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 Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) 
#10166838 - 04/14/09 08:04 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I get to thinking sometimes, the way medicine and technology are progressing we may soon be able to prolong our lives virtually indefinitely. Already, those of us who are still relatively young can expect to live well into old age, and when we get there, things will be easier and more comfortable than any previous generation had it. And there is the chance that medicine will have progressed enough that they'll be able to stop or even reverse the aging process. But then on the other side of that, death is perhaps the greatest mystery in life, and could you really give that up? As far as I'm concerned, there is no question, I want to live as long as I possibly can.
BTW, this thread isn't about overpopulating the earth or anyplace else, just FYI
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: mofo]
#10166861 - 04/14/09 08:07 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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i would if i reached a state of perfect bliss 
otherwise things would likely get boring
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: mofo]
#10166862 - 04/14/09 08:08 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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yes
so i can b a dirty old man forever
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Lorek]
#10166870 - 04/14/09 08:09 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Can't believe you found that picture of Ice.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#10166882 - 04/14/09 08:10 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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hes just expressing his animal nature
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: deff]
#10166924 - 04/14/09 08:17 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I think medicine has fooled you if you think they can support someone indefinately with current technology. If it is possible, it will be with an artificial body, at any rate.
Well my choice is YES to immortal life, and in fact I hope that by the time I am senile I can be involved in projects that create special robotic bodies for people who are ageing so that ppl can have custom bodies with special configurations.
But in the end, brain cancer IS going to kill you
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: deff]
#10166937 - 04/14/09 08:18 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I'm not sure. Kurzweil's idea of a technological singularity which has us refining ourselves via technology seems kind of intruiging, but I dont think I'd sign up for the trial run. If it is a path to immortality as he claims it is ("live long enough to live forever"), then....
I really don't know. It would be hard to resist, but I don't know if I can commit to eternal life.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Noteworthy]
#10167000 - 04/14/09 08:25 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
Noteworthy said:
I think medicine has fooled you if you think they can support someone indefinately with current technology.
I never said I thought current technology could. What I said is that by the time we're 80 or 90, it may well be possible. And I dould it will be by any means we think of as "artificial." One word: Biotechnology. We will have perfect yet completely human bodies.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: mofo]
#10167004 - 04/14/09 08:25 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Yes, absolutely.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Lorek]
#10167037 - 04/14/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
Lorek said:
yes
so i can b a dirty old man forever
ROFL !
I hope you don't turn out to be like this
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: deCypher]
#10167110 - 04/14/09 08:37 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Unfortunately, the mind is in the brain and this cannot be replaced
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Noteworthy]
#10167119 - 04/14/09 08:38 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
Noteworthy said:
Unfortunately, the mind is in the brain and this cannot be replaced
Keep the brain up-to-date and well functioning and the mind will last eternally.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: mofo]
#10167203 - 04/14/09 08:47 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I don't know about forever, but I'd like to be able to extend my life by 100 years at a time, so that every century I can decide whether or not I want to live another century.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: deCypher]
#10167267 - 04/14/09 08:55 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
deCypher said:
Quote:
Noteworthy said:
Unfortunately, the mind is in the brain and this cannot be replaced
Keep the brain up-to-date and well functioning and the mind will last eternally.
yes that would be a wonderful idea.. unfortunately.. this is impossible to do indefinately
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Noteworthy]
#10167277 - 04/14/09 08:56 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Impossible or just improbable?
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Silversoul]
#10167288 - 04/14/09 08:57 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
Silversoul said:
I don't know about forever, but I'd like to be able to extend my life by 100 years at a time, so that every century I can decide whether or not I want to live another century.
yeah, I think I'll take this route as well.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Noteworthy]
#10167290 - 04/14/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Actually I take that back. It is a pretty interesting notion that you could potentially connect two brains with different genetics and over time the consciousness in an old brain might be able to transfer itself naturally across to a young brain
but that other brain would have to lack its own consciousness.. i dunno
i just think immortal life is science fiction. sorta like time travel. Only possible in a weird hypotehtical situation involving technology that we do not yet have
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: Noteworthy]
#10167301 - 04/14/09 08:59 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Mind uploading to a silicon medium is also a viable alternative, or at least extending the longevity of our neurons with supporting nanotechnology.
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: deCypher]
#10167405 - 04/14/09 09:09 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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if this is how you view mind/life... what are we preserving? a simulation program that itself is highly malleable?
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Re: Would you choose to live forever? (or like, a really really long time at least) [Re: deCypher]
#10167450 - 04/14/09 09:14 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
deCypher said:
Mind uploading to a silicon medium is also a viable alternative, or at least extending the longevity of our neurons with supporting nanotechnology.
Yes ive heard this told to me. I can never express how irrational it is to suggest that this is possible with our current understanding of consciousness and the brain. For all we know, consciousness is an unsolvable problem. The only way I forsee consciousness being maintained beyond the lifespan of its original host/subsistence is by using other hosts that are of the type that we already assume to produce consciousness - a human brain and body etc.
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