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AlCapwn
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Human Usefulness test
#10050791 - 03/27/09 01:17 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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It is the year 2030. The world's population has doubled since 2009. Climate change has caused worldwide drought, and food supplies are really low. The world's top scientists design a test to evaluate and rank every single human being on the face of the planet. We are all tested on our potential intelligence, adaptability, potential physical strength and potential fitness/overall health, good genes, creativity, and disposition (good spirited ranking higher than mean spirited) and any other facet of the human being you could deem important. The test has handicaps for those less fortunate (such as people in third world countries) as to not be biased. The humans more useful for optimizing the human race as a whole rank higher, and the more useless rank lower. The ill rank amongst the lowest.
We start by killing off the lowest ranking person, second lowest ranking and so forth. The ones with no transmittable diseases (which would be tested for) are turned into processed meat to feed the starving population.
What attributes would you test for? In what order would you rank these attributes in terms of importance and why? Would you agree with this or be opposed to this? (even if it meant survival) What else could we do? (crops don't grow, animals are much too scarce to feed us all because of low vegetation)
Remember, we have no choice or else we would all starve to death. Go.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050799 - 03/27/09 01:19 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I would just separate myself from modern society, there's no way I'd want to be a part of that.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050806 - 03/27/09 01:22 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Survival isn't pretty, you have just been ranked as wimpy.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050877 - 03/27/09 01:43 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Attempting to survive in the wild isn't wimpy...
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050882 - 03/27/09 01:45 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I would have thought he was being tougher for not being dependent on the regime you have proposed.
I too would be part of the resistance. This scenario would be just another example of humans with good intentions thinking they can do better than natural selection. A vain attempt for one lot of people to cover their own arses by exerting control over another lot of people who they see as not as virtuous.
It would be a safe bet that quite a lot of people would resist that scenario being put in place and as such there would probably be a civil war... and if there's anyone left from that, then they'll probably form groups regardless of rank and file because by that time, the most virtuous thing on people's mind will be survival.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: Mufungo]
#10050901 - 03/27/09 01:52 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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A better thing for humanity would be for the higher ranked people to do all that they can to help and support the lower ranked ones.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050938 - 03/27/09 02:09 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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You can't survive without food. Did you guys even read my posts? It's hypothetical anyways, quit being no fun.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050948 - 03/27/09 02:13 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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There's plenty of food in the wild.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050965 - 03/27/09 02:20 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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You might as well just declare FFA. Quake 3 scenario type of thing.. Thats what it would come to anyway..
It could never happen.. and never will happen..for any reason. If anybody decides to cut down on the population it will be the planet itself. But for the sake of argument.. No. I wouldnt agree to this..
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10050974 - 03/27/09 02:24 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
AlCapwn said: You can't survive without food. Did you guys even read my posts? It's hypothetical anyways, quit being no fun.
Well if there's no food at all, how are any people in your hypothetical scenario going to survive?
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: Mufungo]
#10051006 - 03/27/09 02:33 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Basically, I tried to build this scenario to exclude answers like that, I guess I wasn't specific enough. Just pretend we have no choice, will you? Like, hypothetically the only food we can eat is the humans we kill and we HAVE to, so we might as well kill the worst humans. Quote:
We start by killing off the lowest ranking person, second lowest ranking and so forth. The ones with no transmittable diseases (which would be tested for) are turned into processed meat to feed the starving population.
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Edited by AlCapwn (03/27/09 02:37 AM)
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10051013 - 03/27/09 02:35 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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So processed human meat would be the only source of sustenance? What about farming and ranching?
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: Poid]
#10051022 - 03/27/09 02:38 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Drought. You can't farm or grow anything, therefore you can't feed animals. Think Mad Max.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10051032 - 03/27/09 02:43 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I don't know what Mad Max is, although I've heard of it...
If there was such a severe drought, then how is human meat going to sustain human life?
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: Poid]
#10051083 - 03/27/09 02:56 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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He specifically stated that the point of the thread wasn't to keep subjecting the stipulations of the hypothetical situation to a plausibility test, but to simply answer his questions regarding which traits would be valued and so on. Why don't you shut up with the nonsense?
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I ignored that, and instead added that I wouldn't have anything to do with such a system.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10051728 - 03/27/09 08:09 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
AlCapwn said: It is the year 2030. The world's population has doubled since 2009. Climate change has caused worldwide drought, and food supplies are really low. The world's top scientists design a test to evaluate and rank every single human being on the face of the planet. We are all tested on our potential intelligence, adaptability, potential physical strength and potential fitness/overall health, good genes, creativity, and disposition (good spirited ranking higher than mean spirited) and any other facet of the human being you could deem important. The test has handicaps for those less fortunate (such as people in third world countries) as to not be biased. The humans more useful for optimizing the human race as a whole rank higher, and the more useless rank lower. The ill rank amongst the lowest.
We start by killing off the lowest ranking person, second lowest ranking and so forth. The ones with no transmittable diseases (which would be tested for) are turned into processed meat to feed the starving population.
What attributes would you test for? In what order would you rank these attributes in terms of importance and why? Would you agree with this or be opposed to this? (even if it meant survival) What else could we do? (crops don't grow, animals are much too scarce to feed us all because of low vegetation)
Remember, we have no choice or else we would all starve to death. Go.
I volunteer to die.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: Icelander]
#10051747 - 03/27/09 08:13 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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What? What about death anxiety...
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: Poid]
#10051754 - 03/27/09 08:14 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Still there but would be overridden by that lack of a quality living experience.
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Re: Human Usefulness test [Re: AlCapwn]
#10051787 - 03/27/09 08:20 AM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Nobody wants to play along.
I would probably catagorize the jobs we need done and determine the attributes for that job. Things like: Strength, IQ, Stamina, genetic flaws, family medical history. We would need some pairs that was good for breedin'. We could breed humans for food that are genetically tested for tastiness and nutrition. Hopefully the offspring will not be total losers, then we would be fucked.
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