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increase popcorn colonization speed
    #10038623 - 03/25/09 12:36 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

hey guys.. i've got 3 popcorn jars inoculated about 2 weeks ago.. there is definately mycelium growth but it seems to be incredibly slow.. at this rate i would say that it would take about 3 months to get full mycelium.. any special tricks i could use for popcorn? i checked but didn't really find anything on this. thanks


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: lebrony]
    #10038637 - 03/25/09 12:40 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Do you have foil on the lids?  Pics?

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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: CH HELL]
    #10038667 - 03/25/09 12:48 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

inoculated with MS?

how long ago were first signs of growth?

and like CH asked, do you have anything covering the lids?

what temp are you letting them colonize at?


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: just me]
    #10039002 - 03/25/09 01:53 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

here are some pics.. yes there are lids on them and they are in an incubator at around 78F. growth started being apparent after a week or so.


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: lebrony]
    #10039167 - 03/25/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Not sure but the tin foil might be starving them for air.


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: TaxCollector]
    #10039222 - 03/25/09 02:24 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Popcorn is hard to work with yours looks a little wet,  there is nothing you can do for that now.  If you see growth great take the tin foil off and put a couple of coffee filters over them and you could also cool the temp down some(between 70-75).  Give them some time after that.  Good luck,
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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: CH HELL]
    #10039400 - 03/25/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

78 is ok

i dont see any signs of too wet, i think that first picture is designs on the glass.

did u hydrate them :lol:


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: just me]
    #10039480 - 03/25/09 03:05 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

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78 is ok

i dont see any signs of too wet, i think that first picture is designs on the glass.

did u hydrate them :lol:





  LOL yeah that could be the glass making it appear that way.

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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: CH HELL]
    #10039508 - 03/25/09 03:09 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

What are you using for gas exchange?


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: Captain Caveman]
    #10039607 - 03/25/09 03:21 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

am i tripping or dose it look like you have foil under the lids?

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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: onaga]
    #10039727 - 03/25/09 03:38 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

lol good eye there.


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: Captain Caveman]
    #10039832 - 03/25/09 03:55 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

cause if he dose that's probably the reason its so slow right? no gas exchange

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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: onaga]
    #10039834 - 03/25/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Correct, hence my question above.


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: Captain Caveman]
    #10040030 - 03/25/09 04:17 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

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Correct, hence my question above.



next time just pop that popcorn, and eat it while you prepare your RYE or WBS!:thumbup:


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #10040070 - 03/25/09 04:22 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

I used popcorn a few times, and only stopped because it costs more than wbs.


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: Captain Caveman]
    #10040109 - 03/25/09 04:26 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

seems to colonize the bulk sub its spawned to a lot slower too.

i think this is due to less kernels than wbs or rye grain provide


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: just me]
    #10040225 - 03/25/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

yeah well i actually had NO gas exchange.. what i did was i took off the aluminium foil and put two layers of coffee filters. do you think that will be enough for air to get in ??


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: lebrony]
    #10040349 - 03/25/09 05:02 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

so you just have an innoc hole? If so, THERES your problem.


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: lebrony]
    #10040390 - 03/25/09 05:09 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

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yeah well i actually had NO gas exchange.. what i did was i took off the aluminium foil and put two layers of coffee filters. do you think that will be enough for air to get in ??




Toss those jars. There's no way they are sterile anymore.

FWIW, coffee filters are NOT adequate for keeping contaminates out of your jars. Each hole in a coffee filter is many times larger than the largest contaminant...

Here's how I prepare my lids: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9550279

For a simpler version, just make two holes: one with micropore tape, one with silicone, on both sides. The silicone is for injection, and it is self healing if done right.


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Re: increase popcorn colonization speed [Re: dead]
    #10040544 - 03/25/09 05:33 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

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lebrony said:
yeah well i actually had NO gas exchange.. what i did was i took off the aluminium foil and put two layers of coffee filters. do you think that will be enough for air to get in ??




Toss those jars. There's no way they are sterile anymore.

FWIW, coffee filters are NOT adequate for keeping contaminates out of your jars. Each hole in a coffee filter is many times larger than the largest contaminant...

Here's how I prepare my lids: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9550279

For a simpler version, just make two holes: one with micropore tape, one with silicone, on both sides. The silicone is for injection, and it is self healing if done right.




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