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Right_Away
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Out of body experiences
#10027302 - 03/23/09 03:48 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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What is the ideal substance for aiding in achieving an out of body state? I'm not necessarily talking about spontaneously floating out. There would be meditation involved. Obviously, there are things like dmt and salvia, but its kind of hard to meditate when those come on so strong so fast.
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Coaster
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Right_Away]
#10027314 - 03/23/09 03:49 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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dissociatives r best for this salvia ketamine nitrous dextromethorphan dmt is also good but its a tryptamine
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FreedomForAll
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Coaster]
#10027349 - 03/23/09 03:53 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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Try reading about the Blue Lotus, I heard it can aid in meditation.
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Redrawing
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Right_Away]
#10027373 - 03/23/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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A hint of cannabis sativa with a lot of meditation is best for out of body experiences IME.
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Right_Away
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Redrawing]
#10027392 - 03/23/09 03:58 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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I was considering dxm but it sounds somewhat uncomfortable. Maybe i will just deal with it.
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teeter
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Right_Away]
#10027534 - 03/23/09 04:17 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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go with salvia....its easy to get, short lasting and intense enough to get ur OOB without any trouble
i've gone OOB on a medical dose of nitrous before....it actually wasnt that great (probably because i was 14 and wasn't prepared to benefit from an OOBE)...i just kinda spun in circles for a while and then my vision like flipped over and i saw myself getting my mouth worked on....not really an intense one at all...only cool part was: i was totaly fucking out the whole time, but i could remember exactly what they did/said during the time i was out of my body...
like coaster said, any dissociative will work....OOBE techniques combined with any drug will work....ego death lvl psychedelics will work
dissociatives are best but its possible without drugs, so anything will work
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: teeter]
#10027553 - 03/23/09 04:19 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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I guess I'm gonna recommend DXM. I've done all the popular psychedelics and nothing has made me able to have out of body experiences as easy. What I would do is take like 700mg and put on a brainwave stimulator at I think 6 or 7hz (it's been a while). The states I achieved doing this are amazing and I have not gotten there since my body started rejecting DXM.
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Moo456
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Right_Away]
#10027569 - 03/23/09 04:21 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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Ive heard smoking DMT while on DXM is incredibly intense (I can only imagine it is very out of body). Why havnt I tried it?
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Right_Away
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Moo456]
#10028245 - 03/23/09 05:59 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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Hey thanks for the help everybody. I will probably just stick to my normal methods for now, but I'll definitely try some stuff in the future
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Coaster]
#10028262 - 03/23/09 06:01 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said: dissociatives r best for this salvia ketamine nitrous dextromethorphan dmt is also good but its a tryptamine
Dissociatives are the best for OOBEs
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: jds]
#10028335 - 03/23/09 06:13 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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DXM N2O + Weed Amanita Muscaria High dose Psilocybe
Any combination thereof.
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Abuse
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: deCypher]
#10028443 - 03/23/09 06:26 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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mushrooms, if your lucky
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Elz
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Abuse]
#10028656 - 03/23/09 07:02 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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If you try DXM you should get yourself familiar with it before you dose to an out of body level I think.
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Elz]
#10029206 - 03/23/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 8 days ago) |
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Lol i was actually considering doing DXM for just this reason, however after reading about Olneys Lesions im really not that keen anymore.
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Aopocetx
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Stoi]
#10029337 - 03/23/09 08:50 PM (15 years, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
Stoi said: Lol i was actually considering doing DXM for just this reason, however after reading about Olneys Lesions im really not that keen anymore.
That's a myth (Olney's Lesions).
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satyr
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Aopocetx]
#10029384 - 03/23/09 08:57 PM (15 years, 8 days ago) |
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If your looking for an aid in achieving this state, I would highly recommend any fine grade cannabis and/or hashish. You can also vaporize a low dose of DMT, which I find to work quite well. After I have become more and more conditioned to these states of awareness, a larger spectrum of substances became available for me to use as aids in helping me achieve these states. Tobacco works just fine for helping me achieve trance states, and I can even use alcohol if I try hard enough.
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Moo456
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Stoi]
#10029413 - 03/23/09 09:01 PM (15 years, 8 days ago) |
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What exactly is your fear? That you'll get addicted to DXM and use it so much that get brain lesions?
It's not very addictive and it takes a lot of abuse to cause permanent thinking problems. I dont know how some people get problems from DXM, but they must not have much self discipline.
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Moo456]
#10029559 - 03/23/09 09:21 PM (15 years, 8 days ago) |
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One of my most extreme OOBE experiences was a combo
Amanita Muscaria (14 grams) Cannabis (couple bowls) Psilocybin (5 dry grams cubes lemon tek'd) Nitrous
However
THC Nitrous
or just high dose DXM
Got me there.
I'm sure other substances can, but this is just what from i have experienced subjectively.
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Munkey106
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Dextromethorphan + Marijuana
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Re: Out of body experiences [Re: Munkey106]
#10029834 - 03/23/09 10:03 PM (15 years, 8 days ago) |
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Stick to natural things if u can man - dmt is already produced daily in your brain and is in everything around you- if u make a prepared tea- very good one - it will last for a hour or more - mixed with a good ganja - and with practice - u could begin to travel to all sorts of levels......Pharms have so many side effects - good dmt is sooooo clean - Its meant to be
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