Tea vs. Tea w/lemon
Preamble: Tea is supposed to reduce
nausea, supply a quicker come-up and come-down, also a shorter
overall duration. For all it's speed it's supposed to also hit
harder, giving a more intense trip. Lemon is supposed to intensify
the trip, but I haven't heard any about how it affects on overall
duration. My impression is that it doesn't do anything lengthen or
shorten, and that it doesn't do anything for nausea.
1st Trip level 2
1.7g dry Unknown Cubensis
Tek Overview: Made tea with lemonade as
Tek Detailed: Heat 50/50 water/lemon
aide to boil, pour immediately piping hot over the chopped shrooms in
a cup allowed to steep without added heat. ~10 mins to steep. Strain
mushroom mass out keep tea, set aside. And steep shrooms again, with
fresh hot 50/50 water two more times for a total of three
extractions. Gathered the extractions to a single cup with totaling
roughly 16oz of tea, an easily consumable amount, something to keep
in mind about the quantity of water used for each extraction.
Trip level 2
Setting; living room.
Overview: Quick come up and down, very
mild nausea, practically none. Level 2 experience surpassing
expectations with OEVs; fleeting rivers and stretching. Expected a
body high and barely noticeable OEVs if any things appearing closer
and further etc.
10min: First signs of an altered
state. Mild shroom stoning effect.
30min: Gradual intensifying of the
body feeling, beginning small surges of nausea, err more like a
cramping. Not at all overwhelming, light but present. Surging for a
few min then fading away
45min: approaching peak, OEV's
beginning, body load stable, no further increase in stoning. Nausea
1hr: At peak, no nausea. OEV's object
slowing growing bigger or smaller, slight waving in walls
exaggeration in curves, textured surfaces rolling over like the
surface of water boiling when stared at, textured ceiling flowed like
river when stared at. Lots of day dreaming, thinking about life. Fun
body high like I could twist my nipples forever.
3hrs: Noticing come down, visuals are
3.5hrs: Come down just about complete,
very noticeably its over, some residual body feeling quickly fading.
4hrs: total base line.
2nd trip, two weeks later
3.5g dry Same Unknown Cubensis
Tek: Made tea same way with zero
Setting: Same living room as before.
Overview: More nausea, but never
becoming sever, ending of bouts about the same. Rise and fall
noticeably slower, peak longer lasting. Peak only slightly more
intense in the area of body high and mental trippyness, but no
noticeable increase in OEV intensity at all. Some increase in CEVs,
but too distant overall to explore as a trip.
20min: First sign of an altered state.
30min: Body high more pronounced than
20, nausea more sickly than crampy compared to first time. A little
more intense surges but not much.
45min: Come up noticeably slower,
wondering, nausea bouts intensifying, worst one felt sickly throw up
for a one minute then subside.
1hr: Sensing body load stabilizing,
settling down in the new atmosphere, OEV's just around corner but not
yet. Feels like nausea bouts are done, residual sickly feeling but
gets ignored easily and goes away but seems to return when I think
about being sick.
1.5hr: At peak, nausea is gone. But
peak is same as first time around, disappointed.
2hr: Eating mushroom mass left over
from making tea hoping to get higher up.
2.5: New nausea bouts, just about the
same as when coming up. Each bout seems to intensify the trip.
Suspect the eaten mushrooms taking effect. Peak starting to surpass
1st time in body high, but not visually. Very twisty
nipples. Head space more shroomy, hinting at what lies further in,
spuring the imagination of what kind of none visual phenomenon may
come. CEVs hinting at storied kaleidoscopic depths but to far away to
enter. Thinking about life, wandering thoughts, intended to get up
and do something, got lost thought, remember 'Oh yea I was going to
get that', got lost in thought again never doing it.
4hr: Come down beginning, I got that
thing I was after, distraction not so mesmerizing.
4.5: Come down noticeably slower,
especially in body load, visuals are gone, but I can still
concentrate and find minor depth perception distortions.
5: baseline, a hint of afterglow.
6: completely baseline
This is my first time shrooming ever. I
obtained a quarter oz, but I gave away a half eighth to a friend. In
planning my first trip ever, I ran into two schools of thought, take
an eighth to start %u2013 take half an eighth.
Those that supported a full eighth
argued that any less will lack a visual peak, and ultimately leave
would be shroomer with more lack luster experience, an inaccurate
presentation of what shrooming is about. All the anticipation and
nausea of coming up without the pay off. However, everyone has a
different body chemistry, and the shroom potency is totally unknown;
therefore a half eighth is better idea for the complete noob to gain
a foothold of what lies ahead and the kind of reaction they
personally will have with the shroom. Peak, nausea, self-control,
A third option, emerged. Start with a
half eighth, wait for onset, get there, and then eat the other half
if comfortable. Seemed like a good idea but I had more than just one
eighth, so on further thought I opted not to do that. In some trip
reports, people had done the same thing, spread out the consumption,
but had mindlessly just munched out, eating too much. I didn't want
to do that! What ever I would do, it would be deliberate, having a
variable plan that relies on the decisions of a unknown altered
conscience. Not a good idea, after all I really 'don't know' what to
expect. I have an idea of how horrible of a nightmare a bad trip can
be, and I want avoid it as much possible allaying as many of my
anxieties beforehand as possible, and being as prepared as possible.
Striking a compromise is where tea
comes in. With tea there is a faster come up, more intensity as
faster absorption, and a shorter over all duration to endure if
things go south. Tea has a reputation for reducing nausea. The plan
worked out nicely. On the second trip, I was concerned about the
shroom power being exponential. Two times the weight, five times the
kick. So I decided to not add lemon, so I would rise slower to a more
intense trip. So if it was a little heavier than I expected, I could
get used it better than a shotgun to the face. This plan kind of
backfired, lol. Instead I lost the higher intensity I sought, however
I did gain peak time. I also did get a better look at deeper waters
even if just a teeny look.
There was a lot of people saying the
first trip is the best trip, go big or go home, but I think that
applies to the first real trip. A heroic dose, and it shouldn't be
the very first one. My intent is to work my way up to it, so when it
comes time to jump, I'm combat ready to the gain the most of it.
About adding an acidic something
(orange juice, lemon, grapefruit, whatever)
Clearly, the addition of lemon works to
intensify the trip. I don't think anything was lost in the tea
without lemon, versus chewing without lemon though. But I also think
that if I chewed the shroom and drank orange juice I would have had
nice balance of coming up slow and long, but coming more strong.
Lemon tek tea I think will yield the harder trip over chewing with
orange juice, the hardest trip to be had on a given quantity, but it
is a tradeoff with shorter duration.
About tea reducing nausea
I did eat the rest of the shroom during
both trips, I didn't mention it in the first report because there was
no effect at all. However the second time around eating the shroom
added to the trip making me think that extraction was incomplete.
Also though it added nausea as well, making me think that had I
chewed everything up in the beginning the severity of nausea would
have been worse.
Acidic juices increase the absorption
of the actives. Tea increases the accessibility of the actives but
Lemon tek tea:/// high accessibility and
absorbency. Hardest but fastest peak, less stomach problems
Tea alone://// High accessibility, with normal
absorbency. Normal peak, with less stomach problems
Chewing with addition of orange juice://// Lower accessibility, with high absorbency. Harder but not hardest
trip, longer peak, normal stomach problems.
Chewing alone://// Lower accessibility,
with normal absorbency. Normal peak, longest of all duration, normal
Just guessing :/