Posted by Franklin (06/12/23 12:07 AM)
Still holds up! Cheers
Posted by doc34 (01/28/18 02:09 PM)
OITDATED????? Since 1992 lol
This tech was written in 2004 pal. And I would like to suggest a grow contest. 
1. Using only wbs
2. Time it takes for full colonization of wbs.
3. Spawn to bulk= straw only. Using only the small bales at hobby lobby or a local craft supply usually a 3 lb bale.
4. Time it takes to colonize straw.
5. Case with coir.
6. Time it takes to pin.
7. Total weight. Total time from start to finish.

See if you can pull off a perpetual harvest in 21 days and then harvest once a week there after. I can! Using my tech=Doc's WBS Tech. I will estimate that my first flush will be over a lb dry, then a pound every week thereafter. You all want to down my tech, well I'm going to show what it is actually capable of doing. Coming soon,,,,,
Posted by doc34 (07/29/16 01:33 AM)
ONE MORE THING BEFORE I DISAPPEAR INTO THE MIST AGAIN,,,,,,



THIS TEK HAS BEEN CHANGED BY MODERATORS, ADMINS, AND THEIR PEONS----THEY HAVE ALL ADDED THIS AND THAT TO MY ORIGINAL TEK SO IF YOU FAIL BLAME THEM NOT ME NOR MY TEK.


IF YOU WANT TO GROW POUNDS INSTEAD OF GRAMS SEND ME A PM-----BUT I WARN YOU--I ONLY VISIT THIS SITE OCCASIONALLY SINCE "TC" TAG HAS BEEN INVENTED---IT MAYBE MONTHS BEFORE I ANSWER YOUR MESSAGE BUT I WILL ONLY IN A MESSAGE I WROTE THIS TEK FOR ALL TO SHARE AND THEY HAVE DISTORTED IT , AND CHANGED IT TO SUIT WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST.



I GROW POUNDS UPON POUNDS NOT SINGLE SHROOMS IN 100LBS OF SUBSTRATE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I STAY AWAY FROM THE SHROOMERY--THEY ASKED ME TO WRITE MY TEK. I DID,,,,THEN THEY CAME IN AND CHANGED IT COMPLETELY



SO, UNLESS YOU CONTACT ME DIRECTLY AND I TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU FAIL THEN, AND ONLY THEN, CAN YOU BLAME ME AND MY TEK!



ADIOS AMIGOS 
Posted by doc34 (07/29/16 01:21 AM)
If you cannot follow this tek word for word without adding anything to it or taking anything away from it then DO NOT USE THIS TEK!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/gallery/122179/imgpp/30/folder/Pesa

View all of those pages----everyone of those were grown using this tek. This Tek is proven for over 20 years which is older than most of you. I HAVE NEVER     I REPEAT____I HAVE NEVER IN 20 YEARS EVER HAD A JAR CONTAMINATE BY USING THIS TEK


STOP TRYING TO DISCOURAGE OTHERS FROM SUCCEEDING BY STEERING THEM AWAY FROM A PROVEN METHOD.
I USED THIS SAME TEK TO CREATE MY SPAWN FOR A BLUE OYSTER COMPANY THAT SUPPLIED SEVEN DIFFERENT STORES IN VERMONT FOR FIVE YEARS THREE OF WHICH WERE CHAIN STORES(more than one)I MADE OVER $350.000.00 IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT I RAN THAT COMPANY---I SOLD THAT SAME COMPANY TO MY PARTNER WHO MADE CHANGES AND THAT COMPANY NO LONGER EXISTS



IF YOU CAN'T FOLLOW THE TECHNIQUE THAT I HAVE LAID OUT FOR YOU THEN THIS TEK IS NOT YOUR CUP OF TEA MATES. USE SOMEONE ELSE'S--I KNOW, LETS HAVE A SPELLING CONTEST!
I HATE TO BE A PAIN IN THE ASS BUT DAMN THIS IS ALL COMMON SENSE----COMMON SENSE JUST DO WHAT I DID ITS THAT SIMPLE!





AND ALL YOU HATERS OF THIS TEK----QUIT USING IT!
Posted by doc34 (07/29/16 01:06 AM)
upperfliptown


dont use it! Try to find pure milo, pure millet if you cant find what I use----pure millet is best! but it isn't cheap and you have to watch your simmer times only simmer until 5%-10% of the millet has exploded then remove from heat and drain immediately ---then only let it drain for about 15 minutes maybe 20 you want it wet not dry. The top will seem dry but the bottom will still be soaked. I always smack the colander on the table a few times to remove the water on the bottom. then jar it up and continue with the tek. Good luck






Twisted666

you use it as spawn to straw or poo or straw and poo





filthybill 

use it if it is fully colonised -----When I think my jars are fully colonized I usually wait two days to make sure. if there is any grain that is not colonized throw it out all of it--only use the grain that is colonized



prismism

shake your jars after you inoculate to spread out the spores for a faster colonization---come on people use your head its common sense

sansa
why didn't you write this tek? When your jar is almost fully colonized and you see this small black spot and you think it is a contaminate--you throw out the jar to find out that it was a damn black sunflower seed(FLOATER) you just threw out a perfectly good jar. all of the floaters are going to be the black sunflower seeds Just remove the floaters and have no worries!




UNDEADNINJA2

 Outdated? Again I have been using this exact tek for over 20 years with not one jar contaminated! OUTDATE THAT!VVVVVV-----view theseVVVVVVV
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/gallery/122179/imgpp/30/folder/Pesa
Posted by doc34 (07/29/16 12:42 AM)
I have been using this tek for over 20 years faithfully to the letter. I have yet to have one jar contaminate on me using this tek.  You haters can hate all you want to but if you follow what I wrote 12 years ago exactly the way I wrote it and stop adding this or taking out that and just do it the way i wrote it----you would be growing pounds instead of grams!



Check my grows! all done the exact same way every time!  OUTDATED? YOUR ASS MAYBE! This is still the best tek on this site for newbies getting into grains!


Its all in the photos!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/gallery/122179/imgpp/30/folder/Pesa

Hate all you want but the proof is in the pudding!
Posted by Inocuole (07/25/16 12:44 PM)
Wiping the needle after flaming it is some fail ass shit.
Posted by spearsgary74 (03/04/15 08:18 PM)
One of my most favorite tec's
Posted by freethought (01/18/15 05:25 PM)
I could only manage to get paper coffee filters and they're nowhere near as porous as I assumed. I have tyvek and polyfil already. Do you suggest I still use my paper filters or maybe put an extra layer of polyfil ontop of the jar?
Posted by trippinfloriduh (01/17/15 09:56 AM)
Thanks Doc!!!! I have been using this method since last summer. I have not had 1 contam problem in approx 14 tubs!
Posted by wtfdude (12/28/14 08:36 PM)
loved everything! except how you do the lids.... mostly because of the tyvek on the inside of the jar. why do that instead of putting it on the outside or flipping the the lid the other way as well. not trying to be a dick but i heard bad things about the putting the tyvek on the inside. 
Posted by twisted666 (09/07/14 08:24 AM)
Sorry im a nube ...what do i do after the wbs conlinizes???
Posted by TripNorth (04/11/14 04:13 PM)
Thx Doc!!
Posted by underfliptown (11/21/13 01:29 AM)
I had a question about the WBS, I bought some from petco, it was a cheaper one $30 for a 40lb bag.  But, it seems to be filled with alot of cracked corn pieces as well as some gravel.  Will the cracked corn negatively affect this tek?  There is so much corn that removing it is not an option.  The rest seems like mostly milo.

I wish this question would get answered!
Posted by lonelyjew (10/09/13 08:58 PM)
great tek!
Posted by cement911 (11/18/12 09:59 PM)
instead of poly-fil could i use a new pill 100% polyester filling... is that sterile enough ?
Posted by Kinrex (10/11/12 11:05 PM)
I had a question about the WBS, I bought some from petco, it was a cheaper one $30 for a 40lb bag.  But, it seems to be filled with alot of cracked corn pieces as well as some gravel.  Will the cracked corn negatively affect this tek?  There is so much corn that removing it is not an option.  The rest seems like mostly milo.
Posted by hoynk8 (06/16/12 02:07 AM)
Holy Crap! This Tek is awesome I followed this Tek to a T and I checked today which is day 2 after inoculation and there is significant growth in my jars. The advice that I would give to anyone following this same tek is take time to care about your WBS. I did my first grow and didn't care about the WBS just wanted to throw it in the jars and be done with it. the jars took over a month to colonize and it was a pain in the *** to wait. But this time I decided to take time out of my day and actually do this right. It totally pays off.I bet I will have fully colonized jars by next week at the latest. 
Doc knows what he is talking about! Care for your WBS and take time to treat all of your WBS with care, and it will totally pay off. Thanks Doc I will continue to use this Tek until they create something better. Grow on my fellow Mushkateers
Posted by filthybill (06/05/12 04:30 PM)
I followed this tek last week and innoculated 3 jars one week ago today. I am amazed to see that one of the three jars is FULLY colonized today and the other two are aboubt 3/4 done.

My only question is, should I wait a week with the fully colonized jar as I would with the BRF tek before using it or can it be used right away?

Thanks,

- Philthy
Posted by Blkmrkt223 (05/09/12 06:17 PM)
How far do you stick the syringe in foe innoculation?

Posted by Visschman (03/22/12 01:18 PM)
Thanks for sharing!
Posted by undeadninja2 (01/11/12 09:27 PM)
This is a lil outdated. I would suggest edits based on that information. Also if this is not done I would suggest looking at those parameters.
Posted by cap.n_stem (11/30/11 09:08 AM)

Thanks for sharing this.
Posted by p8npkr (10/25/11 10:12 PM)
i have used this tek 4 times now, each time using 12qt jars to spawn. on my first attempt i had zero problems and saw rapid mycelia growth with zero contams. on  my 2nd, 3rd, & 4th attempts however i have observed little to no colonization with of my jars. can anyone give me some pointers on why this could be happening, what i could be doing wrong, and what i can maybe do to fix this.
Posted by Mr.FunGuy (09/07/11 06:51 PM)
I found that a great way to get those pesky floaters out real quick is to just simply pour the water out of the pot, and the floaters will go with the flow of the water.  So Run your fingers thru it over and over like normal till you get em all, I just keep fillin the pot up and pouring the water out and the floaters just go right out into the wire strainer below :D There's not mention of how to get the floaters out really in this tek, and I'm sure most people do like I did and try to get em out by grabbing em. that takes a long as time, and if you just pour the water out, you can do it in 2 mins instead of 15. Good Luck :D
Posted by wacked4life (07/14/11 11:52 PM)
this was my favorite tek for wbs glad i found it again
Posted by astridethepeak (11/13/10 02:58 PM)
thanks so much
Posted by cigo (05/23/10 06:42 PM)
This is an amazing TEK... i like it, and i'm using it often! ^^
Posted by prismism (12/17/09 09:43 PM)
i would like to add that you should not shake your grain jars right after you inoculate them. wait to shake after the jars have colonized 20 to 30 percent.
Posted by 5HTSynaptrip (12/11/09 09:51 PM)
Good Tek but no polyfil.  Put the metal lid inside then a layer of tyvek over.  After inoc just put a piece of micropore tape over the hole. (this also allows you to not use coffee filters.) Also, using something like a butane lighter would sterilize your needle while alcohol only sanitizes.  
Posted by sansa (11/23/09 10:21 PM)

This tek is great! However there's no need to skim off the floating seed. There's nothing wrong with the floaters. They're just seed that has caught a bit of air within the hull which makes them float. When you soak them for an hour or so, you'll be able to make the floaters sink permanently by tapping them.

You can verify that the floaters are not any less nutritious or hollow in any way by crushing one between two spoons. They have just as much inner material as the sinkers. So you can save yourself a lot of time and not worry about floaters.

Posted by pickboy87 (06/29/09 04:41 PM)
Thank you for the guide. Will be very helpful once I get a PC. I would also like to point out the Coffee Filter is pointelss in this, It won't block out contaminents, and it's just a waste of a good coffee filter :D

To quote RR "Coffee filters are for coffee. Using one as a contaminant barrier would be like trying to use a chain link fence as a mosquito barrier."
Posted by doc34 (09/27/08 06:32 PM)
Smauq said:

"CAUTION:  DO NOT DRILL THE LIDS HOLDING THEM IN YOUR HAND AS SHOWN IN THE PIC! 
While drilling into the lid don't get your finger anywhere near the edge of the lid.  Even if you think the lid is secure."




Yes,
Please place the disc onto a piece of wood so that you can drill through the disc and into the wood---this will prevent the drill bit from grabbing the disc and spinning it. This also makes the holes a lot cleaner and free from burrs.

Even when using the piece of wood as a "backer" for drilling the holes--please be careful--you can still cut yourself if the bit grabs the disc and it does start to spin.


Good luck and safe shroomin!


Doc
Posted by Smaug (09/22/08 12:33 PM)
CAUTION:  DO NOT DRILL THE LIDS HOLDING THEM IN YOUR HAND AS SHOWN IN THE PIC! 

While drilling into the lid don't get your finger anywhere near the edge of the lid.  Even if you think the lid is secure.
Posted by Rammstein (06/14/08 10:49 PM)

Kickazz guide ! Well explained and all those pics were a great help. Thanx for taking the time to do this !
Posted by doc34 (05/03/08 09:57 AM)

Shelley said:

When the spores are ready to fruit, what do you dump them in, and what type of fruiting chamber do you use?   Also, what is the best temp while fruiting?

When the spores are ready to "spawn", (fruit=after the WBS is 100% colonized), you can either dump the spawn into an appropriate container and case it with your favorite casing material, (I use Coco-Coir only for my casings), or spawn them to a bulk substrate like straw/poo and case them with your favorite casing material. As for my fruiting chamber, I use a large plastic bin/container. I place some wet Perlite in the bottom of my bin and set the casings on-top of the Perlite and cover it with the  lid--that's it! When I mist/fan, I just open the lid and wave my hand or a clean piece of paper next to the opening and mist into it-pretty simple.

The best temperature to fruit cubensis mushrooms, that I have found, is @ room temp-yes, just set the bin somewhere it can get some light(in the corner of the room you sleep in works just fine). As long as your room stays at or around 70*F-75*F they will be perfectly OK!

 

 

Doc

 

P.S. Thanks for the Kudo's!

Posted by JoelKl1 (04/13/08 01:36 PM)
Indeed the best WBS tek out there!
Posted by Shelly (02/28/08 07:00 AM)
When the spors are reay to fruit, what do you dump them in, and what type of fruiting chamber do you use?   Also, what is the best temp while fruiting?
Posted by JewelessCaesar (12/12/07 04:06 AM)
This is by far the best and easiest method I have used.. Thanks Doc!!
Posted by Psilocin Dreams (11/05/07 11:38 PM)
This has been a great help to me