Posted by becomingStillness (08/31/23 09:48 AM)
Wonderful post!    I really appreciate your detailed description of your journey and advice for people who have not gone this far with shrooms.   I suspect that I likely live in the same state as you given what you've mentioned.  I am interested in how you located your guide?   I've only had one trip with 2g about 6 weeks ago and it was a level 2 or so but a rich and beautiful experience.   I think a professional guide would be more suitable than my wife (who is kinda anxious and a worrier and I think that energy would potentially mess with my own experience)

I'm a 54 year old with 11 years of meditation practice interested in embarking in cultivation and taking mushrooms as a way of better understanding my nature and mind (especially post-cancer diag last year).   I've had a glimpse of ego death / non-duality completely sober some years back during a meditation retreat and I was left trembling for an hour and a half afterwards trying to let my mind stabilize and process what I had experienced.  It took more hours and discussions with my teacher before I started to feel a return to normal.... loosing the ground of one's existence cannot be understated. 

Thank you!


Posted by WeebleWobble (08/21/23 09:15 AM)
There's a documentary on youtube about ayahausca where someone said that "mother ayahuasca" showed them "infinite bliss".  Infinite seems to be a good way to try to describe what is out there.


Posted by WeebleWobble (08/21/23 09:13 AM)
you seemed to be in a good place before this, so maybe you don't really "need" to keep going.  I suspect that around the 6 month mark after your trip you might start to be more open to going back in.  I don't think it would taint your trip.  Just peel away some more layers of the onion.  
Posted by 027 (08/18/23 08:52 PM)
Thank you, WeebleWobble. You are right. I should not be so quick to dismiss these other types of mystical experiences. But like T. McKenna, I tend to "have nothing but scorn for all weird ideas other than my own."

I am glad to hear you report of similar experiences to this one. I want to reiterate that I believe I was only shown a very small part of "it" - something that my monkey mind could just barely comprehend - and I'm sure there are infinitely more things to see and understand. However, my guide told me that the medicine seems to show people what they need to see at that moment, whether positive or negative, and I accept that. I think I may have needed to see something mystical and ineffable to finally overcome my doubts about it all. I no longer have doubts. It's like seeing Bigfoot - you're either "crazy" or have to deny what you know absolutely to be true.  

Like you, the idea that we keep "coming back" from That Place is also what I felt. I was not shown my previous incarnations, but I got the sense I'd been emerging and reemerging from existence in different ways forever and that I would do so until the end of time. If some long ago Buddhist caught a glimpse of this same thing while tripping on mushrooms, it is no surprise that we now have the concepts of samsara and nirvana. Once you see "it," you realize we are basically stuck on the wheel of existence forever unless and until we are mercifully freed from the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. I feel both helpless and liberated knowing that there is nothing I can do about it (I am not a "believer" - but I respect and accept that others believe they can do something about it in this life - good for them, and in some ways, I envy them).  

I am still unsure whether I will return to the medicine - possibly for fear of not wanting to taint what I felt to be an extraordinary and unique gift. But I very much appreciate your comments. 

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Posted by WeebleWobble (08/18/23 09:43 AM)
Amazingly well written.  I haven't had quite the powerful experience (a few close to it) you have but alot of what you're saying lines up with what I and others have learned.  However, I would caution you to not assume that you learned everything and that's it.  You could do the same dose tomorrow or lower dose and possibly learn more that alters your views.  This has happened to me alot.

I suspect that taking such a high dose (fasting for 2 days made this a high dose) takes you to a place beyond comprehension.  At lower doses you can learn more in some ways.


For example, you laugh at the idea of past lives, ghosts and astral projection yet I believe all are real.  In a recent experience, I learned that we are all reincarnated over and over until we are "cleansed" in a sense and ready for heaven (this is what hindus and buddhist believe although they believe in punishment while I do not).  This was an undeniable message to me.  Yes, we all end up where you were, but we have to learn alot to get there.  Some believe we just return to being that "god" and that's it.  But I did get the message that we continue, although the lines between you and I are no longer.  Bit of a mindfuck....

I was told ghosts are "fragments of human conciousness, no one is left behind".  Meaning ghosts aren't trapped souls, everyone moves on at death but pieces can be left behind.  In the past year I've had astral projection type experiences, usually after sleeping, then meditating, then falling back to sleep.   

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