Posted by
bobi1990
(02/17/20 06:57 AM)
First comment in this forum, I'm still learning to navigate it. Not sure how to look up what the OP username is, sorry about that.
This comment is for the original post.
I don't know how you processed that information after you posted this, but I'm certain it's not very likely what you saw was real. As an atheist myself, I'm obviously inclined to reject what you saw is real. However, think about it this way. You don't think it was a hallucination, yet you were on psychedelic drugs. I think you should draw a line and never cross it, ever. Whatever you do or see on drugs you can't know for sure was real. So it's not real. If those aliens were real, do you think they wouldn't be intelligent enough to understand we can't really trust they're real if we only see them on drugs? Like, maybe they are, but we can't know. So I would stick with sober reality and acknowledge the usefulness of talking to them when you take shrooms. If it helps you, welcome them.
I'm no one to tell you what to believe, but I'm just trying to help by giving my opinion on what I would do in that situation. Maybe it helps. I wouldn't believe they're real, and if they were, they would totally understand we can't trust they are. So if that worries you, don't be. They will understand :)
Edit: I'm seeing this post is around 3 years old. I'm guessing you probably moved on already lol
Edited 2/17/2020 3:01 PM
Posted by
MoonMush
(02/16/18 05:03 PM)
I have been taking heavy doses in the 10g, 13.5( last week), 27g ( Dec 11 2017), a couple 15g sessions, a few lower....... I'm not going to go into the trip reports because, well - they aren't all that special after listening to this stuff. I've never seen entities. I have been given "the power of everything" during the 27grammer - Ive seen all the math and equations behind everything we can matter.........been broken down into a molecule to understand physics on a quantum level.......but Ive never seen entities, not even when Im traveling to other multi-universes. I have a trip buddy that sits next to me if things get too out of hand. HE on the other hand will trip balls off 2.5 grams of the exact same dried stuff. His go to is 3.5g..................He has experienced dark entities in the room but he hasn't visually seen them. He knew they were there. It freaked me out a bit so I left the room.
The 27g dry I took was was B from a trusted vendor, and I've mostly been only nom nomming on APE and PE because of potency issues. I need the strong ones. But yeah 15g Dry of APE is my go too.
The very best trip Ive ever had was on 2 doses of mescaline in College - holy f$@# - the MOST amazing open eyed visuals I've ever had. Talking to squirrels in English.....strobe sky the whole time........ha
Posted by
eleafar
(12/29/17 01:32 AM)
wow. i knew there was something "different" with my fourth trip (usually took 2 gr cubensis, this time i used 4 gr)..... i was looking through fractals and sounds, as usual, just for free experimentation and then all senses went hight pitched, roller coastering into a white space of colors i heard a chirp and there he was: a coloruful mantis being... he noticed me... i open my eyes and continue my trip without interruptions.
well, maybe two months passed by. My oldest son is staying home while he continues his studies, and in a particular night while discussing the mysteries of life, our asumptions, philosophy, etc we decided to shroom together. It was kind of cold, october, we each got 5 gr dry cubensis powdered into warm water. I was coughing ealier, kind of a flu that never really got me. Well, we seat outside in front of our little pool, there you can see a little garden, and then our old fence that allow us to see a little far beyond our neighborg backyard and house. We decided to meditate (we both practice zen meditation) and in less than 40 min i was feeling very intense an uneasy, too much sensations, telling me myself "this wont last an eternity", "when is this coming down" and then i noticed the horrible sound of the pool pump, the horrible cold in my legs, the vertigo...and then i say to myself "why are you suffering?" and then i saw my flu...sucking me the chest... like an uncomfortable tentacle. Once i saw that this "colony" of flu organism, deserved to exist, i understood it, and allow it to live in me, as a symbotic, so i can learn in the body a minimal little lesson. Meanwhile i can heard my son next to me telling me: "dad, im having a satori" "lightTTT" "tell...you....tomorrow".
And then i open my eyes towards the sky... and my son is doing the same... in syncronicity. i can almost read his mind (i know sounds crazy, but we are here in the same page).... and i saw like a huge hellicopter passing by on top of hour house...with at least 12 green light s at the bottom (we saw him coming towards our visual camp and it flew on top of our heads.) A little tiny tail with a bunch of white lights and a couple of red lights. I said to my son "what kind of helicopter is that", he replied "dad, thats a fricking drone or something...do you see its noiseless"....i look at my phone and we are only 1 hour and a hald inside the trip, and it felts like we went into alert mode, the trip stopped its lights, colors, sounds,,,, i felt like it was already thinning. And then there it was the "helicopter" making a huge wide turn around hour house again.... im trying to observe it, and i notice its a foggy material, like a translucid dark glass...with a bunch of lights..... and i made second turn around hour house...even lower passin into two big ponderosa pines we have ( mayve 50 to 60 feet tall)...and my son weave his arms like saying hi (he believe at this point it was some weird modern device).... well the ship (now i know it was at least 50 feet long ..i had the trees for comparison) reduced speed and turns on its side completely... my son got scared, he tells me "dad, this is a ship..lets go inside fast".... and we heard like three sounds very close to our fence, like air puffing...pufff...pufff...puffff.... more like a little air puffing explosion. At this moment my son is walking very fast inside the house, and im more curious trying to look towards the fence, and i can only see like three big insects? three big corn plants? it doesnt make sense to me, and i went inside the house.
We seat very alert, he was so scared i needed to tell him firmly but soft "ok. calm down, right now". And we both see the green lights passing through and then leaving.
We started making sense of what we saw: while i saw a cristaline, foggy dark material, he saw a complete physical metal structure. we both agree on the shape. like a long rectangular shape on the base, but rounded cigar flat on the side. I ask him what was he feeling before, he said he had a feeling of extasis, all senses in one, love,,, and his forefront was pulsating and then he felt like he was sending a stream of energy outside his head...then when he open his eyes, the ship was there. So our minds were emitting a signal, we accord. And we were making questions, and then we start having super smart answers, for two more hours, eveyrhing was fitting into our intelectual cosmogony, we make sense of the physical realm, and how its just an appereance of something else. We compered ourselves with animals, we talked about the creation myths and how they seem to have huge thruts with the language and understanding of the past mankind. we were living a world of preparation for the new species we are becoming. some of us stay in this present larval state, and some go beyond our second nature. and our minds and experiences are a system, a net, not a being but yes an organ. and wel.... we stopped talking. .....I said to my son "are we reasoning all this? it feel like a thruthfull whisper on my brains ears".
Then i felt someone poke me in the mouth while i was talking. I even taste it wet, salty... and i asked to myself "are they here? did they just touch me?"... am i still tripping? hey... are we still tripping? my son says i thing we are tripping in a different way.
Then my son a I agree the visitors left the room. And we went back into fractals, sounds, internal visions. An there i saw one clearly: a mantis being with long humanoid fingers but retractil arms, inofensive, curios, leaving that part of our mind that allowed him to interact. Then i gooled "mantis beings and shrooms"....and i ended up in this thread.
Posted by
Oneironeer
(12/27/17 11:21 AM)
I can certainly attest to the sense of other, and unfortunately for me, coming from a pretty fundamentalist background, despite having done a fair amount of reprograming and meta-work, when *I* first felt slapped by seemingly outward information, I was left in abject horror. Not only weren't they friendly visuals, but the entity seems to be taking a slightly Luciferian/Snake/Yaga/Leviathan appearance for me, and let me tell you, it isn't a kind teacher. I don't mind getting my ass handed to me if I learn something, but I'd eventually like to see the heavenly side of these visions too, lol. Your trip sounds like a nice star to guide my own future intentions, and second attempt.
Posted by
Micromicology
(11/01/17 10:48 PM)
I absolutely had an experience similar to that. I took a large dose of morning glories and went to a secluded stream. The sky ripped open and the maker of the universe spoke to me. I've never felt so much love in my life. Everything I had previously known was ripped away and I was alone with Him surrounded by his love and peace. It changed my entire view of the world and afterlife and helped me get into a much better place in my life. Everyone should be able to experience such a thing. Try it Xanthasoma, you will not regret it if you are in a good mindset and in a good setting.
Posted by
Xanthasoma
(11/01/17 08:34 PM)
Have not yet dared such a heroic dose that you accomplished..so congratulations on that willpower and connection :)
But That was an inspiring read. I have had moments of a presence to which I wasn't alone, but again I only ever topped at 4G's with some MAOI on a 12 hour fast. The most outwardly deity experience was on LSD, then ate 3g Psilocybin mid trek on L, and then Pharmahuasca at the peak of the trip and well... I won't spoil that quest..but I saw the universe's beating heart.... and it was just one universe in the infinite cosmos haha..I never felt more dead and alive at once, the complete deconstruction of myself and rebuilt. That changed my life so much since remarkable after that experience I didn't have hate in me anymore, or loathing pain (parent suicide and rough teen years) it allowed me to blossom into an entire fuller version of who I think I was supposed to be. It was that moment I stopped doing those "psychedelics" for "party" recreational used and decided to full fledged dive into an appreciation and study of the material world and cultural ties to plants (ethnobotany) And did a lot of self reflection and understanding myself and what I 'thought" of the world before I dare tried again. And that was when I believe I was touched and called upon by the spirit molecule :)
The only other time I ever had a presence so strong was on just DMT. And was years after my adolescent years. I was shown things I still don't have language for. I agree though that the mushroom is so symbolic..sacred and shamanic. I wish I can give your post a 100/5 stars!
Posted by
kaamos
(11/01/17 04:57 PM)
They are amazing, there's ancient consciences under our noses and our ego, our pride doesnt allow see them, understand or even comunicate with them, before shrooms i was pretty agnostic, if any wasnt on a science magazine it wasnt valid. Still they think that our specie has its merits, they admire that we are so small, so confused, so violent, but still we have been able to see the stars born amd die since our cosmic dot place in the universe.
Edited 11/1/2017 5:58 PM