Posted by Chk (10/11/17 12:05 PM)
For the OP : just stop taking psychedelics, or go take 6-8 gr mushrooms, maybe the ensuing nuclear explosion will be enough to clear your mind, farewell.
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Posted by Chk (10/11/17 12:03 PM)
Rofl, set and settings someone? ;)
Posted by Mike O Voidenski (10/09/17 10:36 PM)
I have put quite a bit of thought into this sort of thing as I do with most things. My thoughts are that it is a situation unattached to God or a creator or whatever title you wish to use to describe an organized divine effort in the universe. I was raised in a strict Christian home. I believe in something but I no longer associate with any organized religions. They are things of man. I have had visuals of the ALF as I like to call them on smoked nnDMT, cubensi, ps cyan, and even in that half awake state just before loosing conciousness. I believe when it comes to a religious point of view that they are the left over stuff that didn't make it into the physical realm of our universe. They are us, or the stuff that we were before we developed the ability to advance into a physical form. That doesn't make them any more good or bad than the rest of humanity. If my scenario is correct then it is likely there is a bit of jealousy and anamocity.

I had an experience once where I was attacked. I believe it was an attempted hijacking of my body. I was on 2cb and had been taking real small rips of DMT for probably two or three hours. After a while I thought about wrapping my evening up with taking a few really big blasts. These ALF showed up, they came in through the door. They came up to me and got out a pair of glasses and placed them on my face. It is the only time I have ever felt an ALF touch me. I began to see the birth of galaxies and the creation of the universe. It was of the most beautiful things I have ever witnessed. But there was this dark stuff too that looked a little bit like black mold. There was just a little bit of it scattered here and there but then it grew and a little bit of it got on me and then it went into me. I started to feel nervous. I started to get super high. I started wondering how well my cognitive function was working so I started telling myself things like my phone number and address. I went into the bathroom and our bathroom floor was tiled with a rose pattern. The roses were rotting and dieing, then reappearing as a healthy rose just to wilt again. I started to get scared. I started to pray to God to help me and as soon as I said the name Jesus Christ the ALF all vanished and everything started to calm down. I laid down on the couch. I was still pretty high but things were calm and the ALF were gone. My visuals died way back also. I realized I was not alone. I realized there was another ALF with me but that I could not see it. Somehow telepathically the ALF started to grow close enough to me that I was able to understand what this new ALF looked like. It looked like a stone statue. It looked like some Sumerian figures I have seen images of. It had a long beard with tight curls and wings. It told me that it was my guardian angle. After that I was unable to smoke DMT without experiencing a lot of anxiety. This was back in 02. 

I think the ALF often have varying motives but that doesn't make them bad. I think they are smart enough at least to know that they need to be good sometimes, at least good enough to get the things they want.

I had another experience w the ALF where I spoke the name Jesus Christ and again they vanished. I filled a tea ball with ps cyan powder and steeped in my coffee. About peak thirty I decided to get out the book of revelations to see if I would notice any verse or something of that nature. Truthfully looking back I think it was silly and do not think communing with the ALF will help you be closer to God. If there is a God, God doesn't need to use the ALF for anything. When I was done reading I said a prayer and upon speaking Jesus Chrisy I found that my ALF company was gone. To tell you the truth I was a little bummed out. I had hoped to kick it with the ALF for much longer.

My thoughts on whatever God is:
God likely is a multi sexed being or the combination of forces required to impregnate and birth the universe
There is likely God, gods, angels, possibly other worker spirits, spirit energies that are post this life, us, a whole universe full of intelligent life forms similar to us, spirit energies that are waiting to enter this life, and the ALF (alien life forms) who fucked up and didn't make it into our realm.

I prefer to keep ideas about this stuff very general though. It makes it easier to talk about to a wider group.
I think that whatever God is, we are. Just as every spring leads to a river that leads to a sea. God is at the other end of the same body of water that flows through our veins.
Posted by elfstone (10/08/17 07:28 PM)
The Judeo/Christian mythos is too narrow minded to wrap itself around the living mystery of the sacred plants.  Cast your glance back further to the older Mystery of the Greek philosophical tradition to fathom the opening in the psyche induced by the sacred plants.  The limited categories afforded by the Heaven/Hell Skinner box of reward and punishment characteristic of authoritarian fear-based xtian fundamentalism, just ain%u2019t gonna do the job.  If that is what psychedelics are doing to you, by all means, set them aside, as they are definitely not for you.  The conditioning has penetrated too deep.
Posted by KewinaFreeWorld (10/03/17 09:01 PM)
As a Christian myself this is a very thought provoking perspective. I will continue exploring for now but will keep this in mind.
Posted by SleepyE (10/02/17 06:48 AM)
i think you are projecting your own fear and paranoia onto these entities.

i have not experienced what you have described, quiet the opposite.
I have a clear direction after experiences these entities because im an artist trying to depict my DMT experiences.
i would have no art without experiencing it, so therefore it has been a positive encounter for me and they have given me a purpose.

good luck either way ...

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