Posted by AlexandrSupertramp (11/17/11 07:49 PM)
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Posted by trippyhippyninja88 (02/08/11 10:43 PM)
Idk if you have gotten this issue taken care of but i think you and i may have experienced the same thing (though with two completely different substances)
back in october of this last year a few friends and i took this girl i was interested in at the time out to trip her out on a dose and a half for her first time.  Though previous to the experience she had told me that she didn't want to know anything about the substance and just wanted to try it (seeing as i had talked about my many experiences during the festival season that summer before)
as the come up happened for some reason i had thought i had done something horrible to this girl and turned my trip bad, not to bad as i was able to pull myself out of it but the first half was just god awful.
Ever sense i've suffered from HPPD, i read up on here that when i trip gets to bad it can imprint onto your mind *shrugs* it's not all that bad though i wouldn't wish a bad trip on my worst enemy. 
turned out she had a wonderful time but since then like i said above, HPPD, and also me still feeling uncertain about that night as a whole.
i remember my first time with penis envys.......jesus i thought i was in another realm altogether, and i'm sure i only had a half an eighth and only remember maybe one or two key points from that trip as a whole.
It may just be while watch ESoaSM (amazing movie) since it was her first time it took her on an experience like described within the movie, losing your memories and having them deleted as DMT is a main chemical not only in mushrooms but within ourselfs causing us to dream. I'm sure she had a wonderful time........but Penis envys pack a punch, no nice come up or anything of that sort just BLAM straight into the trip.
but thats just a theory, my advice is to take some time and give yourself a nice trip, nothing to intense but something to just release yourself from the last one.
unless it's been resolved and you are feeling less depressed and such, and if that is the case congrats on your recovery.
hope this has helped in some way or form
happy journeying through the psychedelic highways.
any questions feel free to message me
Posted by spitfiremmc (05/24/10 09:17 PM)

i think i can help you my firend same thing happened to me after a bad trip if i was you i would get some ectasy and roll with her to get rid of your fears
Posted by om mani padme hum (03/25/10 07:29 PM)
I ate some grateful dead  blotter one night about a year ago  it was only my second trip and i wasnt expecting much but it turned out the opposite. I was excited very excited  and my mom was mad at me for some stupid reason i cant remember now  but that didnt affect me at all. i waited for my mom to go to bed and decided to take one hit  (not much) i underestimated it   i waited about an hour terrified that my mom was walking around upstairs and going to come down and find me in the state i was in.  i think the worry made me trip harder than i have ever and ive tripped a lot in the past year . i put on fear and loathing in las vegas  and kinda drifted off into my trip forgetting all about the movie  i watched a spot on my shorts turn into a frog and jump across my leg and i was thinking  telling it to jump over the strings on my shorts but it wouldnt so i got mad  and turned to the movie and couldnt focus on it and suddenly was terrified again of my mother coming downstairs. i was caught up in so many thoughts i was having auditory hallucinations of footsteps coming down my noisy stairs. thinking my mom was coming i snapped back into reality and watched the movie  as soon as i was focused on it  johny depp  said  something like did i say that outloud  and i freaked out to the point where i thought i was thinking outloud and i shut the movie off and somehow managed to fall asleep.  i woke up the next day and i was fine just  having a little anxiety.  i didnt know much about cid then and figure it was just a fun trip  or normal  so i dropped again the next day but i didnt freak out i just had a good time because of my tolerance built up from the night before.  i figured it wasnt bad until a couple months later when i realized how bad my anxiety actually was  and it was getting worse still is .  I have anxiety attacks all day and all night  and most are because of that thought stuck in my head of thinking outloud  its unbearable  it got to the point of suicide twice and  now i cant really even talk to people  .  i could say it is becoming less of a problem  through meditation and other better trips   and asking people alot if i said something thinking they could have heard me thinking haha .  im still stuck in different states due to other trips but most are positive  probably because my mom is cool with me tripping now and i am more comfortable tripping  around people and by myself .   i think it was dirty acid mixed with my setting  and mood .  just dont underestimate psychs  and your problem will go away with time and realization.  i beleive a good clean trip  snaped me out of that  most of the way  and alot of meditation . i still have days that are horrible but i  usually can ease the anxiety or take some benzos .   this may not make any sense but i thought id let you know youre not alone and  from experience  you will grow  mentally from it as long as it may take to slow don or go away.  
Posted by duffzilla (02/10/10 09:01 PM)
I think you were just tripping and saw something that freaked you out.
Happy thoughts are key.
Posted by johnny love (01/09/10 03:30 AM)
With any sacred substance, it should be taken in a grateful manner.  The set and setting should be checked.  The state of your mind should be checked.  If you don't know how to do that or do not have an awareness of yourself... think twice (or thrice) before "popping the filter"; dilating that spirit-stream.  The mushrooms (manna) show you what you need to.  They are very revealing.  Obviously, they revealed to you the fear of the unknown.  There really is nothing to fear except fear itself.  Now, wilts on a trip things are heightened, to say the least.  Things can become 10-fold as you experience those vibrations that are usually dulled down in your "normal" day to day experience of life.  We are very grounded (in a sense) beings.  To lift the veil of existence so quickly can open one up to channels that they are not prepared for. 

You suffered trauma.  You were vulnerable and very open to many forces.  It seemed like your friend (the girl with the rolling eyes) was unprepared and, for the lack of a better term, spiritually weak.  She was easily overtaken by... well, what exactly- I can only speculate was some sort of force, which was either an aspect of her psyche or some entity that entered her body.  However, she is the primary channel for that body and the "possession" incident could not fully stick.  Doors can be opened.  You paradigms have been broken.  It can be harmful if one is not ready for ego-loss.  Things will return to normal.  Healing is what is needed.  You must learn some meditation and breathing excercises.  Reassure yourself that you are a strong and powerful being.  Remember, we fear the fear.  You were afraid she was suffering, lost to insanity and never to return.  Don't get stuck on anything definite.  You may have also feared, and I can only speculate, that she could be facing death.  This may have been one of the layers that, whether you are aware of it or not, your subconscious (on some level) was facing.  It was an ego-reaction.  Not everyone realizes they are infinite beings and endowed with the power of a god.  LoL, not to cause a complex.   But we are creators... creators of our reality.  You created yours- fully.  You did not realize at this moment that you have a WARRIOR SPIRIT and were not doing anyone any good by reacting.  Pay attention to your reactions.  Consciously focus on making actions instead of reacting to your thoughts, desires, the words people say, etc.  Even if you find yourself with the ability to feel what another person is feeling ten-fold, you should have the ability, if you are at that level, to be okay with that as if it were the norm.  Otherwise, you should not be at that level or opening up those doors of perception... letting in that wind can be damaging, as you have found out.  

"This too shall pass" is one of my favorite quotes that help me in many situations in life.   If you find yourself in a "bad" trip in life whisper these words.  I use an affrimation "I relinquish controll to my higher-self."  It's amazing how powerful intention mixed with a few affirming words can be.  You are a powerful being.  Never forget.  I wouldn't take on a perscription drug.  It will not heal you, which is what is needed.  Xanax is just a mask.  It will imbalance your body, dull the mind and your emotions.  This is not what you want.  Talking can be great.  But know that there was no harm done.  Really, if you look at it... all is okay except your inability to be OKAY with what happened.  Find the source of your fear.  Face it when you feel ready.  Don't push it into the recesses of your mind.  Don't distract yourself from it.  It will re-surface.  Deal with it now.  Bring forth your warrior-spirit!!  Call if forth.  Focus, focus, focus... build the power of your focus through meditation.  When in doubt and anxiety arises simply BREATH.  Focus on breath, or the rising and falling of your lungs... focus on your heartbeat.  The idea is to be single-pointed in focus.  This will help burn away those energies that are blocked within.  Embrace those thoughts, that fear and transmute it with love.  It will just return if you don't deal with it.   

I hope at least some part of this is of use to you.  I believe you will do great.  Know that no harm can befall you unless you let it.  You decide whether you let those forces control you or not.  Build that mind like a warrior.  : )

If you decide to trip in the future prepare with a few touchstones- thoughts that bring you great joy and happiness; that invoke grand feelings of love!!  It can be a mental focus on a picture of your mother.  Or an positive influential friend; or a spiritual teacher, etc.  Everything in the universe is vibration!  Ever heard the term "nasty vibrations"?  I believe you felt them for sure... like that day with your friend.  What is fear?  It is a vibration that overtook your natural vibration of love.  These vibrations are powerful and affective.  You will find that they, too, will help in many depressing/life-downing moments.   

Haha, I'm sure that's more than enough for now.  Namaste.

May you be filled with health, happiness, and love!!!
Posted by DreamsofPeace89 (12/11/09 04:30 PM)
It may not be a bad idea to talk with a counselor too, if you feel so poorly. They can't rat you out for eating them, and I'm sure they could try to help you relax and cope with the experience. You're not alone, and I hope the best for you
Posted by Enlightenedwon (11/28/09 04:09 AM)

What you're experiencing is post traumatic stress disorder, meaning that the experience was so real and terrifying that it has left an imprint in your psyche.  That experience is now a part of who you are, as it is something you did (cannot be changed), however you can meditate on the experience and try to see that you can move forward with life.  Psychoactives are called that because they are psycho(logically)-activated, everything we sense before and during our trips will affect the way our trip turns out, and because our senses are all so heightened...you seeing your friend like that was very shocking to your fragile state and you "tripped out".  It is totally normal to feel these reverberations after such a traumatizing experience, your friend was obviously not her egotistical self.  Your flashbacks will fade with time, if it is truly controlling your life perhaps a doctor can prescribe some xanex to help with the anxiety...the opposite of what weed will do (in the future you should be able to enjoy the sweet ganja again after you are healed).  You have learned a valuable lesson about dosing different things and introducing people to things you're not very experienced with yourself, you have to be very careful as nature can be very humbling.  If you do decide to experiment in the future make sure that you chose your setting very carefully, if you are the most experienced person in a circle it is your duty to be a guide to lesser experienced, and when taking unknown medicines start out with small amounts, and gauge the effects before taking more, buy some Milk Thistle from the pharmacy it is an antidote for mushrooms if someone has taken too much. 
Posted by Mathanphetamine (11/14/09 07:05 AM)

I think i can help if you still need it, look the truth is shrooms and other psychedelics takes yuu 2 a place beond most peoples comprehensive abiltys.
Like another person Mentioned in the coments. She may have beed possesed that is a very real possibility, but that is nothing to be afraid of in most cases.

Not to insoult yuu or her but some people are just not ready 2 experince the other side or where every the place it takes us to actuly is.
When yur just starting out yuu should take it slow and work on the spiritule side of things so you know more about your self and about where your going, Ofcorse after enjoy yourself with m8s but only when you and your mind is ready. When shrooms and other psychedelics are used properly itl change your life forever in an extremly positive way. Theres a quote that explanes the transfermation perfectly, it and much more extremly valuble infomation can b found on: http://www.magicreports.com/

"The man who comes back through the door in the wall will never be quite the same as the man who went out. He will be wiser but less cocksure, happier but less self-satisfied, humbler in acknowledging his ignorance yet better equipped to understand the relationship of words to things, of systematic reasoning to the unfathomable mestery wich it tries, forever vainly, to comprehend."

Aldous Huxley "The doors of perception"


If you want to lern how to heal yourself Mentaly and spirituly, I can send you a manual useing psychedelics for spiritul resons(Just email me on Mattyboi69_lol@hotmail.com letting me know that itz you ).  Youl be more then Back to your Gunja smoking relaxed Lifestyle by the end of it all( Im just the same haha a bong a-day keeps the drama away ).
Tho only you will know what exactly needs to be done internaly. I wish you the best in this, and hope you havent given up on the power full, exciting  but healing world of psychedelics. 

Also you should readd this report it will help explane a more about your friend being possesed as to say, Its long but worth it.
http://www.shroomery.org/10705/The-Spirit-Network-and-The-Spiral-Gateways

-Yours Truly Matt

Edited 11/15/2009 0:09 AM
Posted by newtimer_nick (11/04/09 01:41 AM)
when i have studied these i have found that they act as if opening files in your head. u may have seen something or dreamed something close to this but in this world it played out in with your friends. it is scary yes but you need to understand what takes place in that diffrent reality is nothing like the real world. you can NEVER underestimate magic mushrooms. i know of a man from canada who went insane because of a vision he had and wouldnt let it go. these visions in your mind are played in your eyes. you should seek thearepy even iif you dont want it. it could help or do as my friend did (he didnt have such a bad trip but he did see some minor bad things) he took more. the more you are in this world the more u understand it. also if your planning on taking shrooms dont think of anything bad or watch anything unreal. its horribly scary being played out in you mind.
Posted by gfest (10/30/09 10:28 PM)

last year my school instituted a random drug testing policy, inwhich i had to stop smoking weed. Me and my friends found an answer to our bordem and that answer was shrooms. I had 4 (every weekend for a month) full fledged trip involving atleast an eigth. Although i never bugged like your friend, i did turn to my family during every trip and found myself at one point or another crying about my life. But in regards to your fear of the dark... i don't know what you see or feel now when you are alone, but i constantly see shadows and almost dark pulsations on cielings and all around me when i'm not preocupied with my television on. I remember the day i bought my first bag of boomers... the guy said it would change my life. I obviously took advantage but i think i can relate to your darkness fear... its been over 6months since my last trip and i have noticeably improved, i know i'm not an expert on the topic, but my thought is that it takes time to cleanse your brain after a trip from all illusions and odd expiernces. Good luck man and haha i feel bad about what you expiernced with your friend, i was buggin just reading the story.
Posted by shroomer33 (10/28/09 03:28 AM)

She may of actually had something in her.  I have tripped and opened doors.  Things came in and took over.  It happens.  Voices came out of my mouth that weren't mine.  Yes, I was possessed.  You said you started to think about God.  I think you were on the right track.  Thinking about all things Biblical makes the bad stuff go away...usually.  At least for me.
Posted by MHbound (10/24/09 10:00 AM)
Its just going to take time...You'll get over it.

Facing your fear, yes I mean tripping again, not yet but when you feel you are strong enough on a low dose is something I have always recommended to people who have had bad trips like yours. Most come out feeling 1000 times better since they have conquered something that had been controlling their lives.
Posted by agent_wonderbread (10/24/09 07:05 AM)
This is why they say do your research and be a good place when you trip. I think when they say that these type of things can cause psychosis in some ppl, they aren't kidding and this proves it to be true. I mean look at you.
Some ppl can handle these type of drugs. Some ppl can't and you're obviously one of the latter. Just look at this as a wake up call that you are not better than the drug. You just weren't ready and niether was your friend.  Next time, trip with your mom.....I'm not kidding. You'll wind up feeling closer than you ever did before.

Edited 10/24/2009 6:22 AM
Posted by bootedboy (10/22/09 08:45 AM)

You just learned a fundamental lesson from shrooms, tripping is not suppossed to be fun; often times the result of ingesting mushrooms does lead to a very pleasant experience but this is not the goal of taking mushrooms in my opinion. Shrooms teach you about life and yourself, don't try and over analyze the experience you had because most likely you only understand the happenings deep within your subconscious or your spirit or essence so to speak. The mushrooms taught you what you needed to know and it just turned out to be a harsh reality. You are taking good steps towards eliminating your mental block by first realizing that you have one. You seem to be sane so you can rationalize to help smooth out your problem. Just relax and try some breathing exercises, don't look to deep into what happened, just know that you now have the strength to rise above it all. There is no sunshine without rain!!!
Posted by BoomerMan420 (10/21/09 05:54 PM)

Just chill out I have had some really wierd trips that was scary but it's better know I smoke weed everyday so weed has always been my grounding I never had a fear to smoke weed again because it's so normal but just ask why and how and make it better. Once me J and D did shrooms at my house I did a half they did a full so it;s going good laughin morphin you know normal shit then we start listenin' to music 2pac then I look over and my friend is crying shirts wet and shaking a lil J did not what to do he seen D and looked back at me as if he did not what the fuck to do so I got him up and we go outside start checking out the trees and plants and what not and then it got better no more crying I never got to talk to him about what he was thinking tho. My trips are usually great but it seems the comedown hates me
Posted by cashus (10/21/09 05:37 PM)
thats happened to me before i went to go watch quaratine the movie taht lady i think her name was miss esperanza she scared me so bad in teh movie that i had to leave half way in teh  movie becuase i could not handel the pressure for liek 3 weeks i had truoble sleeping becasue she would scare the fuck out of me but i just slowley forgot about it it does pop up here and tehre but i just think wow that wasnt really scary and i just talk about it


dont worry just look at ur friend she was tripping ball but now shes liek so
Posted by SamBeezy (10/21/09 05:29 PM)

its not just that her eyes rolled in the back of her head, she was shaking, and when she woke up from it she had no idea what was happening and would look at me with scary deep eyes like somethin was inside of her. and at one point she went to the bathroom, and when she came out she looked like she had just seen a ghost and was just staring at all of us.. she couldnt keep a converstation more than 30 seconds without stopping and saying wait, what just happened where are we? and when she would look away her eyes would go in circles round and round and i couldnt look at her. i guess its the look in her eyes that i see everytime i close mine that terrifies me all over again. you are right, i just need to come to terms with it and move on. and i agree, i just dont know how to make these images go away when im alone in the dark trying to go to sleep.
Posted by Tripl3D (10/21/09 05:18 PM)
First of all, what exactly is it that you are afraid of? Is that there might actually be the possibility that she was possessed by a spirit or something?

What I would like to point you to here, if I may, is the fear of the unknown. The bottom line for your trip here is that it seems to be an unknown, specifically what happened to your friend Molly. Maybe talk with her about it. As a fear, the only advice I can give is to step outside and ask why you are afraid. It's showing you something and obviously it affected you very profoundly. But why? Why are eyes rolling into the back of one's head scary to see? I don't find that scary. Weird, sure, and very unusual, but what does it mean? Anything?

During my last mushroom trip I was lying in a dark room with my eyes closed and having an ongoing series of visual and auditory hallucinations in my mind. At one point, I was confronted with a male presence who HISSED at me. It shook me for a moment, but I didn't get scared because I just didn't know what was going on. As it was an unknown, I didn't immediately react in a fearful way, I was just curious. Again, it was weird and kinda in my face, but I didn't know, and so didn't react in fear. I could have, and I could see how anyone could. But why?

Take hold of your confidence in what you do know. And maybe just shrug off what you don't. Perhaps that is easier said than done when you are feeling afraid, but it is your conscious choice to step outside of that and ask yourself why.