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Shamanintraining said:
No/No/Yes.  I'm a cynical man.

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psilyguy said:
Obama drops 'war on drugs' rhetoric for needle exchanges

i voted yes, yes, no

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Silversoul said:
My fear is that even if Obama respects California's decision, the DEA might not.

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Skunk420 said:
yea whatever!

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Skunk420 said:
Obama has no control over the DEA, god what the fuck are you talking about? The DEA does what they want to.

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SonicKuz said:
Keep in mind the DEA is a large group of people that cannot survive without a steady supply of potheads to bust. Why would they give that up?

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Silversoul said:
My fear is that even if Obama respects California's decision, the DEA might not.

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JesusYodiHomeboy said:
They could at least decriminalize it...

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They could at least decriminalize it...

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California already decriminalized it years ago, as have several other states.

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JesusYodiHomeboy said:
They could at least decriminalize it...

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Guess my post was in regards to an expanded region outside of just Cali. I think its cool that certain places aren't trippin out about it as hard as before, but they're still pretty damn hard on the lil dudes just tryin to smoke their mary, play their acoustic guitars, and love on their purrty little girlfriends. whatssafussabout

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marijuana addicts are violent criminals who are always on the lookout for rape victims

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Rebirtha said:
If it doesn't pass through the legislative process I think Californian's should start a proposition and leave the voting up to the people. Recent studies have shown 60% of west coast people favor legalization of marijuana. It got very close when Nevada took the vote and worked in Denver to legalize marijuana. It would take 75,000 legitimate signatures to create a proposition in California for legalization and taxing of marijuana. Seems like a lot of people but with good networking and through organizations like NORML and SAFER it is definitely a reasonable goal. College campuses are a good start for signatures, if NORML puts the call out there like they are with Ammiano's bill, we could see this happen next November. If Ammiano's bill gets shot down this week I think I'm going to start organizing Proposition 222!

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Geomancer said:
they have Obama's bail out money instead.

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lostnfound707 said:
Well as you know it is state legal already and getting better everyday the only thing working against us is the federal government.  But I hear rumors that something might work it's way into congress, over 21 can smoke pot just like alcohol.  The outcome that's a different story. 
  But in all the clubs out here they are already taxing the ganja and giving uncle sam some petty cash for the slush fund.  So time is on our side!

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its legal for medical not for everyone and if you really think the federal government is going to do that you should do some reading. the states can do what they want, but the feds have to keep it illegal because of treaties with the UN. if federal government legalizes pot we get kicked out of UN.

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psilyguy said:
the states can do what they want, but the feds have to keep it illegal because of treaties with the UN. if federal government legalizes pot we get kicked out of UN.

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psilyguy said:
Single Convention on Narcotic DrugsConvention on Psychotropic Substances


there are at least these two. many substances are prohibited internationally except for medical and research purposes.

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the states can do what they want, but the feds have to keep it illegal because of treaties with the UN. if federal government legalizes pot we get kicked out of UN.

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SbstratAlchemist said:
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citricacidx said:
well even if the bill gets approved, it will still need to go to the CA state House and Senate, no?

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Rebirtha said:
Here is how it works in California for bills introduced by an Assembly Member: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/bil2lawx.html

To break it down simply

-A bill is introduced and then assigned to a the appropriate subcommittee. They vote on it, and if they get a majority vote it's read on the House floor.

-There are 40 Senators and 80 Assembly Members representing the people of the State of California. Bills that require an appropriation or that take effect immediately, generally require 27 votes in the Senate and 54 votes in the Assembly to be passed. Other bills generally require 21 votes in the Senate and 41 votes in the Assembly. If a bill is defeated, the Member may seek reconsideration and another vote.

-If that's approved in the house it goes to another house vote and procedure repeated.

-If a bill is amended in the second house, it must go back to the house of origin for concurrence, which is agreement on the amendments

-Then goes to the Governator for signing

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the states can do what they want, but the feds have to keep it illegal because of treaties with the UN. if federal government legalizes pot we get kicked out of UN.

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