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hpi
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Question on the Military

#9879262 - 02/27/09 07:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

When you're in training how are the facilities?

Do you have separate closed off showers? Are the toilets still like they show in Full Metal Jacket? The washroom with all the toilets openly without stalls?

That's about the only thing holding me back from joining, I'd like to defecate in peace and alone.

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9879273 - 02/27/09 07:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
When you're in training how are the facilities?

Do you have separate closed off showers? Are the toilets still like they show in Full Metal Jacket? The washroom with all the toilets openly without stalls?

That's about the only thing holding me back from joining, I'd like to defecate in peace and alone.

haha no you'll never make it if that is a concern.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879296 - 02/27/09 07:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Trust me, I can make it but I'd like to do it shitting on my own thank you very much.

I love you're avvy btw. I just checked out that forum to, gonna go browse around it :laugh:

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Edited by hpi (02/27/09 07:58 PM)

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9879308 - 02/27/09 07:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hell you don't have to tell me man, I would just prepare for the worse.

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: Snaggletooth]
#9879320 - 02/27/09 08:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

if you're scared of shitting infront of people are you sure you want to get shot at as well?

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879331 - 02/27/09 08:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not fucking scared god damnit, I just wanna shit in peace and not with some other dude 2 feet on either side of me.

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9879369 - 02/27/09 08:07 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Have fun man! ahahah!

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9879372 - 02/27/09 08:07 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

chill, i was just interested.

i would imagine the facilities would be modern.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879389 - 02/27/09 08:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Is that a warehouse for toilets or something?

Man I just want an answer, if it's not stalled toilets then fuck I'm not gonna join.

That's fucked, I wanna be in the Foreign Legion but I want my stalled toilets.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879404 - 02/27/09 08:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There are open shitters and closed shitters. Chances are you'll end up with closed shitters and porta-potties through most of your service.

Only the old facilities I trained at had open shitters. It was funny.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879421 - 02/27/09 08:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I mean, if I'm at war and I gotta defecate in an open place then all worried it's no problem but at the base I'd like to be in a closed shitter.

Guess I'll have to visit some bases around here and see which ones have the closed shitters :lol:

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9879429 - 02/27/09 08:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

what makes you want to go into the service?

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879441 - 02/27/09 08:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

every base I've been to has closed shitters. You're only going to be exposed to open bay living in training or war, if at all.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879446 - 02/27/09 08:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ive just always wanted to go to war.

Ive always been a huge fanatical of war and the military. I fucking love weapons and tactics. I just wanna be a highly trained specialized killer.

I wanna fight for my Country sorta but really I wanna go to war for deep down personal reasons.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879465 - 02/27/09 08:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879475 - 02/27/09 08:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9879485 - 02/27/09 08:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It says you are in Canada under your avi, what are the chances you'll be in a war anyway?XD :rolleyes:

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879495 - 02/27/09 08:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There are some Canadians over there, eh.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879529 - 02/27/09 08:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Canada is in Afghanistan. A lot of the soldiers are actually from Quebec.

Our new PM is pretty much the Busch of Canada.

I wanna be in the Foreign legion though.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879547 - 02/27/09 08:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Crasher said:
There are some Canadians over there, eh.

Not Connadian military, because Canada voted with Chili and decided not to go to war, Spain and England have the third and second greatest number of troops i believe, though most over there are contractors from the US anyway.

Edit, ahh, Afghanistan, seems most support being there, though not Iraq.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879721 - 02/27/09 08:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I fucking love weapons and tactics. I just wanna be a highly trained specialized killer.

so here's your test...

you're the commander of the 103 Regiment, a civilian militia
group in the northern part of the US probably around Wisconsin
or Michigan, you're part of a growing number of the organized
movement... because of an agreement signed 15 years ago allowing
Canadian troops to enter the US, a new law by Congress that has
allowed them to come in and do house to house searches to
confiscate firearms due to recent acts of civil unrest, you are
now placed in the command of 30,000 armed men and women that are
eager to follow your orders and do what's right to restore order
in this country and repel the Canadian invaders

what would you do, what are your orders

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879732 - 02/27/09 08:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

milkman said:

what a fucking bitch

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#9879866 - 02/27/09 09:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

hpi said:
I fucking love weapons and tactics. I just wanna be a highly trained specialized killer.

so here's your test...

you're the commander of the 103 Regiment, a civilian militia
group in the northern part of the US probably around Wisconsin
or Michigan, you're part of a growing number of the organized
movement... because of an agreement signed 15 years ago allowing
Canadian troops to enter the US, a new law by Congress that has
allowed them to come in and do house to house searches to
confiscate firearms due to recent acts of civil unrest, you are
now placed in the command of 30,000 armed men and women that are
eager to follow your orders and do what's right to restore order
in this country and repel the Canadian invaders

what would you do, what are your orders

-Create false informants that give detailed accounts of "weapons caches" throughout the area.

-set up household IED's/ambushes to take out Canadian raiders who respond to these caches.

-Isolate major lines of communication/supply and interdict via ambush. (especially near border crossings.)

-Create psychological campaign against the weak Canadian military.

-establish a cellular structure to prevent any patrol or combatant militia members from posing a risk to the operations.

-Identify other regiments to conduct logistic and combat operations with.

-Attempt to acquire rotary-wing or fixed wing platforms and pilots from either the militia or invading force.

There's a few starters.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879870 - 02/27/09 09:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'd not do shit in that Vile country known as America besides nuke it if I could.

Sir, I will not be responding to you're question SIR!

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879985 - 02/27/09 09:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

hpi said:
I fucking love weapons and tactics. I just wanna be a highly trained specialized killer.

so here's your test...

you're the commander of the 103 Regiment, a civilian militia
group in the northern part of the US probably around Wisconsin
or Michigan, you're part of a growing number of the organized
movement... because of an agreement signed 15 years ago allowing
Canadian troops to enter the US, a new law by Congress that has
allowed them to come in and do house to house searches to
confiscate firearms due to recent acts of civil unrest, you are
now placed in the command of 30,000 armed men and women that are
eager to follow your orders and do what's right to restore order
in this country and repel the Canadian invaders

what would you do, what are your orders

A more realistic situation would be easier to answer that question :grin:

One of the reasons we hated Britain was that they would be able to go into our houses and take our shit for no reason. It's against the constitution. Therefore I would tell everyone that if some Canadian tries to come into your house, open the door with a shotgun loaded and say get the fuck out or I'll kill you.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9879998 - 02/27/09 09:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Plus why the hell would congress allow Canadian troops to come into the US and have jurisdiction?? It's the fucking USA. If another military tries to come in here and run shit they will get fucked up.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880007 - 02/27/09 09:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I think Pris' question was realistic, although 30k militiamen may be a stretch. You're not going to pull a shotgun on a 4-8 man team that's armed and ready to kick down your door. Best you can do is blow 'em up inside.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880042 - 02/27/09 09:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You wanna join the military and your biggest concern is having a private place to take a shit.

Best bet...stay outta the military.

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#9880060 - 02/27/09 09:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

niteowl said:
You wanna join the military and your biggest concern is having a private place to take a shit.

Best bet...stay outta the military.

I met a private who was trying to get out because he didn't get weekends off in AIT. :lol:

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880070 - 02/27/09 09:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You don't always get weekends off in permanent party

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880132 - 02/27/09 09:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I'd not do shit in that Vile country known as America besides nuke it if I could.

Sir, I will not be responding to you're question SIR!

you fail then, this wasnt a question of whether or not you like
america, or are american it's a scenario that determines how
you'd handle a situation

test 2, geared for a canadian

you're the commander of a battalion of gay lumberjacks, your
given orders to invade america and seize the guns because
canadians are incapable of accepting the consequences of their
own violence and feel the need to blame their neighbors to the
south. you're armed with 38 slingshots and a plate of poutine

what is your next move commander

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#9880144 - 02/27/09 09:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
you're the commander of a battalion of gay lumberjacks, your
given orders to invade america and seize the guns because
canadians are incapable of accepting the consequences of their
own violence and feel the need to blame their neighbors to the
south. you're armed with 38 slingshots and a plate of poutine

what is your next move commander?

BUTTSECKS!!!

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880176 - 02/27/09 09:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Crasher said:
I think Pris' question was realistic, although 30k militiamen may be a stretch. You're not going to pull a shotgun on a 4-8 man team that's armed and ready to kick down your door. Best you can do is blow 'em up inside.

considering that the agreement to allow Canadian troops to cross
the border has been signed, the US has already done surveys to
determine whether or not US troops would fire on US civilians
the UN is trying harder to push the disarmament of civilians...

it's more realistic than you think

there is another option you overlook... while 30k men is an
extreme stretch at the current time if there were to be a mass
confiscation by a foreign fighting force you'd have to run
people off to maintain the 30k troop limit

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880203 - 02/27/09 09:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

boletusoftruth said:
Plus why the hell would congress allow Canadian troops to come into the US and have jurisdiction?? It's the fucking USA. If another military tries to come in here and run shit they will get fucked up.

do some reading young man

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/419.html

http://www.northcom.mil/News/2008/021408.html

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880224 - 02/27/09 09:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Another question,

Would I be allowed to take my Adderall in training with my prescription and doctor saying to take it once a day?

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880232 - 02/27/09 09:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Have small tactical units split off and enter canadian territory to gather intel.

Once intel is gathered, target supply lines that supply the troops.

Destroy infrastructure if possible specifically bridges and roads.

build or use natural landscape to find choke points.

Have small units place traps on most probable entry points.

Have men in various buildings for sniper watches.

Guerrilla warefare style this sucker.

Test 2:

Train lumberjacks to loose accent. Customize to the american culture. Dress them up to blend in

Enter US, looking for work and blend in. Gather intel and if possible infiltrate militia. Allow the militia to train lumberjacks if infiltrated.

Use counterfeit currency heavily to purchase supplies.

plan attack with explosives at large militia gathering.

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#9880371 - 02/27/09 10:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

crasher had it right on test 2

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#9880405 - 02/27/09 10:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9880410 - 02/27/09 10:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
Another question,

Would I be allowed to take my Adderall in training with my prescription and doctor saying to take it once a day?

So, is that a yes or a no?

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#9880415 - 02/27/09 10:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
Another question,

Would I be allowed to take my Adderall in training with my prescription and doctor saying to take it once a day?

It's possible. I have a buddy who is still in who takes adderall for his PTSD related attention problems. It might make you non-deployable though.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880429 - 02/27/09 10:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Aw cmon!

That's fucking LAME. If anything I wanna go to war while amped up on Adderall, Id be much better at performing my duties.

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[Re: hpi]
#9880441 - 02/27/09 10:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Start using Copenhagen. Nothing like spacing out with a chew after being up over 36 hours.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880451 - 02/27/09 10:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

No No, I want Adderall and nothing else.

What's that you speak of anyways?

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880543 - 02/27/09 10:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

how should we know, canada doesnt have a real military

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Re: Question on the Military

[Re: hpi]
#9880557 - 02/27/09 10:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If you are taking adderall for an attention deficit disorder

You probably won't see any combat

:sorry:

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9880570 - 02/27/09 10:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't have ADD/ADHD.

I have a cause to take Adderall and that's cause I fucking love it and my doctor says so.

FINE FINE, Could I legally take my prescribed Adderall in the military? I do NOT have ADD/ADHD, I just have a script saying to take it but not for anything that would mess me up in combat.

Better?

Btw pris STFU mother fucker, I'm not the one who's country is $10 trillion in debt amongst other serious issues.

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#9880699 - 02/27/09 11:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You would have to get a RX from a military Dr.

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#9880735 - 02/27/09 11:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Aw for fuck sakes.

I'll have my doctor call the Military Doc :lol:

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#9880740 - 02/27/09 11:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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#9880804 - 02/27/09 11:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

beggers cant be choosers, we all shit, get over it and move on. the army will be a life changing experience, you will eventualy learn to adapt.

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#9880872 - 02/27/09 11:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Another question,

Would I be allowed to take my Adderall in training with my prescription and doctor saying to take it once a day?

My friend just tried to join the military taking ritalin. They told her that she had to discontinue all ADHD medication for one year, enroll in school and have a 3.0 GPA just to prove she's not a fuck up.... Even though she's already in school and has above that GPA. Not to mention a full time job.

The military is fine with PTSD. No ADD though. It's policy.

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#9880898 - 02/27/09 11:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quick question.

Since you are wanting to join the military to "kill some people"

Why are you wanting to join the Canadian military?
who have they killed recently?

Move down here to the U.S. and join our military

Plenty of chances to go to a foreign country and kill brown people.

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#9880941 - 02/27/09 11:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I can prove I'm not fucked up, easily.

Then after that I can take my Addy? I fucking hope so.

Niteowl, god dmanit you're a favored member of mine on here but reread the posts.

I said I wanted to join The Foreign legion. I was considering joining the American forces but that's as a last resort for me. I really wanna be Foreign legion.

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#9880951 - 02/27/09 11:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I'm not the one who's country is $10 trillion in debt amongst other serious issues.

it's not my debt so what do I have to worry about

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#9880962 - 02/28/09 12:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

you could join a contracting company inside america, there are probably more lenient restrictions & since you seem to have an unreasonable hate for the country you wouldn't even need to offically 'fight' for them.

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#9880965 - 02/28/09 12:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

America has a pretty liberal policy when it comes to psychiatric meds on the front lines : anti-depressants are acceptable. With most other countries, that's COMPLETELY not the case. It's considered more or less insane that the US lets people on psychiatric meds on the front line - it's damaging to the soldiers and the military's effectiveness. I doubt they'll let you near combat on psychiatric meds. If you want to join the military, get clean and stay clean. If you can do that, they'll give you a combat position. If not, there's a high likelihood that you'll never get the job you really want. Sorry, but that's the cost of doing drugs.

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#9880981 - 02/28/09 12:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I can prove I'm not fucked up, easily.

Then after that I can take my Addy? I fucking hope so.

Not without a *military* Dr's approval

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#9880985 - 02/28/09 12:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Fighting for the country is not my main reason for wanting to do what I wanna do.

I'm a very cold blooded person with A LOT of hatred and anger against the world and I got my own personal reasons that I will not share, at least for now.

I don't need to fight for my country, no ones attacking my country or trying to take away our freedom. My countries just fucking fine, we don't even have a reason to be down there to be honest.

This is the sorta shit that deters me from joining the American forces :

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/07/13/kaye.atheist.soldier.sues.cnn

Ah fuck it then, Ill go without my Adderall for fuck sakes.

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#9881000 - 02/28/09 12:06 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm a very cold blooded person with A LOT of hatred and anger against the world and I got my own personal reasons that I will not share, at least for now.

Don't compound that by joining the military. You might end up with more anger and hatred for yourself. Not to mention, practicing anger, being angry every day and acting hatefully, will only make your problems worse. If you're going to be a soldier that makes good decisions in this sort of combat, you have to have a clear head.

As for your video, do you think that kind of thing is limited to the US military?

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#9881005 - 02/28/09 12:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

hpi said:
I'm not the one who's country is $10 trillion in debt amongst other serious issues.

it's not my debt so what do I have to worry about

oh, snap!

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#9881049 - 02/28/09 12:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kriminalelement said:
Quote:

I'm a very cold blooded person with A LOT of hatred and anger against the world and I got my own personal reasons that I will not share, at least for now.

Don't compound that by joining the military. You might end up with more anger and hatred for yourself. Not to mention, practicing anger, being angry every day and acting hatefully, will only make your problems worse. If you're going to be a soldier that makes good decisions in this sort of combat, you have to have a clear head.

As for your video, do you think that kind of thing is limited to the US military?

I don't have any hatred and anger for myself but I do for a lot of the rest of the world. I got a clear head and know exactly what I want and what I wanna do.

Look, religion in the US is absolutely fucking insane in my point of view, I cannot stand that sorta shit. I don't know 1 religious person down here. It's hard to find churches where I live and when you find em their always empty. No one gives a fuck about god and religion where I live.

I go to America and I see churches and religious nonsense everywhere!

I went to Florida and one of the first things I see when I wake up in the morning while standing in my back yard is a fucking plane flying around poluting the air with bullshit messages saying how to Praise GOD and love the lord, that sorta shit makes me wanna take out a .50 cal and make that plane and pilot drop out of the fucking sky.

Americans and religion have gone way to far.

Now fuck the talk of religion, it's the last thing I wanna talk about when I'm amped up.

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#9881063 - 02/28/09 12:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You should lay off the uppers for a while man

Smoke some weed and calm the fuck down

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#9881073 - 02/28/09 12:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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niteowl said:
You should lay off the uppers for a while man

Smoke some weed and calm the fuck down

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#9881103 - 02/28/09 12:20 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I grew up in Texas, and I feel what you're saying. I never understood why people are so religious here.

But I've had the great fortune of traveling this country, and meeting the incredible, exciting, and terrible people of it, from coast to coast. It's hard not to be spiritual in the US. It's our history, our geography, our collective hysteria. The environment is majestic, intoxicating, and unbearably tawdry and painful. People find spirituality here, in lots of different ways. Even the crazy right wing yahoos can be entertaining in their convictions. If nothing else, at least we're passionate about the way reality functions in a metaphysical way.

Religion is the great strength and weakness of us. Being a Canadian, I would expect that you don't understand. You're not one of us.

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#9881135 - 02/28/09 12:25 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There is absolutely nothing that will make me spiritual and religious.

I can't believe such a fairy tale, my family never believed any of it and never forced it onto me.

Being truly honest, theirs a lot of cool Americans that I know, the shroomery is full of really kick ass Americans but I don't care for the history of the country. It's not my kind of country at all.

About the only thing I support America in is their military and war history, anything else I don't really wanna hear.

Here's a pic of one of my bookshelves showing my admiration for American war history :

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#9881164 - 02/28/09 12:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

b]kriminalelement said:

Quote:

that sorta shit makes me wanna take out a .50 cal and make that plane and pilot drop out of the fucking sky.

i want to party with this dude! :minigun:

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#9881171 - 02/28/09 12:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Your religion is death. You have all the holy books, all the principles. Religion isn't a fairy tale. Religion is the very real way you structure your reality.

The bloodiest American war, killing more men than all other wars in American history combined, freed black slaves. You want to kill all minorities (see separate post - "Joining the Military"). The American military has committed itself in a very real way to ending racism and oppression of "minorities".

Wake up. You're the minority. You're fucking white. Do you know how many brown people are on this planet?

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#9881192 - 02/28/09 12:32 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I mean killing minorites in places where there's no such thing as peace and freedom. Wipe those people out for good so they don't have to live the way they do.

I have nothing against those Africans who are starving to death and dying from diseases and from genocide. Nothing will stop that hence the reason for mass extinction of those people.

I know that if I was in their shoes, Id rather die then go through all that sorta shit daily.

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#9881204 - 02/28/09 12:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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where there's no such thing as peace and freedom.

Peace and freedom are everywhere, at all times. Get some sleep. You'll feel better soon.

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#9881222 - 02/28/09 12:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:

I know that if I was in their shoes, Id rather die then go through all that sorta shit daily.

I feel the same way about pill popping armchair soldiers like you.
Do the right thing.

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#9881224 - 02/28/09 12:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I feel fucking fine!

There's no such thing as peace. A lot of spots on "GODS" green earth are in total chaos and ruin all day every day. Getting killed over a bowl of rice is not peace and freedom.

Crazy bastards and kid soldiers sporting AK's and machetes comiting genocide is not peace and freedom. NOTHING besides their extinction will stop that.

Quote:

blewmeanie said:
Quote:

hpi said:

I know that if I was in their shoes, Id rather die then go through all that sorta shit daily.

I feel the same way about pill popping armchair soldiers like you.
Do the right thing.

Sorry man but I won't do that.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9881241 - 02/28/09 12:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

More people, historically, have lived like the brown people that you so want to exterminate than like yourself (an over privileged white crank head)

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#9881243 - 02/28/09 12:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'd just like to say, that it makes me sick how people in this thread protray Canada as having no role in the war on terror.
Canada has men in Afghanistan, men that die just like US Troopers. All I can say to Prisoner is that I've really enjoyed his posts thus far, but in this thread he's shown a complete lack of respect to the KIA from Canada.

Prisoner. I'd like you to look into the faces of these men, then maybe give the people of Canada an apology.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/casualties/list.html

Show some motherfucking respect.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9881290 - 02/28/09 12:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
There's no such thing as peace.

Because of asshats like yourself
who think it is their job
to run around the globe
killing people that are not like themselves.

Seriously.....stop doing so much speed.
You are starting to make yourself look like an idiot.

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#9881303 - 02/28/09 12:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

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#9881320 - 02/28/09 12:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

QFT.
To believe anything else is crazy.
I'm still asking Prisoner to look into the faces of each of those men.

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#9881322 - 02/28/09 12:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

Peace can exist as long as people do not think like you.

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#9881326 - 02/28/09 12:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Kada said:
Quote:

hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

Peace can exist as long as people are not like you.

ironic?

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#9881329 - 02/28/09 12:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

blewmeanie said:
Quote:

Kada said:
Quote:

hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

Peace can exist as long as people are not like you.

ironic?

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#9881330 - 02/28/09 12:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Kada said:
Quote:

hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

Peace can exist as long as people are not like you.

Yeah? And what's going to stop that? It's human nature man, somebody is going to fuck up any attempt at "world peace".

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#9881331 - 02/28/09 12:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Its better to work towards peace than saying fuck it and going around killing random people to blow off steam.

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#9881332 - 02/28/09 12:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

eh, it could but it'll take time,
there was a time when peace couldn't exist on a local scale, a regional scale, a national scale, a continental scale... eventually i think there will be relative world peace.

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#9881337 - 02/28/09 12:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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CokedUpHobit64 said:
Its better to work towards peace than saying fuck it and going around killing random people to blow off steam.

it would be neat if the human race went extinct

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#9881344 - 02/28/09 12:51 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

CokedUpHobit64 said:
Its better to work towards peace than saying fuck it and going around killing random people to blow off steam.

And exactly what are you doing to help world peace?

Would your version of world peace be having all the white folk safetely in North America while the Africans killed each other and the Arabs killed the Jews and the Jews killed the Arabs?

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#9881354 - 02/28/09 12:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

twighead said:
Quote:

hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

eh, it could but it'll take time,
there was a time when peace couldn't exist on a local scale, a regional scale, a national scale, a continental scale... eventually i think there will be relative world peace.

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#9881363 - 02/28/09 12:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You promote world peace here.
Then you promote the slashing of tires in another thread.

Niteowl, you are a fucking hypocrite. Both of those are conflicts, simply on different levels, and that is why there cannot be world peace. Human nature.

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#9881377 - 02/28/09 12:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There is no way to stop killing, because there is always one more deranged man out there willing to do whatever is necessary to gain control. That doesn't mean you become the deranged man to stop the deranged man. Or is that inevitable?

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#9881383 - 02/28/09 12:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your Destination said:
Quote:

CokedUpHobit64 said:
Its better to work towards peace than saying fuck it and going around killing random people to blow off steam.

And exactly what are you doing to help world peace?

Would your version of world peace be having all the white folk safetely in North America while the Africans killed each other and the Arabs killed the Jews and the Jews killed the Arabs?

Well, I do a shitload of volunteer work in my community, usually try to promote peace to people around me, and am planning to join the Peace Corps once I graduate college.

I dont even know how to respond to the latter section of you post because its so fucking retarded.

Like someone said, peace was a long way off hundreds of years ago, but we're getting closer every day.

It's people like you that harbor some sort of self loathing and cynicism toward the human race that gets in the way. Your taking the easy way out. Yeah its just "human nature". Fuck that bullshit.

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#9881385 - 02/28/09 12:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Inevitable.

BTW, all you assholes who insulted our northern neighbor better have looked each one of those men in the face.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/casualties/list.html

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#9881401 - 02/28/09 01:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

CokedUpHobit64 said:
Quote:

Your Destination said:
Quote:

CokedUpHobit64 said:
Its better to work towards peace than saying fuck it and going around killing random people to blow off steam.

And exactly what are you doing to help world peace?

Would your version of world peace be having all the white folk safetely in North America while the Africans killed each other and the Arabs killed the Jews and the Jews killed the Arabs?

Well, I do a shitload of volunteer work in my community, usually try to promote peace to people around me, and am planning to join the Peace Corps once I graduate college.

I dont even know how to respond to the latter section of you post because its so fucking retarded.

Like someone said, peace was a long way off hundreds of years ago, but we're getting closer every day.

It's people like you that harbor some sort of self loathing and cynicism toward the human race that gets in the way. Your taking the easy way out. Yeah its just "human nature". Fuck that bullshit.

You will never see world peace. Neither will your children.

Peacekeeping is largely ineffective. Check out Rwanda, perfect example. The UN was powerless to stop the slaughter of the Tutsi.

Sure, I'm taking the 'easy' way out. Maybe, it's the right way out.

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#9881406 - 02/28/09 01:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

See, I don't believe in vandalism, theft, murder of innocent people but theress a twist to that part.

The Innocent people living in war struck countries where theirs nothing but poverty, disease and genocide should all be killed along with the people commiting those haneous crimes. It's for their own good, like I said, If I was in their shoes I'd rather die then live through that every day.

Now killing an innocent person who lives in a free peaceful nation isn't right.

I'm all for war and killing of terrorists down in the Middle East, unfortunately civilians will be killed in that process but it's part of life and somethings just happen and there's nothing to do about it.

Cokeduphobit, you join a peace force and get sent off to the Mid East, chances are you'll probably end up having to fight and kill.

Canadian soldiers are there for peace keeping but they face off in combat and lose their lives.

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#9881409 - 02/28/09 01:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your Destination said:
You promote world peace here.
Then you promote the slashing of tires in another thread.

Niteowl, you are a fucking hypocrite. Both of those are conflicts, simply on different levels, and that is why there cannot be world peace. Human nature.

Cutting someones tires because they left me stranded
and believing that there can be world peace are two different things

at least i didn't kill the guy :tongue:

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#9881414 - 02/28/09 01:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
See, I don't believe in vandalism, theft, murder of innocent people but theress a twist to that part.

The Innocent people living in war struck countries where theirs nothing but poverty, disease and genocide should all be killed along with the people commiting those haneous crimes. It's for their own good, like I said, If I was in their shoes I'd rather die then live through that every day.

Now killing an innocent person who lives in a free peaceful nation isn't right.

I'm all for war and killing of terrorists down in the Middle East, unfortunately civilians will be killed in that process but it's part of life and somethings just happen and there's nothing to do about it.

Talk about your hypocrite :whatever:

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[Re: hpi]
#9881418 - 02/28/09 01:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that civilian casualties are inevitable, however, I do believe that the maximum effort should be made to minimize them.
In that HPI, we disagree.

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[Re: hpi]
#9881419 - 02/28/09 01:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
See, I don't believe in vandalism, theft, murder of innocent people but theress a twist to that part.

The Innocent people living in war struck countries where theirs nothing but poverty, disease and genocide should all be killed along with the people commiting those haneous crimes. It's for their own good, like I said, If I was in their shoes I'd rather die then live through that every day.

Now killing an innocent person who lives in a free peaceful nation isn't right.

I'm all for war and killing of terrorists down in the Middle East, unfortunately civilians will be killed in that process but it's part of life and somethings just happen and there's nothing to do about it.

Sounds like your just trying to justify killing people, and using a very twisted outlook to justify it at that.

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#9881422 - 02/28/09 01:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Shit man, i love canada. They are like that cousin you wish you could be like.

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#9881427 - 02/28/09 01:04 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

niteowl said:
Quote:

Your Destination said:
You promote world peace here.
Then you promote the slashing of tires in another thread.

Niteowl, you are a fucking hypocrite. Both of those are conflicts, simply on different levels, and that is why there cannot be world peace. Human nature.

Cutting someones tires because they left me stranded
and believing that there can be world peace are two different things

at least i didn't kill the guy

Excuses. You're still continuing the process of conflict.

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#9881449 - 02/28/09 01:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your Destination said:
I agree that civilian casualties are inevitable, however, I do believe that the maximum effort should be made to minimize them.
In that HPI, we disagree.

I agree with that to but I meant that some things are just our of you're control. Some suicide bomber blowing themselves up in heavily populated areas are pretty much out of our control. It's a guarilla war, you don't know who you're enemies are, you don't know who's packing themselves full of fragmentation explosives cause their all wearing goutras (sp) and robes :shrug:

Quote:

CokedUpHobit64 said:
Sounds like your just trying to justify killing people, and using a very twisted outlook to justify it at that.

There is no justification needed to kill someone who needs to be taken out. Somethings just need to be done.

Quote:

Kada said:
Shit man, i love canada. They are like that cousin you wish you could be like.

Sarcasm right?

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[Re: hpi]
#9881454 - 02/28/09 01:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If I don't get me a response out of Prisoner some time soon I'll have to resort to the :pm:

system.

Don't make me PM that to you. Man the fuck up.

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#9881524 - 02/28/09 01:27 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your Destination said:
If I don't get me a response out of Prisoner some time soon I'll have to resort to the system.

Don't make me PM that to you. Man the fuck up.

Do it.

Just checked the list, 108 KIA.

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#9882913 - 02/28/09 10:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It was done. I doubt I'll get an answer though.

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[Re: hpi]
#9882937 - 02/28/09 10:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
When you're in training how are the facilities?

Do you have separate closed off showers? Are the toilets still like they show in Full Metal Jacket? The washroom with all the toilets openly without stalls?

That's about the only thing holding me back from joining, I'd like to defecate in peace and alone.

i can understand wanting to have the simplicities in life, they can often be taken for granted... but if you are honestly being held back by that alone, then you really really should not join the military.

i figure the best frame of mind for joining the military is similar to approaching an ego shattering mushroom trip. cast away all fear, and just approach it with an open mind; your world will drastically alter thereafter when you join.

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#9882961 - 02/28/09 11:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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boletusoftruth said:
Plus why the hell would congress allow Canadian troops to come into the US and have jurisdiction?? It's the fucking USA. If another military tries to come in here and run shit they will get fucked up.

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#9882998 - 02/28/09 11:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I'd not do shit in that Vile country known as America besides nuke it if I could.

Sir, I will not be responding to you're question SIR!

And you'll never make it in a true military.......oh thats right, Canada's military isn't truly a military, SIR. LOL

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#9883068 - 02/28/09 11:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Tranced Shroom said:
oh thats right, Canada's military isn't truly a military, SIR. LOL

Why is this true?

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#9883079 - 02/28/09 11:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your Destination said:
I'm still asking Prisoner to look into the faces of each of those men.

why is canada in afghanistan? why should I have sympathy for a
soldier that volunteers his life to the cause of war when there are
many others that didnt ask for it, try looking into the eyes of a
12 year old girl that was raped and tortured and then tell me it's
the soldiers fighting for 'freedom' that deserve the sympathy

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#9883095 - 02/28/09 11:40 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Because you don't agree with the war gives you permission to show a complete lack of respect for their dedication and sacrifice?

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#9883156 - 02/28/09 11:51 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your Destination said:
Peacekeeping is largely ineffective. Check out Rwanda, perfect example. The UN was powerless to stop the slaughter of the Tutsi.

Srebrenica

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#9883183 - 02/28/09 11:55 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your Destination said:
Because you don't agree with the war gives you permission to show a complete lack of respect for their dedication and sacrifice?

who is making the sacrifice, these men are mercenaries, they are
soldiers being paid to do a job, it's a dangerous job but that
doesnt change the fact that they are payed combatants, we can
glorify it by telling everyone what a great service they're
doing for their country and humanity but lets face the facts,
Canada has no business in afghanistan

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[Re: Prisoner#1]
#9883309 - 02/28/09 12:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

Peace and freedom are internal properties. They exist in the mind and the heart. You can't stop peace from happening. It's a basic quality of human nature.

That's not to say that people always live up to this. We're not perfect. There will never be a time when people aren't fucked up, or suffering in some very real way, or oppressed by a tyrant of some kind. The goal is to achieve a state of peace within your own mind first, and then act in a way that is internally consistent.

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[Re: kriminalelement]
#9883385 - 02/28/09 12:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kriminalelement said:
You can't stop peace from happening. It's a basic quality of human nature.

2 sides of the same coin, cant stop war because it's also a part of human nature

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#9883391 - 02/28/09 12:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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2 sides of the same coin, cant stop war because it's also a part of human nature

I agree. Saying peace is impossible or nonexistent is just as ridiculous as saying war is impossible.

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#9883403 - 02/28/09 12:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kriminalelement said:
Quote:

2 sides of the same coin, cant stop war because it's also a part of human nature

I agree. Saying peace is impossible or nonexistent is just as ridiculous as saying war is impossible.

War is easy. War is simple. War happens because people cannot get along.

Peace does not make sense. People are not always going to help others and not fight.

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#9883416 - 02/28/09 12:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

People are not always going to fight, either. In fact, most people will do everything possible to avoid a fight.

Edit: Like I said earlier, peace is an internal issue, not necessarily an external principle.

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#9883424 - 02/28/09 12:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kriminalelement said:
Quote:

2 sides of the same coin, cant stop war because it's also a part of human nature

I agree. Saying peace is impossible or nonexistent is just as ridiculous as saying war is impossible.

peace is very possible, look how long the candians have managed to live without fear of invasion

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#9883469 - 02/28/09 12:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

kriminalelement said:
Quote:

2 sides of the same coin, cant stop war because it's also a part of human nature

I agree. Saying peace is impossible or nonexistent is just as ridiculous as saying war is impossible.

peace is very possible, look how long the candians have managed to live without fear of invasion

And there are Canadian Combatants.
Canada borders USA, with whom they have very close connections. Canada has not been invaded because nobody needs it. We'll see how this fresh water supply goes though.

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#9883787 - 02/28/09 01:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Your Destination said:
And there are Canadian Combatants.

I ask again, why are there canadians involved in the fighting in afghanistan

Quote:

We'll see how this fresh water supply goes though.

something that has nil effect on my life, I have access to 3
million gallons per day of fresh clean water from an artesian
source, in fact the water in my toilet is cleaner than the water
in the taps in most cities

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[Re: kriminalelement]
#9883920 - 02/28/09 01:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kriminalelement said:
People are not always going to fight, either. In fact, most people will do everything possible to avoid a fight.

Edit: Like I said earlier, peace is an internal issue, not necessarily an external principle.

Peace is impossible, never was peace nor will there ever be peace.

War is also inevitable and always will be.

Quote:

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Quote:

Your Destination said:
And there are Canadian Combatants.

I ask again, why are there canadians involved in the fighting in afghanistan

I'd like to see what Americans do when they suck the Mid East dry of oil.

America is down in the Mid East partly to suck the oil dry, that's not any better then the reasons Canada is down there.

If we wouldn't be down there you'd be hearign Americans say that were pussies but now that we are there we have no reason to be?

Quote:

We'll see how this fresh water supply goes though.

something that has nil effect on my life, I have access to 3
million gallons per day of fresh clean water from an artesian
source, in fact the water in my toilet is cleaner than the water
in the taps in most cities

We got the best source of Electricity and water right where I live so I couldn't give 2 fucks myself. I can leave all the water in my house on all day if I want to.

I will say this, tap water in Florida has gotta be some of the most vile tasting water Ive ever tried. What the fuck is wrong what that water? It doesn't even smell good.

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#9883975 - 02/28/09 01:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
I will say this, tap water in Florida has gotta be some of the most vile tasting water Ive ever tried. What the fuck is wrong what that water? It doesn't even smell good.

sulfur, if you shower in it it leaves you feeling greasy, it smells
a little of rotten eggs, it's fairly common in a lot of municipal
water supplies, they arent adding it, it's just the source it's
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#9883996 - 02/28/09 01:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Dude it was fucking HORRIBLE.

Water here tastes so good from the tap and smells of water, nothing. Taking a shower in it feels so fresh but in Florida I don't know how people do it with that water. It's fucking horrible.

They can't do anything about it?

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#9884031 - 02/28/09 02:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

the water where I am is completely untreated, the same water goes
into the city pool where there's no chlorine or chemicals, it's not
uncommon to find trout in the pool, this is the only place where I
will drink the water

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#9884047 - 02/28/09 02:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yo,Prisoner#1 nice to see you hit the 100k mark...cheers man.

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#9884129 - 02/28/09 02:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

like we didnt already jack this thread :smirk:

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#9884143 - 02/28/09 02:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

oops! Ok so yeah you should go and join the military. :grin:

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#9884145 - 02/28/09 02:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I totally didn't expect this thread to turn out this way, I guess me being sped last night brought out more of my anger and hatred out of me.

I like the way the thread turned out though :shrug:

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884159 - 02/28/09 02:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That is the cool things about thread....once you start them you never know where they will go.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884182 - 02/28/09 02:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

are you still going on about looking them in the face. grow up d00d.
they just look like every one else that dies in a stupid meaningless war. It's a waste of lives, period. I don't get why you need someone to look your canadians in the face. I think we get it.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884188 - 02/28/09 02:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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collinZzZz said:
are you still going on about looking them in the face. grow up d00d.
they just look like every one else that dies in a stupid meaningless war. It's a waste of lives, period. I don't get why you need someone to look your canadians in the face. I think we get it.

I didn't say anythign about that.

An American posted the link to the Canadian soldiers page.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884190 - 02/28/09 02:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

oh. oops.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884191 - 02/28/09 02:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
Quote:

collinZzZz said:
are you still going on about looking them in the face. grow up d00d.
they just look like every one else that dies in a stupid meaningless war. It's a waste of lives, period. I don't get why you need someone to look your canadians in the face. I think we get it.

I didn't say anythign about that.

An American posted the link to the Canadian soldiers page.

That would be me. And that would be in response to posts insulting Canada and their soldiers.
If you're going to say that Canada isn't doing anything militarily, you better be ready to see that they are.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884533 - 02/28/09 03:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hpi said:
This is the sorta shit that deters me from joining the American forces :

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/07/13/kaye.atheist.soldier.sues.cnn

haha, wow, now I'm definitely never joining our military because I'm atheist. I didn't know they were such a minority there. Plus I've done pretty much every illegal drug too.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884550 - 02/28/09 03:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Opioid said:
Quote:

hpi said:
This is the sorta shit that deters me from joining the American forces :

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/07/13/kaye.atheist.soldier.sues.cnn

haha, wow, now I'm definitely never joining our military because I'm atheist. I didn't know they were such a minority there. Plus I've done pretty much every illegal drug too.

Being an Atheist and in the military do not mix well....that fucking sucks.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884564 - 02/28/09 03:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That is true, and one thing I hate about the Army.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884581 - 02/28/09 03:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
Being an Atheist and in the military do not mix well....that fucking sucks.

yeah I'm so glad I never joined, I had no idea this went on in the american military. That would have really sucked ass.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884653 - 02/28/09 04:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Opioid said:
Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
Being an Atheist and in the military do not mix well....that fucking sucks.

yeah I'm so glad I never joined, I had no idea this went on in the american military. That would have really sucked ass.

The story's of harassment on Atheist in the military is only second to gays in the military. Our military, is a christen army, gods army...this is fucked up...in a way we are no better then the j-hads, they just pray differently and to a different god....this should make people scared...

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884672 - 02/28/09 04:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
Quote:

Opioid said:
Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
Being an Atheist and in the military do not mix well....that fucking sucks.

yeah I'm so glad I never joined, I had no idea this went on in the american military. That would have really sucked ass.

The story's of harassment on Atheist in the military is only second to gays in the military. Our military, is a christen army, gods army...this is fucked up...in a way we are no better then the j-hads, they just pray differently and to a different god....this should make people scared...

yeah I already know how religious all these assholes are, that's one reason I hate this country and I don't want to fight for it. Plus I'm already in a war here - the drug war

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9884695 - 02/28/09 04:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Opioid said:
yeah I already know how religious all these assholes are, that's one reason I hate this country and I don't want to fight for it. Plus I'm already in a war here the drug war

HA! Yeah the war on drugs...yes another christen crusade, the righteous will strike down the wicked....lol Fucking christen nut jobs will kill for their sky fair...

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886127 - 02/28/09 08:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

hpi, if you want to join, then all you have to do is tell whatever military you want to join what they want to hear.

its going to be along the lines of i want to serve this country.. it is my duty etc...

do whatever you need to do and get in....

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886491 - 02/28/09 09:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

My brother was in the military, he told me never to join it..

Then one day, some army recruiter kept stalking me, eventually coming to my work, and so I talked to him. told him I once used to be an addict and blah blah blah..

he said its all okay, then one of his superiors talked to me, and said they couldn't accept me because of my history with hard drugs...

So i basically learned that

Hard drugs could have possibly saved my life.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886500 - 02/28/09 09:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hpi said:
When you're in training how are the facilities?

Do you have separate closed off showers? Are the toilets still like they show in Full Metal Jacket? The washroom with all the toilets openly without stalls?

That's about the only thing holding me back from joining, I'd like to defecate in peace and alone.

I went to Fort Benning, Georgia. An all-male basic at the time (I'd assume it still is).

The showers in reception (first week before basic) were all open I believe. Toilets were private. In basic, the showers had partitions on the sides and you faced the wall. Which means enough privacy but nothing you'd feel comfortable rubbing one out in. Toilets were private. In the field you had to crap around someone at one point. In school, showers and toilets were private. But schools vary quite a bit by occupation.

Most active duty facilities I went to had showers with reasonable long partitions and maybe a curtain.

I'd consider other things before you join. The military is a total institution which has a few benefits and a lot cons. The best part is that your food, shelter, health, and retirement is taken care of with a low cost of living. Your needs are met. But you also lose part of your soul. They strip your identity, put you in a uniform, attempt to control your thinking in every way. They get you to do absurd stuff. Example: Being a part of an institution that kills strangers on the other side of the planet for their property, resources, or whatever. Then you wear a shiny metal on your chest, you feel proud and everyone congratulates you. You can't leave whenever you want to. The culture is different and intolerant of deviance. They even attempt to turn many troops into religious fanatics by pushing chaplains in an attempt to rewire your thinking (killing, dying for country = reward in heaven).

Don't buy into any false ideas. You probably will never defend your country. You won't even do much in the interest of the typical American. If anything, you will be killing on behalf of corporations and government officials. Or worse, you get killed in the process. I never got hurt but a soldier in my unit got his head blown off by an RPG. He was a really nice guy. Everyone liked him.

College money and training can be a joke. Tuition assistance is never promised on paper (I hardly ever got it and they always tried to take it back). The GI bill never came on time and was so measly I got most of my money from working at a drug store during college. I also was deployed during college and was asked to go on annual training during the middle of the semester every year. It took me 7 years to finish college as a student taking 15 units a semester without failing classes. I didn't get good health benefits. In fact, one time I went to their dentist and was given orders to get a bunch of fillings at a civilian dentist where I would pay out of pocket. When I said I didn't have any money, I was told to volunteer for duty in Iraq so I could see a free military dentist. The training is useless unless you apply it to contracting businesses that work with the military.

Maybe you'll like it. I didn't. I felt ashamed for getting involved with attacking innocent people and going along with it because I was scared. I smashed or broke every medal and award they gave me and threw it in the trash. It was a waste of my time and it is a black hole that only ruins human lives.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886509 - 02/28/09 09:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
Quote:

Opioid said:
Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
Being an Atheist and in the military do not mix well....that fucking sucks.

yeah I'm so glad I never joined, I had no idea this went on in the american military. That would have really sucked ass.

The story's of harassment on Atheist in the military is only second to gays in the military. Our military, is a christen army, gods army...this is fucked up...in a way we are no better then the j-hads, they just pray differently and to a different god....this should make people scared...

When I was being deployed to Kuwait/Iraq, a chaplain asked me about my religion. I said I was an atheist. She then told me that she strongly suggests picking a religion. Because if I didn't, I would be "very scared about going to war."

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886528 - 02/28/09 09:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hpi said:
I don't do a lot of speed.

It's not cause of asshats like myself, it's cause peace cannot exist on a complete global scale.

Wars are always started by a government or a religious group. It takes fucked up people to convince us to start killing each other.

Remember the Maine? Gulf on Tonkin? Operation Northwoods? 9-11?

Normal people just don't get the urge to start traveling to other parts of the world and kill strangers. Only when people start "following orders" do they do stupid shit like that.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886539 - 02/28/09 09:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

chaplins suck. they are so fake, it makes me sick. I just got back from iraq a few months ago. I've never been so bored in all my life.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886579 - 02/28/09 09:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hpi said:
That's fucked, I wanna be in the Foreign Legion but I want my stalled toilets.

LOL.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886781 - 02/28/09 10:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Oregon said:
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hpi said:
That's fucked, I wanna be in the Foreign Legion but I want my stalled toilets.

LOL.

I don't mind defecating/urinating infront of others but I'd just rather be in a stall, I mean who wouldn;t? I will do it though.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9886915 - 02/28/09 11:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah cause the sky fairy will protect ya...lol

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9887360 - 03/01/09 12:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

something that strikes me as funny, all these athiests or what ever
keep bashing the christians beliefs in this thread and not one
christian has said anything out of line about athiests... who was
it again that tries to force their religious beliefs down people
throats?

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#9887369 - 03/01/09 12:32 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Religious folk aren't saying anything because arguing with this type of atheist is pointless.
I'd love to debate religion, however, I'll pick my fights with people who have a bit more respect.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9887386 - 03/01/09 12:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'd like to believe that the athiests are the religious zealots of
our day, soon they'll carry out their crusades and torture people
into confessing that they believe in god

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#9887399 - 03/01/09 12:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I am most certainly not a religious person. Though I've considered many times trying out Christianity, but there are indeed atheists that scare me.
Way too much hate.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9887400 - 03/01/09 12:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I wish all religious followers would get gunned down. Fucking assholes.

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#9887401 - 03/01/09 12:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

See above post.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9887402 - 03/01/09 12:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
something that strikes me as funny, all these athiests or what ever
keep bashing the christians beliefs in this thread and not one
christian has said anything out of line about athiests... who was
it again that tries to force their religious beliefs down people
throats?

They have both been guilty. An example of atheism going too far may include the Chinese communists regime and their history with Buddhists and philosophical brainwashing.

But in the United State military, I was asked to adopt a belief system that involved an organized religion to make the act of going to war more tolerable.

I don't know why you would bring this up here. Atheists do not have the power or motivation to force their beliefs upon the masses in the military. As one military representative has said, if you don't believe in god, then you are nothing but worm food when you go to war and die.

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#9888141 - 03/01/09 03:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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SonicKuz said:

But in the United State military, I was asked to adopt a belief system that involved an organized religion to make the act of going to war more tolerable.

As one military representative has said, if you don't believe in god, then you are nothing but worm food when you go to war and die.

lol, so did you pick a religion? And does it say your religion on you dog tag? Would it say Atheist on it?

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9888999 - 03/01/09 11:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

it would say athiest, it is a recognized religion

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9889142 - 03/01/09 11:59 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Then you sir would be wrong

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#9889513 - 03/01/09 01:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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it would say athiest, it is a recognized religion

It said no religious preference on my tags. So that way they can tell everyone I went to heaven if I were to get killed and that way nobody would care.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9889531 - 03/01/09 01:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Snaggletooth said:
Quote:

hpi said:
When you're in training how are the facilities?

Do you have separate closed off showers? Are the toilets still like they show in Full Metal Jacket? The washroom with all the toilets openly without stalls?

That's about the only thing holding me back from joining, I'd like to defecate in peace and alone.

haha no you'll never make it if that is a concern.

I'm laughing my ass off at your avatar, I love all those fucking shirts and normally I despise "witty" text shirts. :lol:

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#9890034 - 03/01/09 02:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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niteowl said:
Then you sir would be wrong

nope, I am correct, it's recognized and put on dog tags just as
any other religious belief, and before you make the claim that
atheism isnt a religion, it's recognized as such due to the
religious belief that there is no god and no afterlife

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#9890156 - 03/01/09 03:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

atheism is the absence of a religion.

calling atheism a religion is kinda like saying that poker is a sport.

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#9890238 - 03/01/09 03:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If it's on espn it's a sport

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#9890325 - 03/01/09 03:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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niteowl said:

atheism is the absence of a religion.

calling atheism a religion is kinda like saying that poker is a sport.

atheism is an absence of god, it's a religion in it's self because
it is in fact a religious belief system, your analogy is way off base

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

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Atheism is broadly defined[1] as any absence of belief in deities,[2] but can also be the explicit view that there are no deities,[3] or the rejection of theism as being immoral, meaningless, incoherent, unwarranted, or false.

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#9890376 - 03/01/09 03:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

re⋅li⋅gion
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Atheism has no set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, or purpose of the universe.

There are no set rules, no rituals, nothing
just the belief that there is no god.

That doesn't make it a religion.

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#9890391 - 03/01/09 03:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

niteowl said:

atheism is the absence of a religion.

calling atheism a religion is kinda like saying that poker is a sport.

And not collecting stamps is a hobby!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH~

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#9890526 - 03/01/09 04:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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re⋅li⋅gion
–noun
1. a set of beliefs

Atheism has no set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, or purpose of the universe.

"Religion" is sometimes used interchangeably with "faith" or "belief system,"[2] but it is more socially defined than personal convictions, and it entails specific behaviors, respectively.

it takes as much faith to believe in a god as it does to believe there isnt one, the belief there is no god is also a personal conviction for the atheist

"It is apparent that religion can be seen as a theological, philosophical, anthropological, sociological, and psychological phenomenon of human kind. To limit religion to only one of these categories is to miss its multifaceted nature and lose out on the complete definition." -Kile Jones

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#9890854 - 03/01/09 04:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I think we are getting off track here. You can probably put a lot of things on your tags and easily just fill out an order form and order them from a non-contracted manufacturer (since they make nicer ones).

You can probably have atheism or no rel. pref. (like I had) or possibly something like agnostic. Whatever you put there does not decide the argument of whether atheism is a religion. Heck, you could probably put Buddhist on your tags and not view it as a religion but a mixture of philosophy, spirituality, or mysticism.

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[Re: flexintexan]
#9891107 - 03/01/09 05:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

do you still wear your dog tags when you're out of the military?

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891114 - 03/01/09 05:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'd put Atheist on my dog tags.

If I get KIA I don't care if people think I didn't go to Heaven or don't care. I know there's no such thing as Heaven so I couldn't care less :shrug:

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891144 - 03/01/09 05:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hpi said:
I'd put Atheist on my dog tags.

If I get KIA I don't care if people think I didn't go to Heaven or don't care. I know there's no such thing as Heaven so I couldn't care less

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891151 - 03/01/09 05:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You as a athiest may think this way,but the other athiest people have already ruined that for you.

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/trouble_with_atheism.php

"Rod Liddle argues against those who turn to atheism for a rational and moderate approach to today's problems, and says that atheism has high priests and dogmatic beliefs, just like fundamentalist religion."

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891160 - 03/01/09 05:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

interesting video, thanks

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891170 - 03/01/09 05:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I just like science man.

I'm all about stars, galaxies, supernovas etc. I just don't believe in Religion because it's fucking retarded, I'll stick with Space.

Religion has absolutely no place in my life.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891177 - 03/01/09 05:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

me too

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891205 - 03/01/09 05:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hpi said:
I just like science man.

that's another religion unto it's self

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891210 - 03/01/09 05:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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unretarded said:
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/trouble_with_atheism.php

I wanna fuck that milf ellen johnson

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891217 - 03/01/09 05:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Opioid said:
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unretarded said:
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/trouble_with_atheism.php

I wanna fuck that milf ellen johnson

You like MILFS to?

:awesome:

Pris, I'm a religious man then.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891225 - 03/01/09 05:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hpi said:
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Opioid said:
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unretarded said:
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/trouble_with_atheism.php

I wanna fuck that milf ellen johnson

You like MILFS to?

not usuallly, but she turns me on

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891233 - 03/01/09 05:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hpi said:
Pris, I'm a religious man then.

reject religions, regardless of what the disguise themselves as
have faith in yourself and your beliefs

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891243 - 03/01/09 06:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Opioid said:
Quote:

unretarded said:
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/trouble_with_atheism.php

I wanna fuck that milf ellen johnson

I can understand why... she's got it going on

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891244 - 03/01/09 06:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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hpi said:
Pris, I'm a religious man then.

reject religions, regardless of what the disguise themselves as
have faith in yourself and your beliefs

You called science a religion.
I'm not going to reject science because one of their arguments goes against my personal beliefs, I adapt with proper proof.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891248 - 03/01/09 06:02 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Your Destination said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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hpi said:
Pris, I'm a religious man then.

reject religions, regardless of what the disguise themselves as
have faith in yourself and your beliefs

You called science a religion.
I'm not going to reject science because one of their arguments goes against my personal beliefs, I adapt with proper proof.

Yep

I accept science, those are my beliefs. Science is what I believe in.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891256 - 03/01/09 06:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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unretarded said:
You as a athiest may think this way,but the other athiest people have already ruined that for you.

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/trouble_with_atheism.php

"Rod Liddle argues against those who turn to atheism for a rational and moderate approach to today's problems, and says that atheism has high priests and dogmatic beliefs, just like fundamentalist religion."

yeah some of these people are really arrogant because they claim that they know they are right. Which they aren't because they can't prove one doesn't exist. And that one guy was a nut with the sign and that black t-shirt saying that religion should be outlawed....

people should be able to believe whatever they want to believe. I think most atheists probably agree with Richard Dawkins explanations.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891328 - 03/01/09 06:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Opioid said:
do you still wear your dog tags when you're out of the military?

I only wore them when I absolutely had to. After I got out, I threw everything in the garbage. I smashed up some of the things like coins, pins, ribbons, with a hammer before tossing it out. I kept some stuff like the cold weather clothing and boots for when I go camping.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891341 - 03/01/09 06:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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SonicKuz said:
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Opioid said:
do you still wear your dog tags when you're out of the military?

I only wore them when I absolutely had to. After I got out, I threw everything in the garbage. I smashed up some of the things like coins, pins, ribbons, with a hammer before tossing it out. I kept some stuff like the cold weather clothing and boots for when I go camping.

Why did you destroy your memorabilia?

What made your experience so negative?

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891354 - 03/01/09 06:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Your Destination said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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hpi said:
Pris, I'm a religious man then.

reject religions, regardless of what the disguise themselves as
have faith in yourself and your beliefs

You called science a religion.
I'm not going to reject science because one of their arguments goes against my personal beliefs, I adapt with proper proof.

I'm not saying you should, in fact I bet if you really look at
things analytically you'll see parallels between science and
many religions, people are too quick to reject something on the
mention of god or the mention of evolution

theres fraud and deceit from both

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891419 - 03/01/09 06:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

No, theirs no such thing as God.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891435 - 03/01/09 06:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

last time I talked to god, he said he didnt believe in you either

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891458 - 03/01/09 06:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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last time I talked to god, he said he didnt believe in you either

Ouch... All I got was sorry this number has been discontented.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9891495 - 03/01/09 06:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

he must be spending the money on crack, dude is loaded, people give
billions every weekend, they throw parties at his hose all the time

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#9891518 - 03/01/09 06:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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he must be spending the money on crack, dude is loaded, people give
billions every weekend, they throw parties at his hose all the time

And I hear the sex is great...if you like little boys that is....or you get to gang rape little girls for your god. Depended on which god we are talking about of course, there are so many to chose from to start with.

I like the god Thor, he can ban your ass. :thumbup:

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9892085 - 03/01/09 08:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Your Destination said:
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Opioid said:
do you still wear your dog tags when you're out of the military?

I only wore them when I absolutely had to. After I got out, I threw everything in the garbage. I smashed up some of the things like coins, pins, ribbons, with a hammer before tossing it out. I kept some stuff like the cold weather clothing and boots for when I go camping.

Why did you destroy your memorabilia?

What made your experience so negative?

It really was not out of spite. I was tripping, and cleaning out my room. I decided that stuff does not represent me or my ideals. I disagree with the symbols and what they are intended to do to people. One thing that would go through my head is that other troops would insist on wearing stuff like the combat patch and telling me to be proud of it.

I guess one example would be something like a Purple Heart (not that I have one): People recognize that symbol and without thinking, start respecting it. The person wearing it, who might be upset about losing a limb in some battle over their neighbor's property, is reaffirmed into thinking they did the right thing.

I just have a beef with the institution. There are some great people in the military as well as some of the worst people I've ever met. But I view their culture as somehow unhealthy for civil society.

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9892181 - 03/01/09 08:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You could have sent me you're medals.

I woulda worshipped you especially if you took someone out. The more the better!

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Re: Question on the Military

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#9892240 - 03/01/09 09:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You seem crazy enough for the military.

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