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 sirjeth
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 Re: Ascension / The Harvest  [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#9648014 - 01/20/09 09:25 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bloodbath - The Ascension
Edited by sirjeth (01/20/09 09:26 PM)
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: sirjeth]
#9656701 - 01/22/09 03:50 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bloodbath - The Ascension
Now I'm not sure about this  ...
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: Clordio]
#9658685 - 01/22/09 02:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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My understanding and interpretation of the archetypes is more of one that borders on categories of experience that humans attribute to nature and exogenous situations--when in fact our understanding of such "thing(s)" illuminates the working of our own consciousness more so than what is being described or understood... leaving behind a blueprint of our consciousness that is universal to humans, waiting to again be interpreted by another human functioning with similar archetypes. It seems to be circular or fractal when our human mind analyzes another human mind, ironically hoping for some magically un-human output.
Examples of this include folklore and mythology, the content of surrealism and abstract expressionism in art, theater/drama roles, and any other field of interest where our creations of entities resemble and reveal the otherwise unseen systems in our mind.
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: ivander]
#9658785 - 01/22/09 02:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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ivander said:
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sirjeth said:
Bloodbath - The Ascension
Now I'm not sure about this ...
its a death metal song. I quite enjoy the intensity of the album its off though.
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: jivJaN]
#9666588 - 01/23/09 07:19 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr jivjan!! Your words provide great stimulus! I think I can feel it in my spine...
I know what you're talking about and am delighted to see it put into words so eloquently. Makes me want to go out and play...or go in and play, perhaps...
For me it is as if the dreamworld is leaking into the "mundane" consensus reality. More, and more, it appears we can choose our realities by choosing to BELIEVE it is or will be as we imagine/dream.
I like that you call yourself a nutcase. Cuz I find myself owning up to the title more and more. Somehow it seems to take the edge off...Terrence McKenna was certainly on to something.
And the word that pops into my mind most pertaining to my own holy moments is "Yes." "I give in." "Let me see what I can find..."
And though I've accelerated and evolved quite a bit in the 4 years thanks to exploring psychedelics, admittedly I've been lazy about meditation, and feel I'm often wasting my time w/ this or that. Searching for books on metaphysical concepts, when my intuition suggests I may find the most informative library by searching within.
I think perhaps the answer lies in the persistance to push forward, to discover, to create, to play, to weave.
And is it just me, or is it humorous in a ridiculously futile sort of way, that even people who are well read on 2012 and all the prophecies and signs that point towards an end...even these people are still mostly concerned w/ physical survival percautions as preparation for the times ahead. Guns and the like just seem so archaic.
Personally, though I've been lax in the last month, b/c my living situation's been thrown into limbo, I've been trying to focus in on mind-body connections, practicing some of Houston and Masters' Mindgames (as in their book), yoga, tai-chi, and some Shaolin. Dreamwork's been a goal of mine as well...to be able to delve into the dreamworld for adventures and retrieval of cosmic information.
The key seems to be keeping your eye on the ever-unattainable prize.
I'd also like to note that there is something magickal about sacred geometry that serves as a key to unlocking certain truths. I've taken to freehand drawing ever-more elaborate geometrical figures these days, because it really is as if you are discovering buried treasure the more and more the lines form.
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: Cosmosis]
#9674007 - 01/25/09 01:48 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lady Cosmosis
Thank you for the word of reassurance.
Its always good to be supported by fellow nutcases.
Your reply basically covers the most important aspects i could never put into a small post.
Words seem to push me into a paranoia sometimes ,that there is still something unsaid .. unexplained properly. And these glitches end up being exploited as "evidence" against the story.
And im not even trying to prove anything. I just like wondering..
Its all we can do for now..
Even though i would agree that there is no grand puzzle we can piece together .. there are keys to unlocking maybe one step ahead.
I also agree that the anxiety towards death in these coming times , although understandable seems a little contradictory to the core of these spiritual teachings.
I too would stress most importance on the dreaming factor.
Maybe a couple days ago.. i had a dream where i was walking down the stairs in some building with two other guys ive never met. It didnt take me long to realize i was dreaming.. it usually doesnt. So i looked at one of these dudes and said : you know this is a dream .. right ?
he replied : REALLY ?!?!?!?
he was shocked !
the other guy didnt buy it. So i said : i can fly .. do you want me to show you ?
They just turned around and carried down the stairs into a basement of some sorts where they decided to shoot up heroin ?
didnt like that.. so i took off.
Kind of a random story right there , but i just wanted to explain what kind of dreams i am having lately and almost always i am communicating with someone , and the significance of it is revealed later on. I believe that the collective un/sub-conscious is presenting itself in a new way , at a very rapid pace. I have never had so many people talking about the weird dreams they have been having lately...
And most of these people are not in any way related to these kind of discussions , nor do they indulge in the same "fun" we do around hyaah.
They dont know what to make of it.. and i just kick back and smile  Its happening !
As for the sacred geometry.. i believe this is where the entire story starts
Absolutely crucial to understanding some of these concepts IMO.
Thanks again
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
Edited by jivJaN (01/25/09 06:15 AM)
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: jivJaN]
#9674276 - 01/25/09 03:25 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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teehee, why is it that being mis-identified gender-wise, even just on the net creates some sort of knee-jerk reaction..."Someone thinks I'm a man, how absurd!"
But in the end, words hold only as much meaning as we give them.
Anyway, yeah, just recently it's come to my attention that a lot of avg people are suddenly having bursts of wacky dreams. And I've just had a surge increase in dream retrieval, myself...having started to get paranoid about perhaps energy waves being put out that may serve in suppressing dreams/dream memory...b/c usually I've always been able to remmeber dreams pretty easily, and they're often of a kooky/outlandish nature.
I think I'll post a UFO dream I had sometime right before the election, that seemed quite poignant...
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: Cosmosis]
#9674635 - 01/25/09 06:27 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive edited my post.
Please forgive me ?
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: jivJaN]
#9682788 - 01/26/09 04:07 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought this thread would be a good place to share a dream I had last night.
I remember very little of the dream, but I think the important part stayed with me. I was in a sort of flat top vehicle with a few others. We were in pursuit of some type of stone, about 6 inches wide. A truck in front of us had the stone. Eventually my convey caught up and retrieved the stone, which once I got my hand on flew a few feet high up in the air, and radiated power and energy. I woke up with a word in my mind: "Philosophers Stone".
Now I must mention I came came across this item before, a few years back in a video game. I didn't know why my higher self made the point to so strongly push this idea into my head.
Doing a little research today I will leave you with this from crystal links.
The [Philosophers] Stone as a Spiritual Metaphor:
"Alchemy has always made extensive use of analogy, symbolism, and so forth to relate chemical and physical concepts to esoteric and mystic ones. In some epochs and contexts, these metaphysical aspects came to predominate, and the chemical processes were then viewed as mere symbols of spiritual processes.
In this hermetic side of alchemy, the "philosopher's stone", supposed to to be the most tangible and dense crystalization or condensation of a subtle substance, became a metaphor for an inner potential of the spirit and reason to evolve from a lower state of imperfection and vice (symbolized by the base metals) to a higher state of enlightenment and perfection (symbolized by gold). In this view, spiritual elevation, the transmutation of metals, and the purification and rejuvenation of the body were seen to be manifestations of the same concept.
The mystical revival in the late 20th century renovated the public interest on alchemy, and particularly on this metaphysical and philosophical conception of the philosopher's stone - which is now subscribed by many people, especially within several New Age movements."
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The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant, and has forgotten the gift. - Albert Einstein
    
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: jivJaN]
#9682814 - 01/26/09 04:11 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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All the tarot cards from that particular set coorelate to a zodiac sign, for example, mine to XV.
As I understand the archetypes also coorelate to gods of various pantheons as well as positions in the tree of life itself(as has been mentioned before).
As I understand; to ascend is to be the flawless embodiement of that archetype (or as other traditions would call it; supersoul, christself, godhead).'
"The harvest" as in harvest of souls was always a notion that scared me after a profound psychedellic experience. I had believed I was witnessing it happen and this happened IMMEDIATLEY after ascenscion of true self into my earthly body.
Edited by MisterMuscaria (01/26/09 04:19 PM)
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jivJaN
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MisterMuscaria said:
All the tarot cards from that particular set coorelate to a zodiac sign, for example, mine to XV.
As I understand the archetypes also coorelate to gods of various pantheons as well as positions in the tree of life itself(as has been mentioned before).
As I understand; to ascend is to be the flawless embodiement of that archetype (or as other traditions would call it; supersoul, christself, godhead).'
"The harvest" as in harvest of souls was always a notion that scared me after a profound psychedellic experience. I had believed I was witnessing it happen and this happened IMMEDIATLEY after ascenscion of true self into my earthly body.
No one needs to be flawless...
Such a thing does not exist.
All it really takes is being slightly more oriented towards helping others.
You can be 49 % "EVIL" (david wilcocks words) he can be a goofy mf sometimes..
Also.. the harvest is from each density to a higher one. Doesnt happen only once.
To be a self conscious being , that would mean that at some point you were harvested from 2nd to 3rd density.
I would like to hear more about your experience if you feel like giving some more details..
I didnt quite get the last part
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: jivJaN]
#9683078 - 01/26/09 04:54 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would explain it a little better. It was a very bewildering thing. I had a complete trip report in my journal but deleted it from here and saved it to a notepad. Ill send it to you in a PM. My body/energy arent as heavy as they were before it all happened. I deffinatley feel more attuned to the energies even now. I could never go back to the way I was before it. I can pretend that I am the way I was before it, but it is only pretending. Ive realized enough that I cant go back to being that blind.
Going back to how I was would be similar to realizing that I was poisoning people's food(after being mislead to do so), takeing a break from it and then going back to poisoning people's food.
Edited by MisterMuscaria (01/26/09 04:58 PM)
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Thank you for your ideas, and for not trying to sell them. I've been contemplating the purpose of past and future existence for about a year and a half. I cant really remember what suddenly made me so curious about why i was alive, but i do know that around that time in my life i was taking a lot of acid. I researched on the internet for a bit and decided that my focus should be on lucid dreaming. From there i discovered meditation. I had always known about meditation but it never really clicked until that moment. Meditation has made me realize how much fun my subconscious is and how boring pretty much everything else is. Anyways, throughout this search for the "truth" I've found myself at a stalemate. My problem is that this world is filled with people trying to influence the things we do. So, are we supposed to influence others with explanations for why we think and act the way we do, or to just lead by example and hope it leads people down the same path?
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: mycould]
#9700679 - 01/29/09 05:51 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well.. this is my take on that situation.
Free will is a notion i give the most importance. Therefore influencing others in any way would be the perpetuation of the cyclic nature of manipulation. No matter what my intentions actually are.
To lead by example .. yes .. but by demonstrating love and compassion for the fellow man.
You know .. some people have no idea whats going on.
And they would probably say the same for us
Its all a matter of perception and in the end tolerance plays a big role.
If we go around telling people they got it all wrong , we would be no different than the next bully out there.
I believe the change is occurring. And there aint a damn thing any of us can do about it , unless you got a ticket to another solar system
Soon enough people will start asking questions...
If they are directed our way... we might just have an answer. "Time" will tell .
This is not to say that values we believe in should not be defended even now.
I am very protective when it comes to children , animals and nature in general.
You should not see your self as being in a stalemate..
A fairly disharmonious environment such as this one on our planet .. can produce disharmony within yourself. And by giving in .. you do no good for the planet or its inhabitants. These natural catastrophes weve been having at an increasing rate is precisely because we are not in harmony with the planets vibration and the in-streaming energies from the galactic center.
I do agree it can be hard to find that spot of joy and peace within you , when the outside is pulling you back constantly..
This is where integrity kicks in..
I love you .. but i will not be manipulated. This might even be the biggest task..
Shaking off fear.. insecurity.. doubt..
I dont hope that people will follow my path.
We are all on our own path.
But it seems like were all starting to walk towards that shimmery light in the distance..
And im just so god damn excited about the times ahead.
I think its a real privilege to be here now..
People usually get depressed when they have nothing to look forward to..
But we have something to look forward to now.
Just stay positive
Sounds corny .. and overused.. but its true.
I feel like im going to a huge galactic rave.. im just working on my dance moves !
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: jivJaN]
#9700724 - 01/29/09 05:57 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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You hit the nail in the head with that one! 
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#9700988 - 01/29/09 06:47 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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gracias
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: Ascension / The Harvest [Re: jivJaN]
#9706780 - 01/30/09 06:47 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
jivJaN said:
Well.. this is my take on that situation.
Free will is a notion i give the most importance. Therefore influencing others in any way would be the perpetuation of the cyclic nature of manipulation. No matter what my intentions actually are.
To lead by example .. yes .. but by demonstrating love and compassion for the fellow man.
You know .. some people have no idea whats going on.
And they would probably say the same for us
Its all a matter of perception and in the end tolerance plays a big role.
If we go around telling people they got it all wrong , we would be no different than the next bully out there.
I believe the change is occurring. And there aint a damn thing any of us can do about it , unless you got a ticket to another solar system
Soon enough people will start asking questions...
If they are directed our way... we might just have an answer. "Time" will tell .
This is not to say that values we believe in should not be defended even now.
I am very protective when it comes to children , animals and nature in general.
You should not see your self as being in a stalemate..
A fairly disharmonious environment such as this one on our planet .. can produce disharmony within yourself. And by giving in .. you do no good for the planet or its inhabitants. These natural catastrophes weve been having at an increasing rate is precisely because we are not in harmony with the planets vibration and the in-streaming energies from the galactic center.
I do agree it can be hard to find that spot of joy and peace within you , when the outside is pulling you back constantly..
This is where integrity kicks in..
I love you .. but i will not be manipulated. This might even be the biggest task..
Shaking off fear.. insecurity.. doubt..
I dont hope that people will follow my path.
We are all on our own path.
But it seems like were all starting to walk towards that shimmery light in the distance..
And im just so god damn excited about the times ahead.
I think its a real privilege to be here now..
People usually get depressed when they have nothing to look forward to..
But we have something to look forward to now.
Just stay positive
Sounds corny .. and overused.. but its true.
I feel like im going to a huge galactic rave.. im just working on my dance moves !
I love your inspiring words.
Just be mindful that practicing compassion and refraining from interference with free will are but one path among many. All paths still lead to ascension; some with a motif of Power and some with a motif of Love.
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