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Spice gold, unexpected side effect.
#9546233 - 01/04/09 09:17 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Apparently, as I was described today, my experience with spice gold last night seemed to completely destroy my short term memory while under the influence.
I, or course, don't remember anything from the night, but my g/f told me that I seemed unable to hold on to a memory for more than a few minutes. One example was a conversation we had about being hungry so she offered to go to the store, no sooner did I watch her leave and walk into the other room, I walked back out and completely forgot where she went. I called her right away and she told me that she was on her way to the store, like we had just discussed. Then, shortly after hanging up, I'd forgotten where she was again, and called back, again. She was unable to pick up her phone, so after a few trys I left a rather angry voicemail, only to find out when she got home that I was acting like an idiot.
Over the course of the night, I'm told that this behavior continued, including restarting a movie three times and never being able to finish it. I would blame it on drinking too much, but she said I only had 4 drinks between 8pm-2am, so I'd definitely say it's something with the jwh-018.
It may be legal, but here's one reason it doesn't hold a candle to good old cannabis. If I was just chilling by myself for the night, I would never have known a real difference. But, having someone to recollect my experimenting has me thinking that this particular cannabinoid might not be very safe. Hard to tell, I'll probably repeat the experience in the future, as long as I'm not in the company of someone else whom I'll end up annoying, but I would prefer just to get some cheap middy's as opposed to buying more of this shit.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9546240 - 01/04/09 09:18 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats freaky shit
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9546259 - 01/04/09 09:20 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I noticed a difference in my short term memory in the days after i used it. I seemed to get more mental blanks than usual.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: Atheist]
#9546260 - 01/04/09 09:20 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like Xanax Weed!
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: Atheist]
#9546263 - 01/04/09 09:20 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm glad I had someone to notice what was going on, because I would never have been able to piece it together on my own. Especially because the next day, most of the memories are gone anyways.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9546293 - 01/04/09 09:24 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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damn sounds like i need to try some of this stuff
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: boxcarguy07]
#9546326 - 01/04/09 09:28 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know the feeling. I had it to the extent that i couldnt really form a conscious line of thought. lasted until mid the next day.
I hate that spice shit... give me the good old green anyday
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9546328 - 01/04/09 09:28 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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how does it taste when smoked?
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: xyz789]
#9546354 - 01/04/09 09:32 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, not great. Kind of a dry harsh smoke, doesn't make you cough like MJ though. I would take good old MJ any day over this shit, and I'm going to discontinue use as I think that this could cause some pretty bad problems with short term memory with regular use.
I'll keep it as a novelty, but I can't see smoking it again for quite a while. Especially if I'm going to be around anyone.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9546368 - 01/04/09 09:34 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
tpihkal said: Especially if I'm going to be around anyone.
what if they're smoking it too? They wouldn't be able to remember you acting like an idiot!
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: boxcarguy07]
#9546426 - 01/04/09 09:40 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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You think spice gold is bad... man, you don't even want to TOUCH chillin xxx. We all smoked it on the way to Dallas today, and man, one of the girls in the car had a full out panic attack and passed out. It just made me mellow as fuck.
I love it
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: supernovasky]
#9546438 - 01/04/09 09:42 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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panic attack off a legal herb?
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: xyz789]
#9546452 - 01/04/09 09:44 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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this isn't normal legal herb, it's legal herb with a cannabinoid, and it's just as strong as real bud. Just different.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9546471 - 01/04/09 09:47 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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i was referring to chillin xxx
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: xyz789]
#9546508 - 01/04/09 09:50 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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That sounds kind of shitty. Interfering with your cognitive abilities like that can't be healthy.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: jazzillion]
#9546744 - 01/04/09 10:16 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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My friend smokes this shit (I've tried it too...once), and he acts like a complete fool and gets annoying as fuck (like your experience). So, just lettin' ya know, you're not the only one.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: Munkey106]
#9547095 - 01/04/09 10:57 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha that sounds exactly like when I just smoke too much bud and this dude brought over a joint and apparently was spice gold and I could not remember a damn thing, of course, neither could he. I don't even know what our conversations were like..
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: feifen]
#9547640 - 01/05/09 12:12 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dudes, WTF is spice gold? Am I missing something or WTF? If it's a plant, what's it's scientific name? Is it just good pot or what?
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It's an herbal smoke blend that's still legal.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: Newbie]
#9547675 - 01/05/09 12:17 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Strange, alright apparently it's a mixture of:
Baybean Blue Lotus Lion's Tail Lousewort Indian Warrior Dwarf Scullcap Maconha Brava Pink Lotus Marshmallow Red Clover Rose Siberian Motherwort Vanilla Honey Fly Agaric
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hmm, i smoked about 7 grams of spice and another 3.5 grams of chillin xxx when i was workign at a place i was getting drug tested. I liked it since it doesn't make you fail a drug test. It also lasts much longer than weed, almost too long at times. I did notice if i smoked a lot the night before I would have a very odd hangover the next day, where even if i got good rest, i felt exhausted all day long, all the way until i slept again.
I never noticed if i had this memory problem or not, neither did anyone else...I smoked this stuff over a year ago though, before this was all known.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: supra]
#9547799 - 01/05/09 12:32 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still haven't got my hands on any to say for myself, but I'd definitely give it a go. I haven't seen it at head shops near me at all.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: thekwazz]
#9548009 - 01/05/09 01:01 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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what an incredibly bizarre story. so they were adding the cananbiod without telling people?
pretty fucked up. i hope in Europe you can sue the shit out of someone for that.
yeah too weird...
i never messed around with the legal highs because taking 8 different drugs that get you midly high and mixing them hoping to get somewhat high seems like a pretty bad idea.
strange interactions and all that.
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thats not the first time ive heard that of jwh-018 ...
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9559135 - 01/06/09 07:48 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spice Gold and Diamond causes memory loss, depression and other mental problems. I also noticed that it modifies my emotional well-being(crying without real motives, etc). I smoked over 20 packs of 3g. They lie that is contains only plants, in fact it contains a synthetic substance related to THC that is not properly tested on humans. 1 pack won't do u harm, but if u smoke at a regular basis i assure you that sooner or later YOU WILL HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: taokhan]
#9559269 - 01/06/09 08:07 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I should have added that i am a doctor.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: taokhan]
#9559310 - 01/06/09 08:13 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eh... I think you guys are freaking out over spice gold. I smoke it on a regular basis, and I haven't had any major problems... The smoke is a little harsher, and my lungs health isn't as good as when I smoked weed, but it isn't horrible either. *Shrugs*
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: supernovasky]
#9559680 - 01/06/09 09:10 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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can u vape spice gold?
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: xyz789]
#9559709 - 01/06/09 09:14 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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i got this the other night just smoking maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad bud ahahahahaha
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: igwna]
#9559728 - 01/06/09 09:16 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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the fuck?
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: xyz789]
#9559755 - 01/06/09 09:19 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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right uh.. i meant i got the unexpected side effect he got
(extreme memory loss)
from smoking a lot of bud two nights ago (or three?)
i forgot to reply to the right person.
WOOPS
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: supernovasky]
#9560575 - 01/06/09 11:13 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
supernovasky said: Chillin xxx FTW. It has saved me from probationary woes.
QFT
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: supernovasky]
#9564832 - 01/07/09 04:20 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man just stop smoking spice (or weed) for 2 weeks and see how you feel.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: taokhan]
#9564867 - 01/07/09 04:27 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just ordered some spice diamond. Looks like I'm gonna have to take it easy with that shit.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: taokhan]
#9565708 - 01/07/09 06:26 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
taokhan said: Man just stop smoking spice (or weed) for 2 weeks and see how you feel.

Oh wait... was that serious? PFFT.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: taokhan]
#9565748 - 01/07/09 06:31 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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whaa? I don't see that happening with MJ, I quit for about a year, cold turkey, and never noticed anything was up. I'd smoke regularly again if I could afford it, but that's just not an option anymore.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9593520 - 01/12/09 08:45 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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it happens only on spice, not on weed
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: taokhan]
#9593554 - 01/12/09 09:02 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where are some good websites to buy Spice gold for cheap?
Any ideas?
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#9623684 - 01/17/09 12:05 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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that's fucking awesome.
I mean your experience sucked. But what an interesting thing to learn about short term memory.
This kind of experience could have research implications. Do you mind if I snag your report for my neurologic research dump? Do you have any updates about your experience? Has your mental state returned to normal?
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I am currently living in Europe (biosmoke comes from Spain) not too far from where spice, etc are sent from and I just have one small comment. Here in Europe, they rarely smoke anything pure (except in Amsterdam where you have the choice.) It is always mixed with tobacco. I don't like this mixture when its cannabis but with hash or biosmoke it's better. Just to say that I don't think that spice is meant to be smoked pure. This could explain the side effects cause I have never noticed any of those side effect (except a headache if we smoke all night but I think it's more due to a mix with alcohol and dehydration than with the herb mix) and I have been smoking it (spice, gorilla, mojo, etc) for awhile. So just a comment, hope this helps.
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Spice gold, do not underestimate that shit [Re: tpihkal]
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Last night i tried that shit out... i heard it was actually 4 times stronger than weed and that it has more reported negative side effects. Anyways, i used a pipe with my friends, i took two drags and nothing happeened. then i took like fuckin 6 more and HOLY FUCK. I tripped out like lasdfjalkdjflaaskffffff;dkfj. at first everything was funny. time went slower, people were talking and moving slower and it was fun. my friend sprayed deo and i saw it in slow motion.
THEN things started fucking up badly. everyone started moving fast and talking fast like i fast forwarded my life. and everything i did seemed fast as well. i was like oh shit shithihsiht and my friends were laughing but i was serious. then i told them to feel my heart and it was going FUCKING FAST. they told me to take off my shirt, i did (felt like i took it off in 0.5 seconds) and my chest was bulging out cuz of my heart. it was like spasing out. it was unreal. people were still moving so fast adn talking so fast it drove me crazyyyy.
then i had two phases.
the first- my body was warm but my skin felt cold, like menthol. and i was shivering and i couldnt talk. when my firends talked it made me go even crazier cuz it osunded like chipmunks. so told them to shut up and turn off the lights while i laid down on the bed. after a while i started to tense up and then came phase 2
phase 2 was fuckin nuts aswell. i couldnt move my body, it felt like sleep paralysis. and i couldnt talk because i couldnt move my mouth, i sounded like an actual retard. i was still able to think though. anyways, i tried moving my wrists but it wouldnt even budge. it felt like my bones would break if i did and i cramped up everytime. i got this electric shock like tingle starting from my feet and it slowly crept up my body to my head. when the shock was around the heart i thought i was guna die. and when it went to my head i thought i was gonna pass out and shut down my brain.
the phases went on three cycles, and it took me 2 hourse to recover and 4 to fully recover.
WORST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE.
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Re: Spice gold, do not underestimate that shit [Re: bambambam]
#10282465 - 05/04/09 08:56 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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you gotta have one bucket bong of that shit.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#13101088 - 08/25/10 06:01 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just wanted to contribute to this thread about the spice products...I've been smoking Spice Diamond for a few months with a couple of my friends and have had no problems at all. I only weigh 103 lb and I am a female so drugs have a greater and faster effect on me. So one might expect that if anyone were to have a problem with a drug and/or research chemical, it would be me.
But nope! Not thus far. I like Spice Diamond...same effects as weed, except for me it doesn't really last as long. A lot of people actually say it lasts longer than weed...I wish that was the case for me.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: Jahcoozi]
#13101168 - 08/25/10 06:19 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I smoke pure jwh 018 powder very frequently. I had run out until a few days ago and I got more and have been high 24/7 except for sleeping for 3 days. The shit definitely fucks with your short term memory bad like the OP says. It gets me higher than any weed on earth ever could hit for hit but when you cross a certain line it turns sinister and makes you think you are going to die. You gain a tolerance fast though if you smoke a lot of it and then its not as common to freak out. Im very high on it as we speak along with smoking a bowl of realy good dank and I honestly like the jwh better
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: Jahcoozi]
#13101383 - 08/25/10 07:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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WHAT!?!?!?!?
Finally, some solid year long research.
I'm glad someone waited this long to inform us it's ok.
I'm gonna finally go try it, thanks man.
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Quote:
PeterGriffin467 said: Im very high on it as we speak along with smoking a bowl of realy good dank and I honestly like the jwh better
Really? JWH is pretty good, but I very much prefer weed.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: ToiletDuk]
#13101945 - 08/25/10 09:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i like weed better i suppose but I love how I can get super stoned of 1 little hit of jwh powder and it costs a couple cents.
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That shit gives me wicked bad constipation. Not worth it.
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Re: Spice gold, do not underestimate that shit [Re: bambambam]
#13102557 - 08/25/10 11:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow, bambambam's story is fucking intense...
I'd never smoke j-dub, main reason is it's not really tested... second reason is that there's weed fucking everywhere, and cheap, lol.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#13102747 - 08/25/10 11:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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tpihkal said: Apparently, as I was described today, my experience with spice gold last night seemed to completely destroy my short term memory while under the influence.
I, or course, don't remember anything from the night, but my g/f told me that I seemed unable to hold on to a memory for more than a few minutes. One example was a conversation we had about being hungry so she offered to go to the store, no sooner did I watch her leave and walk into the other room, I walked back out and completely forgot where she went. I called her right away and she told me that she was on her way to the store, like we had just discussed. Then, shortly after hanging up, I'd forgotten where she was again, and called back, again. She was unable to pick up her phone, so after a few trys I left a rather angry voicemail, only to find out when she got home that I was acting like an idiot.
Over the course of the night, I'm told that this behavior continued, including restarting a movie three times and never being able to finish it. I would blame it on drinking too much, but she said I only had 4 drinks between 8pm-2am, so I'd definitely say it's something with the jwh-018.
It may be legal, but here's one reason it doesn't hold a candle to good old cannabis. If I was just chilling by myself for the night, I would never have known a real difference. But, having someone to recollect my experimenting has me thinking that this particular cannabinoid might not be very safe. Hard to tell, I'll probably repeat the experience in the future, as long as I'm not in the company of someone else whom I'll end up annoying, but I would prefer just to get some cheap middy's as opposed to buying more of this shit.
When i first started to smoke weed, for probably the first 6 months or so...I would get experiences like this.
My short term memory would be absolutely fucked. To the point that i couldn't even talk because as soon as the words would start to come out of my mouth i would forget what i was even going to say......Along with extreme time dilation, mild OEVs, and intricate CEVs.
Considering that JWH-018 is many times stronger than THC & other natural cannabinoids, i'd say that you were just incredibly stoned ...Same thing will occur if ya smoke enough weed...

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Re: Spice gold, do not underestimate that shit [Re: Brugman]
#13104366 - 08/26/10 10:32 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Weed is not cheap compared to jwh 018 at all. I got a 300mg sample of it to hold me over till I could get a few grams and Ive been high 24/7 for 4 days and have only smoked half of it.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: taokhan]
#13104418 - 08/26/10 10:57 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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taokhan said: Spice Gold and Diamond causes memory loss, depression and other mental problems. I also noticed that it modifies my emotional well-being(crying without real motives, etc). I smoked over 20 packs of 3g. They lie that is contains only plants, in fact it contains a synthetic substance related to THC that is not properly tested on humans. 1 pack won't do u harm, but if u smoke at a regular basis i assure you that sooner or later YOU WILL HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS.
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Re: Spice gold, do not underestimate that shit [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#13104427 - 08/26/10 10:59 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP,
The same thing happened to me when I smoked a bunch of BHO. I was taking HUGE dabs and by then end of the night my short term memory was pretty much gone.
I would forget what I was talking about mid sentence, had anxiety, walked into other rooms and would forget why, etc. I knew I was just high as fuck and laughed it off.
The anxiety go to me eventually and I just laid down and chilled.
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: openmind]
#13116715 - 08/28/10 11:48 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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openmind said:
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tpihkal said: Apparently, as I was described today, my experience with spice gold last night seemed to completely destroy my short term memory while under the influence.
I, or course, don't remember anything from the night, but my g/f told me that I seemed unable to hold on to a memory for more than a few minutes. One example was a conversation we had about being hungry so she offered to go to the store, no sooner did I watch her leave and walk into the other room, I walked back out and completely forgot where she went. I called her right away and she told me that she was on her way to the store, like we had just discussed. Then, shortly after hanging up, I'd forgotten where she was again, and called back, again. She was unable to pick up her phone, so after a few trys I left a rather angry voicemail, only to find out when she got home that I was acting like an idiot.
Over the course of the night, I'm told that this behavior continued, including restarting a movie three times and never being able to finish it. I would blame it on drinking too much, but she said I only had 4 drinks between 8pm-2am, so I'd definitely say it's something with the jwh-018.
It may be legal, but here's one reason it doesn't hold a candle to good old cannabis. If I was just chilling by myself for the night, I would never have known a real difference. But, having someone to recollect my experimenting has me thinking that this particular cannabinoid might not be very safe. Hard to tell, I'll probably repeat the experience in the future, as long as I'm not in the company of someone else whom I'll end up annoying, but I would prefer just to get some cheap middy's as opposed to buying more of this shit.
When i first started to smoke weed, for probably the first 6 months or so...I would get experiences like this.
My short term memory would be absolutely fucked. To the point that i couldn't even talk because as soon as the words would start to come out of my mouth i would forget what i was even going to say......Along with extreme time dilation, mild OEVs, and intricate CEVs.
Considering that JWH-018 is many times stronger than THC & other natural cannabinoids, i'd say that you were just incredibly stoned ...Same thing will occur if ya smoke enough weed...

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It's been quite a while since then and I'm a regular stoner now, so I'd have to say you're probably right, I believe my negative experience was probably related more to tolerance than a valid side effect. I don't smoke jwh now and probably won't again, but I'm much less worried of it's effects at this point. Rule of thumb though, jwh works at very small levels and needs (like most chemicals) to be treated with a great deal of respect
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#13116718 - 08/28/10 11:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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FUCK
I WANNA GET FCUKING STONED
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Re: Spice gold, unexpected side effect. [Re: tpihkal]
#13116719 - 08/28/10 11:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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It amuses me that this thread keeps randomly popping up btw
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Re: Spice gold, do not underestimate that shit [Re: bambambam]
#13116724 - 08/28/10 11:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I love it when that happens. I tripped out a few weeks ago after doing about 75 mg in 3 vapes of JWH-018, 250, and WIN-55
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Re: Spice gold, do not underestimate that shit [Re: starfire_xes]
#13117019 - 08/29/10 01:18 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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SWIM used to get spice gold, but found the mental blanks annoying as SWIM is a very organised (bordering OCD!) person. Spice arctic synergy or diamond doesn't give you the monginess the next day.
SWIM prefer spice to some of the crap MJ i keep getting. Tastes nice and smooth and helps with insomnia
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