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Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite
    #9447773 - 12/17/08 02:10 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite
December 16, 2008 - CBS News

In the past few years, Mexico has become one of the most dangerous places on earth. Drug gangs have killed more than 5,000 people this year - more than the entire American death toll in Iraq. Tuesday, the Justice Department declared Mexico's drug cartels have become the biggest organized crime threat to the United States.
 


The sound of a country in crisis includes the cries of a woman wailing upon finding husband dead in cab of truck. The United States' southern neighbor is in the throes of a drug war - one that's growing more savage every day as the brutally aggressive Sinaloa Cartel muscles in on territory controlled by the Arellano-Felix, the Juarez and Gulf Cartels for control of lucrative routes for smuggling marijuana, cocaine and amphetamines into the United States - a $14 billion a year illegal trade.

The drug traffickers are more reckless and ruthless than ever. A group of terrified school children were caught in the crossfire of a three-hour shootout on the streets of Tijuana. In Juarez, a crime reporter was shot to death, the fifth Mexican journalist silenced this year.

Bill Gore has witnessed the carnage, first as the FBI Special Agent in Charge in San Diego, now as the county's undersheriff. He says American drug users should realize they have blood on their hands.

"This is not a victimless crime," Gore said. "That people are dying, literally hundreds of them, on the streets of Tijuana, so they can have their recreational drugs on this side of the border."

The most extreme violence is just south of the border - nowhere worse than Juarez, across the Rio Grande from El Paso. There have been 16 murders in El Paso this year and almost 1,500 drug-related killings in Juarez.

One grisly new tactic is beheadings. A headless corpse hung above a busy highway almost two hours before police covered it with a sheet - the head found in a nearby park.

In Tijuana, nine men were decapitated last month, three of them policemen, their badges stuck in their mouths - some of the 40 murders in Tijuana occurred in just one weekend.

It is a bloody war fueled by a high-powered arsenal of weapons, most smuggled in from the United States.

The gun violence is fueling a boom in the security business. Gabriel Martin turns cars into tanks with armor plating, bullet-proof glass. Of one car he says: "An AR-15 with armor-piercing nose could not get through that."

And there's a long waiting list of people anxious to pay from $30,000 to $90,000 to outfit cars with James Bond-like smoke screens and nails to puncture pursuers' tires.

"As crime rises it seems like the business grows," Martin said. "People are scared to be kidnapped."

The current FBI Agent in Charge in San Diego says gangland kidnappings, common in Mexico as a secondary source of cartel income, are becoming common there.

"The violence is absolutely spilling across into the United States," said FBI agent Keith Slotter said.

About 40 San Diego residents were kidnapped in Mexico this year - double the number three years ago. Many more go unreported.

"Normally, the kidnappers have done, we believe, extensive research ahead of time," Slotter said. "They have a good, a solid background on a person's financial means."

They kidnapped one woman's husband, an American with businesses in Tijuana. They demanded $2 million. She's afraid to reveal her identity.

"I had to sell my business. I had to sell property. Anything to get back my husband," the woman said. "There was no need for them to kill my husband."

Ironically, this orgy of violence erupted after Mexican president Felipe Calderon declared war on the cartels last year, dispatching 40,000 troops and federal police to cities under siege. They've killed or captured scores of drug kingpins.

Authorities call this a success, though a fierce gun battle raged in the middle of the city for almost an hour. In the end, the federal police and the military took custody the most wanted chief of the Tijuana drug cartel.

With the arrest of Eduardo Arellano-Felix, the once powerful cartel is in disarray. The unintended consequence of success: a bloodbath, as the next generation of gangsters battles for dominance.

"We cannot live with that kind of intimidation, with that kind of terror on our streets," said Jorge Ramos, the Mayor of Tijuana.

So the mayor of Tijuana last week tapped former army Lt. Colonel, Julian Leyzaola, to run the city's police department.

He promises to take back the streets.

"Even in war you don't see what you see here," he said through a translator. "People whose heads are cut off, people who are dissolved in acid. If the cartels only understand the language of violence, then we are going to have to speak in their language ... and annihilate them."

In other words, fight cartel violence with superior violence: the coordinated power the police and military. As the government fights to get the upper hand, there's likely to be more blood in the streets.

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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: veggie]
    #9447812 - 12/17/08 02:19 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

o my gawd!


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: veggie]
    #9447834 - 12/17/08 02:24 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

Those jackasses said I have blood on my hands. There is always going to be a market in the US. Even if EVERY current drug user quits there will be more to take their place.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: MHbound]
    #9448249 - 12/17/08 04:30 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Can't they see the drug war feeds on itself? This type of violence would vanish if methheads could get their shit at the cornerstore.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: BlindSophist]
    #9448265 - 12/17/08 04:37 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

no u dont want them to buy it at a store
u should only allow it to be shipped from the manufacturer


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: Coaster]
    #9448290 - 12/17/08 04:46 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Either way, better than now. I can't believe how hardheaded the authorities are being about this when it's causing so many innocents to suffer. It's like they don't even think about it.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: BlindSophist]
    #9448299 - 12/17/08 04:48 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

they are stubborn.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: Coaster]
    #9448381 - 12/17/08 05:21 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Wow...Blood on our hands. Hmmm look in the mirror you assclown. You are the one that declared the war on drugs not us. Declare a war and then blame us for the casualties that show up on your door step.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: dcox420]
    #9448397 - 12/17/08 05:25 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

they should have declared a secret war
that would have been smart
the element of surprise is the best tactic
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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: Coaster]
    #9448632 - 12/17/08 08:05 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Once again, this is disgusting...

I'd love for the fucking cocaine junkies to stop and think for a second how much blood is on their hands, sorry guys but its no longer a question about legalizing it, the drug has been corrupted by the actions of many.

Crack heads and junkies who will do anything for their hit, free basers...god this is just sick.

Legalize it? fuck it, wipe it out.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: HybridprX]
    #9448902 - 12/17/08 10:20 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Once again, this is disgusting...

I'd love for the fucking cocaine junkies to stop and think for a second how much blood is on their hands, sorry guys but its no longer a question about legalizing it, the drug has been corrupted by the actions of many.

Crack heads and junkies who will do anything for their hit, free basers...god this is just sick.

Legalize it? fuck it, wipe it out.






That is exactly what is already happening. You sound like a fucking fed. I agree that the drugs you just mentioned are terrible and would never use them myself, but there will always be people wanting this shit. You can never wipe it out. Look at LSD. All the ingredients to make it are tightly regulated, but people out there are still making it. LEGALIZE! They have had great success in Britain with the legalization of herion for hardcore junkies. They don't have to rob and steal, they go get their government heroin then go to work like you and I.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: shamandustin]
    #9448942 - 12/17/08 10:37 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

After all these years, all those billions of dollars wasted and thousands of lives lost, they still think that if they just try reducing demand a little harder it'll finally work.  They still think the right funding or education will cause all American drug users to stop.  I don't know how many more years of anarchy and disgusting violence these people will bear until they figure out the only logical thing is to regulate.

On an unrelated note, I watched that toad-like reporter Lou Dobbs last night and he mentioned that Mexico was the biggest supplier of drugs to the US, not just coke and stuff but pot as well, but how the hell would they know that?  Somehow I think the amount grown domestically is at least equal to the bricked up brown garbage that they throw over the border.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: shamandustin]
    #9448944 - 12/17/08 10:38 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe he's referring to not wipe out the drugs..but wipe out you!


The futility of the human race is evident. We the people are a useless mass of earth; "breathing, thinking, functioning" can be seen at a brand new frontier when placed in front of the unconscious corruption of "most" of the human population[the average person, though inherently good, are corrupted by the things set in place in today's society, sex, Gucci, DRUGS!!!! merely too weak(as am I i luv droogz) ... a.k.a. very unBuddhist.


Mother nature's response will be harsh, I deem that; sooner or later the imbalance of nature will respond.



I have no place and heart for our blight situation, there surely is some lesson God has given us. I would die a million lives to not hear the screaming anymore....


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: dead4spread20]
    #9449075 - 12/17/08 11:21 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Maybe he's referring to not wipe out the drugs..but wipe out you!


The futility of the human race is evident. We the people are a useless mass of earth; "breathing, thinking, functioning" can be seen at a brand new frontier when placed in front of the unconscious corruption of "most" of the human population[the average person, though inherently good, are corrupted by the things set in place in today's society, sex, Gucci, DRUGS!!!! merely too weak(as am I i luv droogz) ... a.k.a. very unBuddhist.


Mother nature's response will be harsh, I deem that; sooner or later the imbalance of nature will respond.



I have no place and heart for our blight situation, there surely is some lesson God has given us. I would die a million lives to not hear the screaming anymore....



Its some what of a lesson. You dont have to be a christian to read the bible. You should be a christian for whats infront you. Judgment day grows closer every second. The bible speaks of this whats happening. This evil that is ruining the world. There has always a balance good vs evil. Once the good in this world taken to the kingdom. The evil will engulf the globe.  The evil of Mankind will kill itself. Money and Power will destroy the world. I have never felt this sure about anything in my entire life. I have always told people to follow the ten commandments. The people that think the commandments are foolish shall live in this evil. Until it kills them. Then they burn in eternal hell. Just world is falling apart around you. Dont give in to the evil. For you shall not be saved. Read the words of the commandments the ideas behind them. What man would make those laws? Your not evil if you do drugs. You can still repent. Your evil if you steal, you lie, and you murder. You think god wants  you to kill other men even if your in military? Even from America, people here say its god country. The whole world is gods country, not just a piece of land. Its not okay to kill other men.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9449131 - 12/17/08 11:43 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

No, the blood on our hands is from the war between the 3 main cartels. We have nothing to do with it. What they meant was we are responsible because if nobody used drugs then they wouldn't have a reason to be fighting over the territory to smuggle drugs in to the US.

Thing is...Is that there will ALWAYS be drug users. If they locked, killed, or we all stopped using them there would be new users to take our places.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9449165 - 12/17/08 11:53 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Maybe he's referring to not wipe out the drugs..but wipe out you!


The futility of the human race is evident. We the people are a useless mass of earth; "breathing, thinking, functioning" can be seen at a brand new frontier when placed in front of the unconscious corruption of "most" of the human population[the average person, though inherently good, are corrupted by the things set in place in today's society, sex, Gucci, DRUGS!!!! merely too weak(as am I i luv droogz) ... a.k.a. very unBuddhist.


Mother nature's response will be harsh, I deem that; sooner or later the imbalance of nature will respond.



I have no place and heart for our blight situation, there surely is some lesson God has given us. I would die a million lives to not hear the screaming anymore....



Its some what of a lesson. You dont have to be a christian to read the bible. You should be a christian for whats infront you. Judgment day grows closer every second. The bible speaks of this whats happening. This evil that is ruining the world. There has always a balance good vs evil. Once the good in this world taken to the kingdom. The evil will engulf the globe.  The evil of Mankind will kill itself. Money and Power will destroy the world. I have never felt this sure about anything in my entire life. I have always told people to follow the ten commandments. The people that think the commandments are foolish shall live in this evil. Until it kills them. Then they burn in eternal hell. Just world is falling apart around you. Dont give in to the evil. For you shall not be saved. Read the words of the commandments the ideas behind them. What man would make those laws? Your not evil if you do drugs. You can still repent. Your evil if you steal, you lie, and you murder. You think god wants  you to kill other men even if your in military? Even from America, people here say its god country. The whole world is gods country, not just a piece of land. Its not okay to kill other men.




The whole world is the Universe's country/world NOT God. All you bible huggers snap into reality.

That is some pretty extreme violence going on down there. I can't blame those S*#*%s for trying to get themselves into the US.

The woman who;s husband was killed anyways looks hot!


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: hpi]
    #9449287 - 12/17/08 12:26 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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That is some pretty extreme violence going on down there. I can't blame those S*#*%s for trying to get themselves into the US.





That's all you got to say?? I'm proposing everyone to stop being assholes, but you would not care less, or would you? What would YOU sacrifice. Christianity is epic fail, sure, however, the moral behind, of  "God" sacrificing itself because HUMANS ARE EPIC FAIL...

The universe, the Earth, the innocent organisms on earth, what gives LIFE, and FUNCTION in an otherwise ceaseless universe; that universe is sacrificing these precious moments for humans to do what?!? Decapitate people?? butcher children with MACHETES? When you read this in the news, does ANYONE ever visualize this, sense the pain and the horror.

No wonder people want to cross the border... your the asshole I was talking about in my first post... fucking addicted to being an idiot. This is my diagnosis of the human race. There are special people out there man, good to the core. That is God in flesh. If you know these people, you are blessed. ~99 percent of humans are trash.(don't bash me, I'm in the trash category, it's kind of like being black and being able to say the word nigger.)


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: dead4spread20]
    #9449322 - 12/17/08 12:35 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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That is some pretty extreme violence going on down there. I can't blame those S*#*%s for trying to get themselves into the US.





That's all you got to say?? I'm proposing everyone to stop being assholes, but you would not care less, or would you? What would YOU sacrifice. Christianity is epic fail, sure, however, the moral behind, of  "God" sacrificing itself because HUMANS ARE EPIC FAIL...

The universe, the Earth, the innocent organisms on earth, what gives LIFE, and FUNCTION in an otherwise ceaseless universe; that universe is sacrificing these precious moments for humans to do what?!? Decapitate people?? butcher children with MACHETES? When you read this in the news, does ANYONE ever visualize this, sense the pain and the horror. No wonder people want to cross the border... your the asshole I was talking about in my first post... fucking addicted to being an idiot. This is my diagnosis of the human race. There are special people out there man, good to the core. That is God in flesh. If you know these people, you are blessed. ~99 percent of humans are trash.(don't bash me, I'm in the trash category, it's kind of like being black and being able to say the word nigger.)




Yeah it's all I gotta say. I've just learned to accept the fact that people will be people and will not change, atleast anytime soon.

It's just the way things are now and I can't change anything, I can only sit back to watch and read about the carnage going on.

I'm sorry but over the years I have developed some strong hatred towards certain people and these people are one of them and though it is terrible what's happening I just honestly truly don't care much at all.

If it was up to me I'd wipe those countries off the map period.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: dead4spread20]
    #9449347 - 12/17/08 12:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

In a sense I can agree with you. You say people will be people, yet nuclear genocide is the way to go.... I mean come on, I'm just like you, population control sure, but it will take 50 years of one child per family average to get our population to a MANAGEABLE level.

It's distant, sure, but somethings have to change, people have to be BETTER. I'm telling you, you and I are not much different, the world will go as it does... But when half the world is just like us, then you and I really can make a difference... It wouldn't be that hard.... HOWEVER history is history and weed still ain't legal.... FUTILE for sure is the word to describe the pathetic apathy penetrating....everywhere.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: HybridprX]
    #9449351 - 12/17/08 12:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Once again, this is disgusting...

I'd love for the fucking cocaine junkies to stop and think for a second how much blood is on their hands, sorry guys but its no longer a question about legalizing it, the drug has been corrupted by the actions of many.

Crack heads and junkies who will do anything for their hit, free basers...god this is just sick.

Legalize it? fuck it, wipe it out.




Wipe out cocaine?  Yeah, billions of dollars later and hundreds of thousands of lives later, we see how well "wiping it out" works.  It's time to try a more sensible approach.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: SuperD]
    #9449586 - 12/17/08 01:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

The industry has already claimed thousands of lives.

Ruined countless others......But hey, as long as none of us have to leave our homes having to worry about a sudden gunfight or abduction what the hell, might as well keep on doing the drugs that is causing violence to spill over into U.S territory, but maybe that's what the users need to stop themselves.

Shit, if the cartels had any sense they would unite, end the violence and be more productive moving product but nope, one asshole has to kill some guy that in return has family members that turn around in kill the person that killed them and so forth and so forth. It's a vicious cycle of things and I agree by taking the cartels to war they're just adding violence. I do not understand the reasoning behind any of this other then greed.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: HybridprX]
    #9449628 - 12/17/08 01:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Sad truth Hybrid...fact is we all know this. Prohibition needs to stop.


Worse part is, the people that rely most heavily on the price of cocaine is the poorest in the world, and has the most guns per square meter..Columbia

Now, take that money away, add in the probably still stagnant force of government in this world order, these people will still be in the worst of conditions. When prohibition ends, all these guns that run drugs, they will now be used for something else, the next best, most lucrative thing.

Double edged sword, a battle that will be fought for years to come..however bloodshed around the world fought over drugs and its money and its power, is DIRECTLY linked to these substances being illegal in the first place. Sounds like a broken record I know it's been said....

However, the cycle MUST end. It's a good fucking start.


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    #9449728 - 12/17/08 02:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, lets eradicate a PLANT! ... like we're not already killing off tons of species of life... :rolleyes:


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: dcox420]
    #9450032 - 12/17/08 03:17 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow...Blood on our hands. Hmmm look in the mirror you assclown. You are the one that declared the war on drugs not us. Declare a war and then blame us for the casualties that show up on your door step.





Yes, this seems to be true enough. The only problem is that those who care about this country and those who are victimized by it's current dictum are helpless to change it. The Man has big money, power, corporations etc. to back their (not OUR) agenda. Let's face it, standing by the ways of our fathers leaves us in the throws of ineptitude. We don't play in the arena of our choosing.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: shamandustin]
    #9450357 - 12/17/08 04:25 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Once again, this is disgusting...

I'd love for the fucking cocaine junkies to stop and think for a second how much blood is on their hands, sorry guys but its no longer a question about legalizing it, the drug has been corrupted by the actions of many.

Crack heads and junkies who will do anything for their hit, free basers...god this is just sick.

Legalize it? fuck it, wipe it out.






That is exactly what is already happening. You sound like a fucking fed.




thats cuz he probably is. theres gotta be a at least 50 feds monitering this site..


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: BEEP]
    #9450595 - 12/17/08 05:00 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, I'm a FED and I'm coming to arrest all of you for reading shroomery new service!

lol, you guys are all nuts. :tongue:

After thinking about it, you're all right! 100% positively right. It's not cocaine thats the problem, its the addicts! fuck, who would have figured that one out.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: veggie]
    #9450900 - 12/17/08 06:12 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Grow and buy domestic to save lives. Both :mushroom2: and  :ganja: are perfect for this, and the US DEA and Mexican counterparts know this well. Blood's on their hands, and that makes their careers.


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: N2loma]
    #9450973 - 12/17/08 06:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you loma, I agree this is not a hard concept to swallow. That's why it's up to the Shroomery and groups like it to stick it to those pricks. my 2 cents  kthxbye


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: SuperD]
    #9451259 - 12/17/08 07:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Ahh, wonderful guilt trips.  The law enforcement is the good guys fighting against such a evil bunch of people that I support for buying weed.  It's not victimless and I and others should just obey these laws.  Never mind that with the drug laws the way they are it's about impossible to be a contributing member to this society and find gainful legal employment with a criminal record.  So I fight against your mentality old law enforcement man.
99% of the human race as "trash"?  What a depressing way to view the world and people.  There is no need to take life so seriously, if you can't find enjoyment in all the shit what is the point?


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: mr.bixby]
    #9451896 - 12/17/08 09:30 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

There is no way that we know of, to fix a broken mind; mankind has stated that these chemicals are very powerful and we seek power.  Drugs can make a poor man feel richer and may even make him richer.

I don't like violence, I just wish people could have some decency but it's not going to happen.  People get what they look for and there are no good answers, just the DEA putting a dent in things (and they don't deserve all of the blame, they need to separate people that use for themselves and those that prey on interested people/addicts.)

Because it's a waste of time and money attacking peoples beliefs/morals that are simply users and provide for themselves (self growing, extracting) instead of going after very powerful damn near military organized criminals (that usually infiltrate the DEA and other agencies anyhow.)

Just makes more sense to go after people selling to others, the people that do just anything to stay in control (which is why I use drugs and just want to produce my own, fuck the mafia's).

I mean, if they allowed people to produce things for themselves that would change things, but people are stupid and can't make their own things (and not even safely most of the time when they do)......that would put more of a dent in the big companies (mafias)........but it's like having people grow and raise their own food, they are going to sell the excess and they are usually to lazy or short on land to do that for themselves........

There is simply no solution, people aren't going to find drugs less interesting (because they are interesting and I've never been like one retard they put on TV).  Like last night, I saw some tard who said he would take Xanax and wake up around all this stolen electronics, I thought WTF......I'd just go to sleep and he was probably a tard to start with.


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    #9452362 - 12/17/08 10:47 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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There is no way that we know of, to fix a broken mind; mankind has stated that these chemicals are very powerful and we seek power.  Drugs can make a poor man feel richer and may even make him richer.

I don't like violence, I just wish people could have some decency but it's not going to happen.  People get what they look for and there are no good answers, just the DEA putting a dent in things (and they don't deserve all of the blame, they need to separate people that use for themselves and those that prey on interested people/addicts.)

Because it's a waste of time and money attacking peoples beliefs/morals that are simply users and provide for themselves (self growing, extracting) instead of going after very powerful damn near military organized criminals (that usually infiltrate the DEA and other agencies anyhow.)

Just makes more sense to go after people selling to others, the people that do just anything to stay in control (which is why I use drugs and just want to produce my own, fuck the mafia's).

I mean, if they allowed people to produce things for themselves that would change things, but people are stupid and can't make their own things (and not even safely most of the time when they do)......that would put more of a dent in the big companies (mafias)........but it's like having people grow and raise their own food, they are going to sell the excess and they are usually to lazy or short on land to do that for themselves........

There is simply no solution, people aren't going to find drugs less interesting (because they are interesting and I've never been like one retard they put on TV).  Like last night, I saw some tard who said he would take Xanax and wake up around all this stolen electronics, I thought WTF......I'd just go to sleep and he was probably a tard to start with.




lmfao that hispanic kid.

They showed him laying in his room with a spin table and tv's and shit! I was stoned and spilled my juice everywhere when I saw that, I couldn't help it :getstoned:

At the end they said he completed treatment and made good with his family but then died in a carcrash 3 months later by an old friend who was driving while on Xanax.

It was classroom on National Geographic HD!


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Re: Brutal Drug War Fueled By U.S. Appetite [Re: hpi]
    #9454463 - 12/18/08 07:27 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

NO shit!  Fucked up, I took Xanax once and didn't like it; just felt tired and not even in a good way......but that was a hard time in my life....some kind of perma zombie from really pad happy doctors.....fucking assholes!

It makes me sick how dumb shits that do drugs ruin it for me, for real; docs are sworn to improve life and go about it really fucking stupidly.

I bet Thorazine would cause car crashes too and dumb fucks would take it.

Feel bad for the kid, was never to smart apparently.


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