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 Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you)  [Re: Shamanintraining]
#9414925 - 12/11/08 08:52 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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When i was young i found it easier to access illegal drugs than legal ones.
Same for me. Hell, getting blunt wraps was harder than getting weed.
same here as well
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: DimensionX]
#9414927 - 12/11/08 08:52 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you are purposefully missing my point.
Not really; I'd call worrying about getting caught by the police, dealing with sketchy dealers who jack up prices, and trying to get a hold of a hookup generally makes getting illegal drugs a lot harder than getting legal ones.
A blunt wrap can only be sold to 18+ kids; if you're under 18, it doesn't count as being legal for you to buy.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: anyone420]
#9414930 - 12/11/08 08:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not going to waste my time here any longer.
Have fun living in a hole for the rest of your life, you pathetic weasel.
So you make an argument and then choose not to back it up. Hmmm... 
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: doom876]
#9414933 - 12/11/08 08:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Again, this is my point. Making a drug legal increases the probability of a kid using it.
umm... so what are you proposing? it's already illegal for people to consume pills for people without prescription. are you encouraging this behavior over legal marijuana use?
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: deCypher]
#9414937 - 12/11/08 08:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not for children who get carded when they go to liquor stores.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#9414949 - 12/11/08 08:54 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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lolwut
Are you saying violence should never be used? Let's just do away with cops and our military then, shall we?
yes.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: DimensionX]
#9414948 - 12/11/08 08:54 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not for children who get carded when they go to liquor stores.
Alcohol is illegal for children to buy.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#9414954 - 12/11/08 08:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Again, this is my point. Making a drug legal increases the probability of a kid using it.
umm... so what are you proposing? it's already illegal for people to consume pills for people without prescription. are you encouraging this behavior over legal marijuana use?
No, I'm just saying the ability for doctors to prescribe legal pharmaceuticals makes it far more likely for people to use them over drugs such as heroin or cocaine.
Just look at how rampant Adderall or Ritalin abuse is.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: deCypher]
#9414957 - 12/11/08 08:56 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not for children who get carded when they go to liquor stores.
Alcohol is illegal for children to buy.
Thats pure semantics as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#9414960 - 12/11/08 08:56 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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lolwut
Are you saying violence should never be used? Let's just do away with cops and our military then, shall we?
yes.
Yeah, because the Wild West really worked out well.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: deCypher]
#9414970 - 12/11/08 08:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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so? making things illegal creates a black market, the cons of illegalization of drugs is far more than legalizing
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: DimensionX]
#9414975 - 12/11/08 08:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats pure semantics as far as I'm concerned.
How so? If something is legal for me to buy, this means that I can walk into a store and purchase it whenever I feel like it. If it's illegal, I first have to seek out a black market source, hope I won't get ripped off, and wait for his shady supplier to get the goods.
Legal vs. illegal dictates the convenience of getting a product.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#9414981 - 12/11/08 08:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, because the Wild West really worked out well.
and does it really work better now?
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#9414991 - 12/11/08 09:00 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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If someone steals your car, are you going to personally track them down, beat the shit out of them, and take the car back?
If someone kills your wife, are you going to personally do the forensic investigating?
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: deCypher]
#9415011 - 12/11/08 09:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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of course personally i as one person cannot do that. but as an organized libertarian society it would work much better.
your argument is the same as anti-gun proponants, people should not have guns, but only rely on police.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: deCypher]
#9415020 - 12/11/08 09:03 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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My point is that a legal but restricted drug (alcohol) is harder for a child to get than a drug that is completely illegal. Because when the drug is legalized it can be properly regulated.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: deCypher]
#9415022 - 12/11/08 09:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you make an argument and then choose not to back it up. Hmmm...
My argument has already been made. By myself and about 1000 different scholars. Your just some fuckhead on an internet forum that hasn't figured it out yet, or just refuses to. And i feel sorry for you. peaaaace
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#9415023 - 12/11/08 09:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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so? making things illegal creates a black market, the cons of illegalization of drugs is far more than legalizing
Legalizing gives the government more money through taxes and decreases organized crime, sure.
It also makes it more likely for people to try substances that they wouldn't ordinarily try. Most of you are speaking from a biased perspective where you have many peers and friends who do drugs. But the majority of Americans do not use illicit drugs, nor do they support their use. Making things legal removes the deterrent of jail-time and makes it more likely for non ordinarily-drug using people to try it out of curiosity.
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: DimensionX]
#9415033 - 12/11/08 09:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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DimensionX said:
My point is that a legal but restricted drug (alcohol) is harder for a child to get than a drug that is completely illegal.
Dunno if that's necessarily true. Are you saying MDMA is easier to get than booze at college?
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Re: Why drug legalization is fundamentally flawed. (anyone420, this one's for you) [Re: deCypher]
#9415041 - 12/11/08 09:06 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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nor do they support their use.
and making it legal will cause them to change their views?
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Making things legal removes the deterrent of jail-time and makes it more likely for non ordinarily-drug using people to try it out of curiosity.
so?
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