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 Re: Should women be allowed in combat related military jobs?  [Re: Crasher]
#9339173 - 11/30/08 08:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Congratulations, you have all become part of my sociology project!
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filthee
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: yasi]
#9339208 - 11/30/08 08:17 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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women are good soldiers with something to barter instead of being shot if ever taken as a pow
they couldnt make special forces tho
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: circularvortex]
#9339996 - 11/30/08 10:12 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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No... I don't think that anyone should be allowed to serve in the military...
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: filthee]
#9340005 - 11/30/08 10:14 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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filthee said:
women are good soldiers with something to barter instead of being shot if ever taken as a pow
Wow... lucky them! They get to be raped instead of just beaten!
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat related military jobs? [Re: yasi]
#9340008 - 11/30/08 10:14 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yasi said:
Congratulations, you have all become part of my sociology project!
Thanks! Make sure to add in it has nothing to do with sexism.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat related military jobs? [Re: jvm]
#9340047 - 11/30/08 10:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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jvm said:
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yasi said:
Congratulations, you have all become part of my sociology project!
Thanks! Make sure to add in it has nothing to do with sexism.
How do you figure? you're opinion on whether or not women should be allowed in combat specifically relates to gender roles.
That is classified under sex, gender, and sexuality which all relate to sexism.
 
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Edited by yasi (11/30/08 10:26 PM)
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The_Red_Crayon
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: Crasher]
#9340054 - 11/30/08 10:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Crasher said:
They should be allowed to serve anywhere in the military except in any recon or special operations capacity, with the exception of civil affairs and psychological warfare.
So pretty much has it stands now.
You realize though during WWII and the Cold War the allies employed shit tons of female spy's and others who arranged covert activities.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat related military jobs? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9340088 - 11/30/08 10:25 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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And now i get to observe first hand the guinea pig affect!
Not a guinea pig but close enough....
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9340096 - 11/30/08 10:26 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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although the concept of a modern military is not one i circumstantially agree with, i feel all women that desire to use and own firearms should go right ahead.
+ combat grade vehicles and equipment and everything of course.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: anyone420]
#9340123 - 11/30/08 10:29 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I voted before I thought about it, but I think that women can and have been a very real force in past military operations.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: anyone420]
#9340141 - 11/30/08 10:31 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you everyone for your input. After 7am pacific time I will no longer need the threads for my project. Happy posting!
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9340330 - 11/30/08 10:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maoist groups like FARC, Sendero Luminoso, Syrian Socialist Nationalist Party,Kurdish PKK, have all traditionally included women into combat roles. Women throughout history have played key roles in warfare, some of our greatest military planners were women.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat related military jobs? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9340705 - 12/01/08 12:06 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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You do realize that this was supposed to be specifically on the united states military, right?
It doesn't help my project giving reference to guerrilla groups
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9340826 - 12/01/08 12:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said:
some of our greatest military planners were women.
Source?
Plus, guerrilla groups take anyone, even children.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: Crasher]
#9341158 - 12/01/08 01:25 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Crasher said:
you guys know that women can serve pretty much everywhere in the military right?
I've known an MP batallion that was chock full of women and they got in some serious shit in Iraq. We nicknamed them the Amazons.
They just can't be in the infantry or direct combat roles.
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The_Red_Crayon said:
Maoist groups like FARC, Sendero Luminoso, Syrian Socialist Nationalist Party,Kurdish PKK, have all traditionally included women into combat roles.
I have no real problem with women going into combat.
It is really their decision.
I just don't like the co-ed situation in the US military.
But, segregation is a big no-no here so I doubt that you will ever see segregated male/female combat troups.
I just don't want to be in the trenches
under fire and have to rely on a female soldier to throw me over her shoulder and get me to cover....
if the need arises.
A woman carrying another woman is much more doable IMO.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: niteowl]
#9342467 - 12/01/08 09:16 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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that last picture looks like they are children.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: DragonChaser]
#9342533 - 12/01/08 09:55 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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DragonChaser said:
Plus, guerrilla groups take anyone, even children.
I would hope our military is striving to be more effective than guerrilla troops...
I voted no. It's obvious why
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: meams]
#9342551 - 12/01/08 10:03 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think men and women have different strengths and weaknesses. Women can shoot and run. Maybe not carry heavy things, or run as fast, or fight hand to hand as well (like that ever happens with the US military anyway?).
Unfortunately, women's strengths (above men) dont really lie in the military, combat roles. They lie back in camp, in society, with children, with negotiation, with words & togetherness.. instead of action & violence
even if some women escape this ideal.. most dont. just like some men can do womenly things very well.. but most dont
im sure some ppl think it is all culture.. and this is entirely possible. but that only means that women could potentially be equal to men (and vice versa) in the future.. as for today, culture is how it is, and so are men&women
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat related military jobs? [Re: yasi]
#9342707 - 12/01/08 11:05 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yasi said:
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jvm said:
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yasi said:
Congratulations, you have all become part of my sociology project!
Thanks! Make sure to add in it has nothing to do with sexism.
How do you figure? you're opinion on whether or not women should be allowed in combat specifically relates to gender roles.
That is classified under sex, gender, and sexuality which all relate to sexism.
I just think men should do their roles and women should do their roles. I don't see why anyone needed to make up an ism for that. Men are built warriors and women are built nurturers. That is why men have a lot of testosterone compared to women and women have a lot of estrogen compared to men. Sure men and women can be whatever they like but one of these days men and women are going to have to accept the fact that they are made different for a reason. The differences have different properties for which each sex is good at. It's not whether or not i think they can do it or not. It's more that i think women shouldn't do it because they would be much better using their natural given properties. If they lower themselves to a mans properties because they are lacking the warrior properties they are not using their given gender role wisely. A lot of women these days seem jealous of males because of the specific power they have. I find that completely absurd. Those women must be clueless about themselves because they have a natural given power of love and are not using it.
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Re: Should women be allowed in combat realated military jobs? [Re: yasi]
#9342758 - 12/01/08 11:18 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I say no, and I'm a woman.
In a military situation, women can still do a lot though to help though. In the medical tents, in the supply or food service area, doing secretary stuff, answering phones, working in intelligence etc. Women also need to be around to help children during war time and help other women, especially in societies where males are not allowed contact with women of that culture.
But I don't think women should be handling bombs, etc and fighting on the front lines. Women in a combat situation is a bad idea, especially if the men feel a bit horny and take it out on women. Next thing she knows, she's pregnant. A pregnant woman isn't going to be useful in combat. Yeah the whole menstrual thing gets in the way too. What happens when there is a supply shortage of feminine products? That would be a bad thing, especially in societies where a menstruating woman are still seen as unclean.
Look at all the stuff women did during WW1 and WW2, helping out the military. Many young single women left home to go work on the big British country estates to work as farm girls, or dealing with the rationing paperwork. In the states they worked on Victory Gardens and had baby sitting services so women could assist on the homefront.
http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/second_world_war/topics/855/
But I see nothing wrong with women working on computer networks, watching radar, or even flying planes. Air Force is probably best for women, especially if an officer instead of regular enlisted.
Try to find this on torrent, "Wartime Kitchen and Garden" from the BBC. Lots of good old wartime footage of what women did during WW2.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0879767/
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