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First Grow (Pics)
    #9237262 - 11/13/08 03:24 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

This was my 1st attempt at the pf tek using the EQ strain. I was very happy with the pin sets but disappointed with the size of the mushrooms which dried out to about .2g each -- Any insight on what I could do to increase the size of these guys?

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9237442 - 11/13/08 04:09 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

what size cakes are those 1/4pints? thats what it looks like i dunno whats up with your cakes my mini casing is only putting out small mushies stems look exactly like yours and they dry to be hollow as a straw...and im using b+ strain...hopefully someone with more knowledge can help but from what i understand try more FAE and misting.....
EDIT: i just reviewd the pics the mycelium looks like its blue from bruising...thats a sign of lack of moisture inside cake from what i understand might want to pick all the mushrooms then give them a 24 hr dunk..


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: durka_durka420]
    #9237472 - 11/13/08 04:14 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I think it has to do with the large amount of mushrooms you have on each cake.  If you have that many, they can only get so big.  How many grams TOTAL dry mushrooms did each cake put out?  Keep in mind that the average yield for a 1/4 pint cake is only like 3.5g dry for ALL flushes.  I'd be happy w/ those results personally, as small mushrooms are more potent per gram than larger ones.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: J3illy]
    #9237493 - 11/13/08 04:18 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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I think it has to do with the large amount of mushrooms you have on each cake.  If you have that many, they can only get so big.  How many grams TOTAL dry mushrooms did each cake put out?  Keep in mind that the average yield for a 1/4 pint cake is only like 3.5g dry for ALL flushes.  I'd be happy w/ those results personally, as small mushrooms are more potent per gram than larger ones.




Haha, that's what I was thinking too. That is a TON of mushies, small size or not. And from my experience as well, the small ones pack a whallop.

I actually think you did pretty awesome for a 1st grow!


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: EthericOctopuss]
    #9237673 - 11/13/08 04:43 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

this is my first grow and i just had a question...wtf is this?


how does this look for a cake 3 days after dunking?


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: stoopidmonkey]
    #9237747 - 11/13/08 04:54 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps you can increase the nutrients since the size of your cakes are probably what's constraining the size potential of your fungi.

Any ideas on additional nutrients might help.
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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9237776 - 11/13/08 04:59 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Nice first grow lots of good lookin little mushies

with cakes the only thing you could really do to increase the size of you shrooms would be to use half pints or stack your quarter pints and provide even more FAE while they're in the FC (just remember to mist before hand every time)


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: MOPE]
    #9238039 - 11/13/08 05:36 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the comments -- each cake produced about 4g dry so I guess thats not too bad, I also had a batch of B+ going at the same time which produced about 3g dry per cake but I found the B+ trip to be lacking, more of just a body high.. I am looking forward to trying out these little EQ's this weekend -- hopefully yall are right about the little guys packing a punch. The cakes are 1/2 pint btw.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9238067 - 11/13/08 05:40 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

4g dry on 1 flush is very good.  with that many shrooms there's no way they were gonna get much bigger.  the tradeoff is a bunch of small shrooms, or a couple large shrooms - i'd definitely rather a bunch of small ones.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9246117 - 11/14/08 10:19 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

These shrooms suck! Had some friends over and we all ate 4+g and no one tripped! B+ only gave a weak ass body high and a week later EQ didnt do shit!

What the hell? Can someone take a stab at why the fuck we did not trip.. why these mushrooms suck?


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9246383 - 11/14/08 11:03 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

grow them on rye and manure/straw. plus it could just be the strains genetics. take spores and do another grow. potency fluctuates with them.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: mister]
    #9246431 - 11/14/08 11:12 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

how did you dry them?

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9246522 - 11/14/08 11:30 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

The ones we ate were fresh -- I dried most of them in a nesco dehydrator but kept some fresh because we were eating them shortly after harvest..

I have some more brf jars already colonizing at the moment -- what would you suggest I do with them (spawn to..) because I dont want to do cakes and get some weak ass shit again


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9246531 - 11/14/08 11:32 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

We each ate 40-50g wet btw


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9246621 - 11/14/08 11:46 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

spawn to hpoo or coir or even a mix of the two
hot hot was your nesco?

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9246955 - 11/15/08 01:18 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I dont know the temperature of the nesco I used -- And I have already realized this problem and will purchase a dehydrator with temp control for future drying but I ate fresh mushrooms, not the dried ones.

And I will look into spawning these brf cakes to hpoo and coir, thanks.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9247018 - 11/15/08 01:38 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

so you ate 40-50g fresh and didnt trip??
thats weird
last time i used a dehydrator the potency sucked(glad i only had a lil bit in there)
now i do what i used to,dehydrator racks on top of a fan
dry in less than a day
try that see if it works for you

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9247085 - 11/15/08 02:03 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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These shrooms suck! Had some friends over and we all ate 4+g and no one tripped! B+ only gave a weak ass body high and a week later EQ didnt do shit!

What the hell? Can someone take a stab at why the fuck we did not trip.. why these mushrooms suck?




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Was that 4 gms a piece or between you all.  I'm assuming that it was a piece and that it was 4 gms wet weight which would do nothing but give you a body high.  You need at least 10 gms wet or 1 gm dry (per person!) to "enjoy a day at the park with shrooms.  If you want to "EXPERIENCE LIFE"  then your talking 300 gms wet or 3 gms dry.  Oh hell, now that I'm thinking about it this all of a sudden belongs in the Psychedelic Experience Forum.  (Those are "generic" and "PERSONAL" weights to trip level measurements and should not be taken as "recommended" dosage amounts!!!!)


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9247095 - 11/15/08 02:05 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Yea I really can't understand how you didn't trip off 40-50g fresh!  That's a big dose man.. Why did you take that much?  If they were legit you guys would have been sooo gone.

Where did you get the spores from btw?


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: J3illy]
    #9247628 - 11/15/08 05:25 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

We ate 40-50g wet each and just got a body high for an hour or two. The EQ gave a little bit of a stronger body high than the B+ but just a body high nevertheless. They were taken 1 week apart. I just dont understand! They look damn good, lots of blueing and everything, but the trip just never happened. Pretty frustrating.

And the spores were from Ralphsters.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9247637 - 11/15/08 05:33 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Lots of things can affect it... how was the set & setting, do you have any medications, did you take alcohol with the mushrooms...


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9247642 - 11/15/08 05:36 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Damn that makes such little sense! I've only eaten shrooms maybe 5 times - and every time it was no more than 2g dry, and I TRIPPED everytime lol.
40-50 fresh is like 6g dry, when you factor in a little alkaloid loss from drying.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: J3illy]
    #9247648 - 11/15/08 05:43 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

as i get older, my  tolerence changes. it takes me more of everything....
also that sucks man, I got B plus coming and I hope its better than yours. None-the-less good luck and tell us about future grows and strains.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: J3illy]
    #9247655 - 11/15/08 05:51 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Setting was fine -- After we ate 30g we put on some music and smoked a bunch of bud >> an hour later we all ate 10-20g more since we hardly felt anything >> an hour and a half later, we were pissed and started drinking. I guess Im going to try a higher dose next weekend.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9247715 - 11/15/08 06:59 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Started drinking 1h 30min after ingestion?

Dude.. 1. sometimes it takes me 3 or even 4 hours before I'm properly tripping... time is a weird concept when it comes to tripping. 2. drinking alcohol is a hell of a good way to bring down a trip...


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: dead]
    #9247794 - 11/15/08 08:36 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

it would take fresh shrooms longer to hit you. my friends took them fresh one time and it was like two hours for it to hit


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: mister]
    #9248955 - 11/15/08 02:22 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

3-4 hours?! never heard of it taking that long.. And we started drinking 2.5 hours after ingesting the first 30g -- After 2.5 hours of nothing our mindsets were all messed up anyhow, we concluded we werent going to trip and thus turned to alcohol. Maybe we should have waited longer.. Ill put your time theory to the test next weekend. Thanks for yall's input.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9249249 - 11/15/08 03:26 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I ate 22g fresh GT last night and if it was 40g I would have been commanding the SS Enterprise!  I have heard great things bout the B+ so I'd chalk it up to variences in multispore inoculation.  You never know what you're gonna get.  I have also read that potency can vary greatly between flushes so don't get caught by the meanies next time!
also I like to fast the day of tripping with liquids only and NO BOOZE!
30 mins after eating I eat a Vitamin C tablet and wash it with OJ and shazam!!!!

This was my first time eating fresh and I will go back to dry from now on.  I like a quicker comeup and sharper visuals than I got with fresh.  Although the body buzz last night was HEAVY!


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: Vermonster420]
    #9261836 - 11/17/08 08:22 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

So dry shrooms will bring you up quicker and give sharper visuals than fresh shrooms?

My batch of F+ should be ready for harvest by the weekend, and I plan on trying the lemon tek out -- hopefully theyll work better than the B+ and EQ I grew.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9262736 - 11/17/08 10:43 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I will have to do more comparison to affirm or deny that claim but I do know that the freshies gave me wicked GAS!  ewwwww!


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: Vermonster420]
    #9262858 - 11/17/08 11:06 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

My first time ever taking mushrooms I ate about 25g wet. After like three hours of sitting around not feeling anything I went out and smoked a joint with a friend. I remember looking at the clouds and they were all glowing yellow, then I started to feel weird.

It took its time, but it got me there.

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9264672 - 11/18/08 08:40 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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So dry shrooms will bring you up quicker and give sharper visuals than fresh shrooms?




NO, exactly the other way around IME.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: dead]
    #9278280 - 11/20/08 01:59 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Here are some more first grow pics >> Hawaiian's on BRF cakes:









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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: dead]
    #9278300 - 11/20/08 02:03 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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So dry shrooms will bring you up quicker and give sharper visuals than fresh shrooms?




NO, exactly the other way around IME.




I agree!  That's been my experience as well.

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #9278336 - 11/20/08 02:09 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Those look Real nice.  Good size for cakes. great genetics, cloning any?


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: Vermonster420]
    #9278640 - 11/20/08 03:08 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't gotten any weak shrooms of brf cakes yet.  If I ate 40-50g wet I would be so fucked up.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: yeahbuddyyyyyyyy]
    #9279172 - 11/20/08 04:48 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I have been meaning to look into how to clone but havent gotten around to it yet -- Never had any weak shrooms off cakes!? wtf, my EQ's and B+ were weak as hell.. but I have some HW's and will probably have some F+ ready for this weekend -- We will see how those go :crazy2:


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: sdm0218]
    #9279383 - 11/20/08 05:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I have been meaning to look into how to clone but havent gotten around to it yet -- Never had any weak shrooms off cakes!? wtf, my EQ's and B+ were weak as hell.. but I have some HW's and will probably have some F+ ready for this weekend -- We will see how those go :crazy2:



shit man, only explanation i can think of for you all not tripping - is that you are aliens. seriously, weak or not, you should have tripped off that kinda dose, especially wet. theres a chance one of you has a natural high tolerance for shrooms - but all of you, is just fucking wierd.

anyways, nice grows man, they are great clusters you have there. i especially like the hawiian. be careful when trying higher doses, cos i have a feeling it will knock your socks off before you know it, because there isnt a person alive that cant trip off a good dose of shrooms...!

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: mcdonalds_is_fun]
    #9279408 - 11/20/08 05:29 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I remember, last march I got some mushies from a friend, ate about 5 grams dry... and I walked to the moon... hopefully the cambo's I'm growing turn out well...


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: xbrutalx233]
    #9279643 - 11/20/08 06:01 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

why do ppl eat wet shrooms when they can just dry it. isnt eating shrooms dry stronger than wet. it seems like a waste


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: shroomhelp13]
    #9279756 - 11/20/08 06:15 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

IME they are pretty close, wet was a little stronger... just made for some stronger nausea... I'd stick with dry.


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: shroomhelp13]
    #9279999 - 11/20/08 06:44 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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why do ppl eat wet shrooms when they can just dry it. isnt eating shrooms dry stronger than wet. it seems like a waste



weight is proportional!  let's say you have a 10gm fresh shroom.  you get 3 of those same size and weight shrooms and you end up eating 30gms wet right?  Well, dry those suckers up and you end up having right around 3gms dry.  IT'S STILL 3 SHROOMS RIGHT?  Where's the waste!  I actually love fresh shrooms and can't help but munch on a few as I'm harvesting.  I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something about the trip when their fresh..... Could just be in my head, but it seems more vibrant and energetic if that makes any sense.  Dry gives me more of a body high along with the mild visuals.  It's probably just psychological and I'm full ofshit. LOL!

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #9280498 - 11/20/08 07:54 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Eating'em fresh is like going to the grocery lol. When they're dry it's harder for me to take them down.

As for tolerance... the more the merrier I say.

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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #9280534 - 11/20/08 07:58 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something about the trip when their fresh..... Could just be in my head, but it seems more vibrant and energetic if that makes any sense.  Dry gives me more of a body high along with the mild visuals.  It's probably just psychological and I'm full ofshit. LOL!





You are not! I've noticed the EXACT same thing. Fresh shrooms are so much more intense! When you eat them dry it's like something's missing... you can't quite tell what it is but it's there. Or should I say, it's not there...


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Re: First Grow (Pics) [Re: bbt0009]
    #9299215 - 11/23/08 08:32 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

The Hawaiian and the F+ were awesome! Six of us all ate 45g fresh and saw Bolt in 3D at the theaters.. which was amazing!! I highly recommend it. I dont know what the deal was with the B+ and EQ, but I am very happy to have some good shrooms out of this 1st grow.


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    #9305431 - 11/24/08 07:09 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I forgot to mention how strangely quick the F+ kicked in -- No more than 15 minutes after consumption, we were all tripping pretty hard, and some of my friends even swallowed their shrooms whole. Ive never had shrooms kick in that fast. The trip was very light, not much of a body high, but very good visuals. I would definately recommend F+ if you are looking for visuals.


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    #14521019 - 05/27/11 03:50 PM (2 years, 23 days ago)

This is also my first time... I've never even tried them yet ;P this is gonna be #Epic Omfg.. lol smh..iKnow i have patience, so i'n just chill thats not an issue... But yea... any advice or anything is greatly appreciated :smile: I will keep updating pics.. Here's some pic now.. this is like 2 weeks in i suppose.. Im doing Hawaiian(in the Taller glass cup) and Mazatapec(Mexican in the little glass tea cup)...



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    #14521021 - 05/27/11 03:50 PM (2 years, 23 days ago)

This is also my first time... I've never even tried them yet ;P this is gonna be #Epic Omfg.. lol smh..iKnow i have patience, so i'n just chill thats not an issue... But yea... any advice or anything is greatly appreciated :smile: I will keep updating pics.. Here's some pic now.. this is like 2 weeks in i suppose.. Im doing Hawaiian(in the Taller glass cup) and Mazatapec(Mexican in the little glass tea cup)...



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