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New Psilocybe species (Psilocybe Meridianus)
    #9175403 - 11/03/08 01:41 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I wanted to tell you all that the species of psilocybe that Alteredstates and I have found in the last year that was presumed to be psilocybe subaeruginascens, is not ps. subaeruginascens. It seems that it grows scleriota on agar mediums and also prefers conifers.

We will present a new name for the species by thursday, Nov 6.



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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9175415 - 11/03/08 01:45 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

great news.

i like to see the ranks of the genus fill out, even if they haven't taken the plunge to setting it on it's own yet.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9175454 - 11/03/08 01:56 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Sweet! I have a print of this!! I just swiped some of the spores onto MEA plates a few days ago.

Let's hope for some sclerotia!


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #9175473 - 11/03/08 02:02 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Subbed, who is working on this?


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CureCat]
    #9175490 - 11/03/08 02:04 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

:awesome:


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CureCat]
    #9175498 - 11/03/08 02:06 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm.. I just looked at this page, Mycotaxon Submissions.

So anyone can write up the paper? Is a certain degree (PhD) needed?


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #9175522 - 11/03/08 02:11 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Mycotaxon is an excellent journal.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #9175528 - 11/03/08 02:13 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

i think as long as the paper uniquely describes [defines] the taxon that's all that's needed.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9176690 - 11/03/08 12:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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These look similiar to Cyans... is it possible that these might have made there way to europe??


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: psilocin85]
    #9176700 - 11/03/08 12:08 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

cyans have been growing in europe for ages.

if these are a new psilocybe then who knows where else they would grow.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #9176711 - 11/03/08 12:10 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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So anyone can write up the paper? Is a certain degree (PhD) needed?



For scientific journals, a degree is not necessary, but it's usually pretty difficult to get accepted if you don't know your way around scientific publishing. I'm not in biology or exact sciences, so I couldn't help you with this, I'm afraid. Perhaps Senor_Hongos, Alan_Rockefeller or Workman could be of help, if they have time to spare?


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CureCat]
    #9176946 - 11/03/08 12:52 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Subbed, who is working on this?




Nightflyer sent me the message and a picture of auweias kind on agar and my own comparatively telling me the differences. Now I know it may not be the king of mushrooms whom told me to name this species but I was told Its my discovery and I should.

IF anyone else has done the taxonomy or any research on this species, please present it forward.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: koraks]
    #9176981 - 11/03/08 01:03 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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BlimeyGrimey said:

So anyone can write up the paper? Is a certain degree (PhD) needed?



For scientific journals, a degree is not necessary, but it's usually pretty difficult to get accepted if you don't know your way around scientific publishing. I'm not in biology or exact sciences, so I couldn't help you with this, I'm afraid. Perhaps Senor_Hongos, Alan_Rockefeller or Workman could be of help, if they have time to spare?




That's correct, Koraks.  I don't know about now but back in the day you could even name species if you could write the description in Latin and knew the ins and outs of peer-review publishing.

I appreciate the recommendation but I'm afraid my time is already allotted for several projects to some very patient Shroomerites.  Alan and Workman are more than qualified (as if that needed to be said).  If I had a project I needed help on both of those men are at the top of a very short list.

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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CptnGarden]
    #9177085 - 11/03/08 01:25 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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cyans have been growing in europe for ages.

if these are a new psilocybe then who knows where else they would grow.




I know Cyans have been growing in europe, what i asked was if those in the picture might be growing in europe... my reason for asking is they look very much like cyans.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: psilocin85]
    #9177262 - 11/03/08 02:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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cyans have been growing in europe for ages.

if these are a new psilocybe then who knows where else they would grow.




I know Cyans have been growing in europe, what i asked was if those in the picture might be growing in europe... my reason for asking is they look very much like cyans.





if so they would have been discovered long before subb discovered them.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: psilocin85]
    #9177618 - 11/03/08 03:29 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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cyans have been growing in europe for ages.

if these are a new psilocybe then who knows where else they would grow.




I know Cyans have been growing in europe, what i asked was if those in the picture might be growing in europe... my reason for asking is they look very much like cyans.




don't look like cyans to me :P


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Kupo]
    #9177777 - 11/03/08 03:59 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

About 18-20 years ago, I found a batch of albino Semilanceatas. Well, they weren't even albino, really, they weren't white, but more like almost colorless. Way weird. They were clear colored, almost fluorescent, with a bluish glow where bruised, of course (NO, I WASN'T tripping back then! :grin: ). I wish I would have been into growing back then and had collected the spores of that strain for preservation. They were definitely potent as hell, that's for sure.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9177786 - 11/03/08 04:01 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Sterile semilanceatas. They occur, although I've never had the pleasure of finding them. Here are some excellent pics of sterile liberty caps. This one says it all:


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: koraks]
    #9177822 - 11/03/08 04:09 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

i used to find them during the end of the season in washington state. they got huge and robust sometimes, and resembled candy corns in some ways.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: koraks]
    #9177849 - 11/03/08 04:15 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Sterile semilanceatas. They occur, although I've never had the pleasure of finding them. Here are some excellent pics of sterile liberty caps. This one says it all:





Yep, that's them! Cool! :thumbup:
But the stems were not this yellowish. They were of the same almost colorless transparent appearance as the caps.


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