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DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA]
    #9049192 - 10/08/08 07:36 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach
October 8, 2008 - ocregister.com

LAGUNA BEACH - Agents with the Drug Enforcement Administration raided a marijuana dispensary Tuesday, seized an unknown amount of marijuana and took into custody two people who were later released, authorities said.

With the assistance of detectives from the Laguna Beach Police Department, DEA agents served the search warrant at 2007 South Coast Highway, taking into custody marijuana plants and several edible products believed to contain marijuana, said Special Agent Sarah Pullen of the DEA.

Officers with the Laguna Beach Police Department assisted in containing the area but did not participate in the actual search, said Sgt. Jason Kravetz.

Two employees who were taken into custody were later released. No charges have been filed in connection to the case, she said.

The federal search warrant is under seal and details on how much marijuana was seized at the Laguna Beach Holistic Center could not be disclosed, Pullen said.

A call to the business was not answered Wednesday afternoon.

The search and seizure of the marijuana is the latest local example of the clash that has continued between California and federal laws, which contradict each other in the question of medical marijuana and has left cities and local law enforcement agencies in the middle.

Some cities, such as Huntington Beach, Laguna Hills, Mission Viejo, Fullerton and Santa Ana have banned marijuana dispensaries in their area. Brea has adopted a moratorium ban until March 2009.

In contrast, the Laguna Woods City Council passed an ordinance in September allowing medical dispensaries, although they would only be allowed to serve city residents.

Federal law prohibits the use and sale of marijuana, but voters in California passed the Compassionate Use Act in 1996, which allows people to use marijuana for medicinal purposes.

While local law enforcement agencies have usually allowed the local dispensaries to do business, federal authorities have served several search warrants and seized marijuana from the businesses.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #9049291 - 10/08/08 07:55 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Taking into custody marijuana plants and several edible products believed to contain marijuana, said Special Agent Sarah Pullen of the DEA.




Sarah Pullen.....


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9049355 - 10/08/08 08:05 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

That is really stupid that the DEA cant find something better to do than attack a medical dispensary!!! What a joke as long as the dispensary isn't doing anything completely out of line I dont understand the govt decisions!!!!


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9049358 - 10/08/08 08:05 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

this is retarded, now they raid clinics and dont press charges? what the fuck are they thinking.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: clover606]
    #9049407 - 10/08/08 08:16 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

you know how a junkie gets when he needs a fix?

all uppity and shit, i need some shit now, kinda feeling?

well, DEA agents are people too. and they need weed and money.

and what easier way to get them than to "enforce federal law" and go and steal it from a legal place of business?

it's for no good of the community. all they wanted was weed and money. and that's exactly what they got.

probably no charges will be filed against the employees. maybe against the owner or operator, but probably not either


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #9049525 - 10/08/08 08:38 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

It makes me sick to my stomach.  :frown:


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #9049539 - 10/08/08 08:41 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

it makes me sick to my stomach to read things like this. God I hate the DEA. FUCK YOU SARAH PULLEN


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: bongoboy2000]
    #9049913 - 10/08/08 09:43 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

DEA is doing whatever they can because they know in four weeks a new power will take office and the rights of the states are going to be protected.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: wireless]
    #9050071 - 10/08/08 10:00 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I guess I could call the DEA on the phone and ask them to cut it out.

It would be fun to call the nearest DEA office to Long Beach and ask for Sarah Pullen, and ask her about her use of tax dollars and imply that she doesn't have her priorities straight.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #9050270 - 10/08/08 10:30 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

police suck, fuggin alphabet mafia


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: acromonium]
    #9050353 - 10/08/08 10:41 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Tax Dollars hard at work.  Just think of how many crooked companies we could bail out with all of the money the DEA wastes...


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #9051122 - 10/09/08 12:28 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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veggie said:said Special Agent Sarah Palin of the DEA.





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Two employees who were taken into custody were later released. No charges have been filed in connection to the case, she said.




they never say if they were charged with anything else...


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: ShroomieGirl]
    #9051934 - 10/09/08 04:07 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

when dispensaries are raided, they usually take all of the weed and sometimes the cash, and shortly after threaten the landlords ... who then send 1-month eviction notices to the tenants so that they (the landlords) don't get fucked by the DEA.  there are usually no charges involved, it's merely a "clean-up" scheme by the DEA to prevent people from getting their medicine.

pricks. :crankey:


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: wireless]
    #9052122 - 10/09/08 06:43 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

> and the rights of the(y) states are going to be protected.

The only one of the four that care about state rights is Sarah Palin.  McCain and Biden both dislike drugs, except for alcohol, and Obama will do whatever his handlers tell him (much like George does now).


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Seuss]
    #9052126 - 10/09/08 06:49 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

agreed. 

And Obama keeps spouting so much bullshit about patients being arrested by the DEA for smokin marijuana I don't know what version of reality he's in.  I can see him take office now and declare he'll end raids on medical marijuana patients that smoke pot.  And then we'll all breath a sigh of relief as these pot consuming patients no longer fear the DEA kicking their door down.


Course they never did fear that, and Obama entirely manufactured the entire issue  so as to be praised for some bullshit neither Bush nor Clinton did.  MM patients are not being arrested for smoking pot by the feds.  Why does Obama keep saying he'll stop this then?


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: johnm214]
    #9052887 - 10/09/08 12:35 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

unknown amount of marijuana? that's thorough DEA style bullshit
i wonder of they put seized drugs back on the streets....


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: wishywashy]
    #9053850 - 10/09/08 04:02 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Obama stated that all non-violent drug offenders will get NO prison time.  This includes dealers that dont have guns on them.

Just the first step though....


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #9053894 - 10/09/08 04:09 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Obama stated that all non-violent drug offenders will get NO prison time.  This includes dealers that dont have guns on them.

Just the first step though....




The Libertarian campaign manager (or someone in that position) was quoted in a Playboy interview that within 100 days of election, Libertarians want to release every non-violent drug offender in the US prision system.

THAT's a good first step... maybe give them back the right to vote too.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #9057204 - 10/10/08 05:12 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Obama stated that all non-violent drug offenders will get NO prison time.  This includes dealers that dont have guns on them.

Just the first step though....





Yeah right, source?


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #9057308 - 10/10/08 07:28 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

HB is right, these are just shakedowns.

Attn. LEOs: GO RAID A METH LAB YOU FUCKING PUSSIES!!!


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Rev. Morton]
    #9057386 - 10/10/08 08:33 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

So... you support discriminatory prosecutions or what?


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #9057559 - 10/10/08 10:05 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Obama stated that all non-violent drug offenders will get NO prison time.  This includes dealers that dont have guns on them.

Just the first step though....




McCain said he'd start a government program similar to welfare that gives marijuana, LSD and mushrooms to indigent people free of charge.


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    #9058824 - 10/10/08 03:00 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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So... you support discriminatory prosecutions or what?




I don't actually but if they have to 'fight drugs' they should fight meth.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Rev. Morton]
    #9059951 - 10/10/08 07:07 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Agreed, I'm just saying the laws should be vigorously enforced as written as a matter of public policy.


When you get into which law you are going to enforce you open the door for the mayor's kid to not be prosecuted for his offense but you being prosecuted for yours.


One day perhaps we'll realize that only things which harm another's rights should be criminal.  Till then, at least enforce the laws evenly in my opinion.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: johnm214]
    #9060130 - 10/10/08 07:45 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

>> I don't actually but if they have to 'fight drugs' they should fight meth.
> Agreed

I disagree.  I don't believe in the "my drug is better than your drug, thus my drug should be legal while your drug should be illegal" hypocrisy.  It is no different than alcohol and cannabis.  All drugs should be legal, and people that commit crimes should be punished for those crimes.

Although meth may be a horrid evil drug, it is not my place to tell somebody that they cannot put it into their body.  If that person does something illegal because they are on meth, then arrest them and prosecute them for the crime committed.  Alcohol causes people to do some horrendous crimes, but we don't outlaw it because of the potential of alcohol to cause people to commit crimes.

Guilty before committing a crime is worse than guilty until proven innocent as far as I am concerned.  I have known several people that have used meth recreationally and not had any problems.  (I happen to be one of them, though I haven't touched it in over a decade.)


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Seuss]
    #9061702 - 10/11/08 04:21 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Well I agree, but I also say that if their is a substance to be made illegal it is better methamphetamine than marijuana, I don't think this is inconsistant with your contentions, and its all I was trying to communicate.  I don't agree that "they" should go after meth and not marijuana if "they" is the police and not lawmakers.

Of course we don't have a system where we  pick a drug to the exclusion of others to be made illegal.  We have comprehensive prohibition on a wide range of drugs.  And so my advocacy in the above is not relevant to real world situations.  There is no requirement that one drug be illegal and one legal.




Although I don't even know if meth or marijuana can be said to be worse than each other from a societal utilitarian point of view.  Meth has somwhat unique benifits that I don't think are well encompased in other available drugs whereas marijuana's benifits are probably more minor, ignoring recreational use.


But yeah, it comes down to whether people are willing to extend their personal decisions about what society should be encouraging or discouraging to the actual case of a person being arrested or jailed because they made, sold, or used a drug without getting government permission.  That should never happen and I categorically oppose it with any drug.  Its even more absurd when meth can be used, and is used, in a nonrecreational manner- a facet which is all but ignored in the latest moral panic.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: johnm214]
    #9061925 - 10/11/08 05:36 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

>  I don't agree that "they" should go after meth and not marijuana if "they" is the police and not lawmakers.

Ah, I see what you mean.  The police shouldn't be deciding what part of the law to enforce and what part to ignore?  Gotcha.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Seuss]
    #9061977 - 10/11/08 06:52 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I know this debate has been raised before but I didn't take part in it.

Please compare the environmental toxicity of a meth lab vs. a cannabis or mushroom garden or even a DMT or LSD lab.

Would you want to breathe the fumes from a neighbors cookery?
Meth labs should certainly be illegal in residential areas.

Meth is also different because of it's potency.
I got totally tweaked just from the second hand smoke once.

I've never gotten more than a light buzz from second hand Cannabis.


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    #9061983 - 10/11/08 07:00 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

The methlab stuff is pure hype and a little the result of idiots cooking without proper equipement.  With condensors for refluxing- instead of straight boiling which is probably what the fools do, a fume hood, and proper waste disposal you shouldn't have any danger.

Contaminating a neighborhood is one thing that should be a crime, but I seriuosly doubt anyone does that.  At most the idiots flood their house with fumes of lord knows what cuz they're too stupid to spend thirty butocks on a round bottom flask, a condensor, and an adaptor for the faucet to run the water through the condensor.


But we're ignoring the obvious that jackasses wouldn't be making meth if it were legally available to the consumers.  Problem solved.


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Re: DEA raids medical marijuana dispensary in Laguna Beach [CA] [Re: Rev. Morton]
    #9062018 - 10/11/08 07:25 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

> Please compare the environmental toxicity of a meth lab vs. a cannabis or mushroom garden or even a DMT or LSD lab.

Pointless.  If all drugs were legal, then there would be no drug labs, as it would be cheaper and safer to walk to the local drug store and buy standardized, clean drugs.

> Meth is also different because of it's potency.

Potency is in dosage.  If you want to get technical, LSD is much more potent (per weight) than meth.  Nicotine is much more potent (per weight) than meth.

> I got totally tweaked just from the second hand smoke once.

I'm not saying it should be legal to walk down the street smoking meth.  Personally, I don't like people that walk down the street smoking cigarettes.  If you want to do drugs, be they alcohol, nicotine/cigarettes, or meth, do them in your own home or in designated places (such as bars).

Also, not all meth is smoked.

Finally, assuming the above (with respect to locale), it is your choice to be around people that are doing whatever drug.

It really boils down to "who am I to decide what you can or cannot put into your own body?"  What you do to yourself in your own home should be no concern of mine.  If what you do in your own home leads to other problems, then, and only then, should I get involved.

(And I am arguing a completely different topic than what John was speaking of above.  I am claiming that the law against drugs is unjust and should be done away with.  I am not claiming that the law as it exists should be capriciously enforced by police.)


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    #9062783 - 10/11/08 01:50 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Please compare the environmental toxicity of a meth lab vs. a cannabis or mushroom garden or even a DMT or LSD lab.





Meth labs only create environmental toxicity due to gross negligence.  Many meth cooks take care of their waste and reuse their solvents.  The police hype about contaminating whole neighborhoods is just hype. 

Any chemical process will leave waste, its up to the chemist to properly dispose of the waste.  The war on drugs often makes it difficult to do that.


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    #9063873 - 10/11/08 06:45 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Please compare the environmental toxicity of a meth lab vs. a cannabis or mushroom garden or even a DMT or LSD lab.





Meth labs only create environmental toxicity due to gross negligence.  Many meth cooks take care of their waste and reuse their solvents.  The police hype about contaminating whole neighborhoods is just hype. 

Any chemical process will leave waste, its up to the chemist to properly dispose of the waste.  The war on drugs often makes it difficult to do that.




exactly


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