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Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion
    #8955531 - 09/19/08 06:21 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I am currently 18 and have a friend who is 15 (turning 16 soon).

He is wanting to start getting it into some harder stuff then what he is currently doing. He has done DXM, Hydrocodone, and ganja. He wants to do shrooms but we have a lack of dealers in the area, so we picked some and are currently drying and researching them now. He also wants to try acid, but the only dealer I can currently find is charging $20/hit(crazy right?) I have looked around for peyote with very little found, so that is probably out of the question (being in the SE). He also wants to try salvia.

So my question is what should I start him out on in the next level of psychedelic experiences.

If you can think of anything I didnt list that is a good alternative then please feel free to add.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8955554 - 09/19/08 06:27 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

You shouldnt start him on anything, thats his choice.

But you said he want to so i would try to find sum mushies, post what you find in the hunting forum for proper identification.

Never eat any mushroom your unsure of, also i wouldnt call any of the substance you listed as "hard" drugs.

What state are you in?


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8955555 - 09/19/08 06:27 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Acid is probably a good first.

I dunno, I think thats a bit young but whatever...


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8955563 - 09/19/08 06:28 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I said "Harder" I know all those are considered soft, hard = meth, coke, etc. and I live in Alabama.

Also, yes we are going to do spore prints and posts in Shroom hunting forums sometime this or next week.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8955592 - 09/19/08 06:32 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I said "Harder" I know all those are considered soft, hard = meth, coke, etc. and I live in Alabama.


Well you live in a good state for hunting active mushroom species.

Cubes grow in cow pastures, my buddy in Aniston, AL has been finding a ton of cubes recently.

Heres a list of all the active mushrooms in your area.

http://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8955593 - 09/19/08 06:32 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, i need a fiend like you man. I need to hookup with someone thatll guide me through my first trip. And im fuckin 19.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8955619 - 09/19/08 06:38 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I said "Harder" I know all those are considered soft, hard = meth, coke, etc. and I live in Alabama.


Well you live in a good state for hunting active mushroom species.

Cubes grow in cow pastures, my buddy in Aniston, AL has been finding a ton of cubes recently.

Heres a list of all the active mushrooms in your area.

http://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area




Yeah, I live about 2 hours from there, my friend lives right next to a cow pasture and picked some shrooms, they are currently drying, can you get spore prints when dried?

We are thinking they are cubes because the caps are about half the size of his palm and the stems are a few inches, the black has become black as night over the past few days of drying (thinking that is a good sign). Hoping to get some good pictures up soon.

What do you think is a good starting amount for a mushnoob, 1/8?


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8955874 - 09/19/08 07:38 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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...can you get spore prints when dried?...





NO!:bitchsmack:









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Also, can you do spore prints on a dry mushroom or only on fresh mushrooms?




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I think spore prints will only work on a fresh mushroom, I can't see it working after it's dried.




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Can spore prints come from dried shrooms?




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No.




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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8956322 - 09/19/08 09:27 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

If your friend can handle 10 mg/kg DXM no problem, then I would say that he can probably turn to just about anything.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: Plasmid]
    #8956324 - 09/19/08 09:30 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Most he has taken was 7 mg / kg

600 mg @ 86 kg (190 pounds)

Also he is very mature and intelligent. (~130 - 140 IQ)


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8956574 - 09/19/08 10:48 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

IQ tests mean nothing.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: skin_]
    #8956612 - 09/19/08 10:59 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I'd say wait til he's 18 but that's just me


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: skin_]
    #8956620 - 09/19/08 11:01 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Well, high SAT scores, A's in honor classes, etc. etc.

I don't understand what age has to do with it, what does it matter if he is 15, 18, or 21?


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: skin_]
    #8956636 - 09/19/08 11:06 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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IQ tests mean nothing.




not true.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: g00ru]
    #8956715 - 09/19/08 11:24 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't understand what age has to do with it, what does it matter if he is 15, 18, or 21?




because if you ever even get cauht with a minor, and your both on shrooms, you'll get pinned with giving a minor a schedule 1 drug, and that can put you in prison.

besides, let the minors find thier own drugs. i had to when i was a minor, its like a right of passage.

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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: 513orangejuice]
    #8956740 - 09/19/08 11:31 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, well, hypothetically what does it matter if it is 2 15 year olds, or 2 18 year olds, or 2 21 year olds. So no Non-minor to minor.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8956799 - 09/19/08 11:47 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Ok, well, hypothetically what does it matter if it is 2 15 year olds, or 2 18 year olds, or 2 21 year olds. So no Non-minor to minor.




well, if its 2 15 year olds, then they wouldnt get in as much shit as 2 18 year olds, or 21 olds, but al would get easy time cuz all are considered young. If the minors didnt even get in trouble before, they might be in jail for a couple weeks. My first charge was for stealing a car, and i was like 12. Only did 2 weeks, and got probation. it was bullshit tho, cuz i didnt steal a car, I didnt even know how to drive, hell! I STILL DONT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE! i dont care, driving scares me, and i can walk to work. i have a.d.d. and would wreck in like 3 seconds. lol im kinda that person in your group of friends thats not aloud to hold sharp knives, or be responsible for something more than mabie a plant lol

dude, i so thought you meant 215 year olds, ensted of two 15 year olds for like 10 minutes,... i was like "what"?


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: g00ru]
    #8956833 - 09/20/08 12:03 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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IQ tests mean nothing.




not true.




Besides having an impressive piece of paper. Having a high IQ won't make life any easier.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: polantis]
    #8956887 - 09/20/08 12:21 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Wow what a fucked up thread this is.

My advice would be to somehow steer your idiot friend away from hard drugs.  There is nothing glorious about them, they will only lead to trouble.

But how about Darwinism huh?  I suppose we can just let him weed himself out from the rest of us.  Won't take long by the looks of it.:headbang:


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: polantis]
    #8956897 - 09/20/08 12:22 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

It's still different than saying that "IQ tests mean nothing."

Some people know the results of their IQ tests and don't reveal them, whether they're high or low.  Others reveal them.  When they are revealed, usually it's just by word of mouth, so you have to take someone's word for it anyway.  You can either say that your IQ is [whatever] and hope that the number speaks for itself or you can just assert that you think you have some idea of where your intelligence lies.  Either way, what another person makes of a verbal claim about your own intelligence, can be considered entirely separate of what they think about IQ tests.

For example, even though I'm not sure that IQ tests measure what I think 'intelligence' is, there's no ambiguity in what I'd be trying to say if I were to say, "I score 145 regularly on IQ tests."  In some ways, what you think about IQ tests is irrelevant.

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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: Plasmid]
    #8957235 - 09/20/08 01:54 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Not pulling my own cock, but supposedly I have a high IQ, and was accelerated through school.
My point is that, even though I'm technically smart, I still go through the same problems as anyone else. I probably understand complex topics a little easier than the average joe. But I won't be making any significant discovery's in physics anytime soon.

In fact, I think there's more than one type of smart
If you were to give a Shaman an IQ it probably would be very low, does this mean they are not smart?


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: Plasmid]
    #8957662 - 09/20/08 05:36 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

i think dude is too young to be fucking around with hallucinogens.

i was 23 before i tried.  and im glad i waited,  it gave me a better perspective.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: Plasmid]
    #8957714 - 09/20/08 06:26 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I think doing DXM is worse than mushrooms or acid. Hell. I do Ecstasy and I wouldn't touch DXM. Everything I've heard of deleriants gives me the impression that they're not for me.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8958686 - 09/20/08 02:17 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't understand what age has to do with it, what does it matter if he is 15, 18, or 21?




The fact that a person's brain isn't fully developed at 15 would be my primary concern.  We all know mushrooms are a very safe drug, but I think the jury is still out on what kind of negative effects are possible on a tripper of that young an age.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: polantis]
    #8959436 - 09/20/08 05:33 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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If you were to give a Shaman an IQ it probably would be very low, does this mean they are not smart?




Why would a shaman probably get a low score on an IQ test?

Regardless of their IQ test score, I don't think that there's any reason to think that shamans would be more intelligent than the average person.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: Sid]
    #8959443 - 09/20/08 05:36 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I think doing DXM is worse than mushrooms or acid. Hell. I do Ecstasy and I wouldn't touch DXM. Everything I've heard of deleriants gives me the impression that they're not for me.




Big fucking deal.  I think that there's more evidence to cause concern about MDMA use than DXM.  You wouldn't touch DXM?  So fucking what?  You do seem to be implying that you think it's a deleriant, which it isn't.

All I was saying is that if the guy could handle a relatively heavy DXM trip, then shrooms or acid should be like a baby ride next to the DXM experience.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: Plasmid]
    #8959478 - 09/20/08 05:45 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

DXM is far different from any deliernt.

And MDMA is probably worse for you than a robo-trip..


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    #8959866 - 09/20/08 07:33 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

dxm is a dissociative not a deleriant


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    #8960829 - 09/20/08 11:47 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

my advice is that you shouldn't be giving this kid any more drugs, he is still young and in most cases, kids this age don't even know what they want out of their lifes, they're not suitable for responsable use whatsoever, i'm not saying this is his case but it sure looks like it.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: Plasmid]
    #8965854 - 09/21/08 11:58 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I think doing DXM is worse than mushrooms or acid. Hell. I do Ecstasy and I wouldn't touch DXM. Everything I've heard of deleriants gives me the impression that they're not for me.




Big fucking deal.  I think that there's more evidence to cause concern about MDMA use than DXM.  You wouldn't touch DXM?  So fucking what?  You do seem to be implying that you think it's a deleriant, which it isn't.

All I was saying is that if the guy could handle a relatively heavy DXM trip, then shrooms or acid should be like a baby ride next to the DXM experience.




I really think you're comparing apples and oranges.  Yes, you're way more fucked up on DXM, but the ramifications of an acid or shrooms trip can be so much more powerful than DXM.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: g00ru]
    #8965915 - 09/22/08 12:16 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I think doing DXM is worse than mushrooms or acid. Hell. I do Ecstasy and I wouldn't touch DXM. Everything I've heard of deleriants gives me the impression that they're not for me.




Big fucking deal.  I think that there's more evidence to cause concern about MDMA use than DXM.  You wouldn't touch DXM?  So fucking what?  You do seem to be implying that you think it's a deleriant, which it isn't.

All I was saying is that if the guy could handle a relatively heavy DXM trip, then shrooms or acid should be like a baby ride next to the DXM experience.




I really think you're comparing apples and oranges.  Yes, you're way more fucked up on DXM, but the ramifications of an acid or shrooms trip can be so much more powerful than DXM.




What do you mean by the ramifications are much more powerful.


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Re: Looking to start a friend, wanted others opinion [Re: gurknel]
    #8965964 - 09/22/08 12:27 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

i think he means damage and after effects


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