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 ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo 
#8607961 - 07/08/08 02:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I went outside today because I was going to empty my LC Jar on a few piles of aged leeched hpoo piles outside, because I will be making a bigger Master Culture. Anyway, I went outside and found quite a few piles inhabited by this white mushroom.
The mycelium in the poo looked really weak and not very rhizo. It was very cloudy but not thick mycelium just a weak mycelial network in the poo when I examined it.
Anyway these baby's were stickign straight out, one of em is ready to drop spores, there were pins all over, and again I have no idea what these are. I don't expect cubes, I know they don't grow native here. I just want to know what they are and if they are edible, poisonous, ect. Might print it and grow it in a jar for fun off a cake.
With all the rain and humidity and retarded ass weather we've had this year, I think a higher power might be trying to promote an attempt at a nice outdoor patch.
Comments feedback Appreciated.
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 Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8607974 - 07/08/08 02:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you notice any bluing??
Looks like Panaeolus semiovatus var. phalaenarum (=P. antillarum). If you notice intense bluing where the mushroom is damaged, then it is Panaeolus cyanescens, however, I don't see any blue, so I think it is the former.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: CureCat]
#8607978 - 07/08/08 02:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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No Blueing that I saw immediately.
After they sat picked there was no blueing either.
Pans don't grow in Wisconsin do they? No blueing though. any clue?
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8607991 - 07/08/08 02:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, Panaeolus semiovatus var. phalaenarum.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608014 - 07/08/08 02:28 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Panaeolus antillarum does grow in Wisconsin and I think that is what you have.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8608027 - 07/08/08 02:33 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Really?
I went back out and picked a hunk of poo with a pin on it.
I didn't think actives grew in WI...
I was just gonna try my hand at stabalizing a wild likely poisonous wild mushroom.
Well neato. Any other ideas here's a pin
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608066 - 07/08/08 02:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Brain Fart said:
Really?
I went back out and picked a hunk of poo with a pin on it.
I didn't think actives grew in WI...
I was just gonna try my hand at stabalizing a wild likely poisonous wild mushroom.
Well neato. Any other ideas here's a pin
It sounds like you think you have an active species in hand. You do not.
Alan said Panaeolus Antillarum grows in your area. They are NOT active.
Panaeolus Cyanescens (active) does not grow in Wisconsin.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: El Zorro]
#8608080 - 07/08/08 02:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got it. I did some searching for Panaeolus antillarum after he ID'd it and saw that only Pan Cyans are active.
Almost pee'd my pants yo....lol
Who walks out to their field to inoculate some piles with cube myc and finds a field of already grown Mush?
Woulda been to good to be true lol. I'm gonna print em and grow em on cakes for fun.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608102 - 07/08/08 02:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didn't think actives grew in WI...
Actives do grow in every state.
The most common active by far in Wisconsin is Panaeolus subbalteatus.
Wiscokid found some active Conocybe cyanopus.
There are probably also some active Gymnopilus and Pluteus.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8608169 - 07/08/08 03:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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What climate would they be found in?
Fields on Poo, Or in the shaded wet marshlands?
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608180 - 07/08/08 03:16 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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You know your breaking the rules right?
subbs grow in lawns and on poop sometimes
gyms grow in the woods on dead logs
try the search engine for Wiscokid and Conocybe cyanopus
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608199 - 07/08/08 03:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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>I got it. I did some searching for Panaeolus antillarum after he ID'd it and
>saw that only Pan Cyans are active.
Panaeolus semiovatus var. phalaenarum (=P. antillarum)
>Who walks out to their field to inoculate some piles with cube myc and finds a
>field of already grown Mush?
>Woulda been to good to be true lol.
It could happen, it's not terribly unlikely.
>I'm gonna print em and grow em on cakes for fun.
That's the spirit.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608202 - 07/08/08 03:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Brain Fart said:Who walks out to their field to inoculate some piles with cube myc and finds a field of already grown Mush?
Woulda been to good to be true lol.
Happens to me everytime i go to my field. But nature has already inoculated all the poo piles for me. Cubes everywhere you look. Move to Texas 
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608306 - 07/08/08 03:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Brain Fart said:
I got it. I did some searching for Panaeolus antillarum after he ID'd it and saw that only Pan Cyans are active.
Almost pee'd my pants yo....lol
Who walks out to their field to inoculate some piles with cube myc and finds a field of already grown Mush?
Woulda been to good to be true lol. I'm gonna print em and grow em on cakes for fun.
That's what I thought.
I could just see you getting all excited and shit.
Glad to hear you actually did the research and came to an informed conclusion.
Very rare these days.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: El Zorro]
#8608536 - 07/08/08 04:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I went back out after reading ebcause I heard actives often grow alongside non-actives.
Picked all of em in a few yard radius.
A bunch bruised blue/black and I set those aside and dumped the others that showed no obvious sign of bruising.
I am uploading pics of the bruised ones after this bowl of victory in having fun examinign fungi today.
Cross my fingers? 
Edit: Back from bowl here they are. Comments?
After picking
A non-bruising comparison
caps on plate leaving DARK black spores
Edited by Brain Fart (07/08/08 05:13 PM)
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608551 - 07/08/08 05:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hope you got some actives but i dont think actives grow on poop in your area... maybe subbs but the ones i found on poop dont really bruise blue
the actives your looking for are in the woods or in lawns...
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: implee]
#8608603 - 07/08/08 05:14 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is in the woods.
The horses pen runs all around a forested area as well as a pasteur.
I love my horsies 
pics posted above
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Edited by Brain Fart (07/08/08 05:15 PM)
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608621 - 07/08/08 05:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont mean in the woods like horse poop in the woods... i mean on dead logs and stuff (where gyms tend to grow)
Those arent active :\ too shiny to be copes plus copes dont grow in your area
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: implee]
#8608651 - 07/08/08 05:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are dead logs too, and compost. =D
They might be shiny because they were in the sun drying?
They bruise blue and have a black print. I don't think their active either, I would find it highly unlikely.
But if these are bruising blue doesn't that have something to do with them beign active?
Just asking questions, thanks guys! I'm learning alot.
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Re: ID Request - Wisconsin - Unidentified Growing on Hpoo [Re: Brain Fart]
#8608663 - 07/08/08 05:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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are you sure they were bruising blue?
sometimes when they get old they get dark...
or they get a bit darker gray when handled..
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