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Anonymous #1

Is it wrong to get an animal high?
    #8588148 - 07/02/08 05:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I would have to say most of my friends who smoke and have pets have gotten them stoned, but where would you draw the line? In my opinion it's fine to smoke up your dog or cat, my cat even purrs now when he smells weed or sees me pull out the bong since he loves being high.

Once I gave him shrooms, he was pretty mellow the whole trip and seemed like he was enjoying it and was just looking at everything very closely.

Do you get stoned with your pet, do you share other drugs besides weed with your furry friend, do you think I'm an asshole for smoking up my cat? Let's hear your opinion!


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Anonymous #2

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8588179 - 07/02/08 05:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Animals have been known to self-administer hallucinogens in the wild. We are just an animal and hallucinogens have most likely been around longer than man, so I find it arrogant to think animals/pets should necessarily be deprived of tripping. If you're going to to do it, at least allow the animal to decide whether to consume or not.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8588187 - 07/02/08 05:24 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

My cat got tested one time and for the test they had to give him a jab of ketamine.

So my kitty's home, stoned as fuck, bumping into stuff and not caring and I was thinking YOU LUCKY BASTARD :crankey:

Its been years and I still haven't ran into Ketamine.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #8588194 - 07/02/08 05:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I was wondering if mushrooms could have any sort of therapeutic value for traumatized or mistreated pets.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8588210 - 07/02/08 05:31 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I say it's not right.  Your pet didn't ask for it, it does not know what drugs are or why its senses are suddenly going crazy.  Would you dose a human friend without their knowledge?  Especially if you don't know how much a given dosage will affect them?

Your pet may happen to enjoy it, but it may also have a bad experience, and it won't have anyone to talk it down or help it in any way.  Animals are perfectly content to be sober, let them be.

If your cat seeks out secondhand bong smoke that's one thing, but don't feed it mushrooms.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #8588719 - 07/02/08 08:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I would say it's not right. Blowing smoke into their face but my friend went over the line. She has a 10 lb Jack Russell Terrier and she gave it hash balls at night so the dog can be high with her. She then had a gram of really good Afghooey hashish. She broke off 1/3 of it and made the dog eat it. The dog was all good(keep in mind 1/4th would have gotten me high and I'm 200 lbs. Just think what affect it would have on a 10 lb dog)The dog was cool, started staring at things in the room calmly panting very very slow. Then she heard a sound outside and ran until she couldn't run anymore and just flopped to the ground and started staring at the ceiling. It was so sad, the dog couldn't control it. The dog was walking drunk and was hitting everything, dog even tripped over the front paw which is odd lol. It ended up laying down staring at things breathing very slow. Then it started getting scary. My friends friend took it into her room and it ran around trying to catch it's tail until it lost its balance and fell off the 3 1/2 foot bed onto it's head. Then just laid there and stared at the ceiling, then it started foaming from the mouth and going into convulsions. She picked up the dog and held her for another 4 hours. Good thing the dog ate fruit or it would've died from dehydration.
I am against giving dogs anything but a little smoke in the face/ears and hot boxing is fine.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #8588748 - 07/02/08 08:37 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

People who insist on getting their pets high are fucking weird. Talk about lonely.
I think those people should get some human friends to smoke with. Leave the poor animals alone, you psychos. :psycho:


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Anonymous #7

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #8588833 - 07/02/08 08:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

No, animals do not like hallucinogens and will not self-administer them.

There are documented cases of animals in the wild eating hallucinogens more than once and the evidence that they do so is purely anecdotal (e.g. someone saying: "hey, I once saw an animal do this").


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Anonymous #6

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #8588923 - 07/02/08 09:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

There are no documented cases*?


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Anonymous #8

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #8589529 - 07/03/08 12:16 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Somewhere on shroomery a youtube video was posted, it was a clip from a documentary about leopards in a jungle that would eat hallucinogenic plants from time to time. often before hunting I think. The post I saw was asking for the video because it had been posted previously so its been posted at least twice in the Pub now.

Yes, animals do choose to get high. This is a regular occurrence among many species.

SOmeone said people who get their animals high are lonely. That seems like an odd conclusion to me. I have seen several animals it high at parties where quite a few people are. People think its funny I have found. Ive never seen a connection to loneliness though


As far as shrooms, I suppose if you really wanted to give a cat some, you could feed it some in a way that it would really really remember eating it, then offer it some more in the same way.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #8589748 - 07/03/08 01:17 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
No, animals do not like hallucinogens and will not self-administer them.

There are documented cases of animals in the wild eating hallucinogens more than once and the evidence that they do so is purely anecdotal (e.g. someone saying: "hey, I once saw an animal do this").




load of shit

koalas get high on eucalyptus leaves and i have never seen an eveil human stuffing them down their throats

i seen a koala stuffed with arrow shafts once though,thing looked like colonel custer after he muttered his famous last 'hoorah'

which i now think means hurry

id love to get someone who loves animals more than peoples pets in my hands,id do more than blow them out just to spite them

people shouldnt love animals so much,it can make other people jealous and nasty


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Anonymous #10

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #8589843 - 07/03/08 01:37 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

dont cats choose to get high on catnip?


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Anonymous #11

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #8589846 - 07/03/08 01:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

What cat actually ate mushrooms? That doesn't sound very realistic.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8590302 - 07/03/08 04:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Is it wrong to be strong?

You be the judge.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #8590324 - 07/03/08 04:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

SOmeone said people who get their animals high are lonely. That seems like an odd conclusion to me. I have seen several animals it high at parties where quite a few people are. People think its funny I have found. Ive never seen a connection to loneliness though




OK, so they're smoking alone and they want a buddy to keep them company, or they're doing it for their own entertainment at a party.
Unless the animal persistently exhibits a preference for weed smoke and the after-effects, people shouldn't blow it in their faces. A bit of weed isn't so bad. (As far as we can tell.)
Mushrooms are plain stupid. Do I need to show you the videos of feline muscle spasms induced by low doses of LSD? (Symptoms almost identical to psilocybin administration.)


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Anonymous #7

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #8590590 - 07/03/08 07:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

And this is exactly what I meant.  Ask people if animals like to take hallucinogens and the best response here is:

"I saw a youtube video once..."

The evidence (like I said previously) is purely anecdotal.  Someone saw an animal do it once or twice, and there is no evidence they went back again.

Even if an animal eats a hallucinogenic/psychoactive plant, there is no way to determine if the animal can make the connection between ingestion and hallucinogenic effects.

Koalas getting high on eucalyptus?  please.  There's nothing in there that would cause more then minimal psychoactivity.

Put an animal in the lab, give it the chance to take a classical hallucinogen, and they won't do it.  Pure and simple.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #8590693 - 07/03/08 09:04 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
And this is exactly what I meant.  Ask people if animals like to take hallucinogens and the best response here is:

"I saw a youtube video once..."

The evidence (like I said previously) is purely anecdotal.  Someone saw an animal do it once or twice, and there is no evidence they went back again.

Even if an animal eats a hallucinogenic/psychoactive plant, there is no way to determine if the animal can make the connection between ingestion and hallucinogenic effects.

Koalas getting high on eucalyptus?  please.  There's nothing in there that would cause more then minimal psychoactivity.

Put an animal in the lab, give it the chance to take a classical hallucinogen, and they won't do it.  Pure and simple.




QFT


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Anonymous #13

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #8591587 - 07/03/08 03:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Gettin animals high?
What if they die?
Talk about immoral
clearly you ain't never seen a jacked up squirrel
Eyes so dilated he couldn't tell
if he was in heaven or if he was in hell
Motherfuckin SHOW AND TELL


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Anonymous #4

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #8592108 - 07/03/08 06:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Gettin animals high?
What if they die?
Talk about immoral
clearly you ain't never seen a jacked up squirrel
Eyes so dilated he couldn't tell
if he was in heaven or if he was in hell
Motherfuckin SHOW AND TELL




Okay, enough of this shit.  It was never funny


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Anonymous #14

Re: Is it wrong to get an animal high? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #8592146 - 07/03/08 06:12 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Goddamn squirrels and rabbits ate my shroom patches outside. Hope you enjoyed it you little shits! :thumbdown:


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