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Pot has no known harmfull effects to pregnant mothers or the fetus/baby she is carrying. This is complete bullshit. this is one of the saddest things you can hear about.

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I never said it was ok. I just said that it has no known side effects or anything that would harm a baby. Yet it is perfectly legal to smoke cigarettes while pregnant that has been proven to cause horrible birth problems. I was trying to point out how stupid it all is without saying what was already said. I wouldn't smoke pot if i was a woman and preganat, because it isn't her choice to introduce something to another person without consent. try getting consent from a fetus. Thats how i feel about abortion in ANY cercumstance as well. A woman that is preganat is sharing her body from the moment of conception, so she should treat her body as well as possible. A womans body is her own buisness, until she is sharing it with a lifeform that depends on the health of her body.

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Felinor said:
even if weed has no "known" side effects to a newborn, smoking while pregnant is still unhealthy. not that i think the child should be taken away for it though.

*edit* dont they give you drugs during pregnancy to help the pain?... isnt that hypocritical? just a thought..

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Yes, and the intravenous narcotics go DIRECTLY into the child, as far as I understand. Within about 6 minutes, according to my sister, who is in the business of delivering babies.

Was the birth very early? She should have known better, you cannot trust a public institution, and never ever when blood is going to be on the table.

This is bullshit. Utter, utter bullshit.




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I just said that it has no known side effects or anything that would harm a baby.  Yet it is perfectly legal to smoke cigarettes while pregnant that has been proven to cause horrible birth problems.

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While there's little medical evidence on the direct effects of marijuana in pregnancy, several studies have associated regular use of the drug with fetal growth retardation and low birthweight. On the other hand, occasional use of marijuana, even during the first trimester, has not been shown to cause birth defects.

One reason why the effects of marijuana are unclear is that those who use it often use other drugs as well, including alcohol and cigarettes. In addition, marijuana itself contains a large number of substances, many of which have not been identified, and could be contaminated with chemicals. It's therefore difficult to separate the effects of marijuana from these other substances.

Most of the studies that have been carried out on smoking in pregnancy have examined the effect of cigarette smoke rather than marijuana. However, it's clear that, whether a pregnant woman smokes tobacco or marijuana, the smoke itself puts a tremendous strain on a developing baby. Smoking is associated with placenta praevia, premature birth, low birthweight (which means that babies are more susceptible to infections) and an increased risk of cot death (SIDS).

While the potential long-term consequences of using marijuana during pregnancy are still uncertain, it should be considered an avoidable risk.

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Basic common sense would tell you not to use drugs while pregnant. Using any drugs while pregnant or while breast feeding is pretty fucking ignorant, trashy, and selfish IMO.

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How did CPS find cannabis in the kids body? Or do CPS just barge into homes of newborns and demand they pee into a cup.

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If things keep going the way they have, they may one day do exactly that.

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These are good parents.

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They did a study in Jamaica, with the rasta women... Even among "heavy" users, the babies turned out fine. Oddly enough, the "normal" babies developed slower and had more behavioral problems than the infants from heavy pot users.

It was in a book I found at the library, so I can't quote a source. Maybe someone can find something.

In any event, I'd say toking a bowl once in awhile is FAR better than smoking ANY cigatettes during pregnancy.

If I had a pregnant wife who was having issues, I'd give her weed before some pharm, that's for damn sure.

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These are good parents.

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Are you sure? Any contrary evidence?

I understand someone smoking amphetamine, (as many do legally in the US/UK, when pregnant, due to prescription business), but marijuana? I'm seeing only smart children from parents that smoked weed, GIVEN IT WAS NOT ABUSIVELY, i.e "moderately".) BUT, opiates, (given to many women during the 72 hrs. prior to delivery), and amphetamines, (ALMOST ALWAYS given to the deliveree, often without conscent, to dilate the cervix)... what the fuck. Weed? Really?

A drug is a drug? True, but marijuana is almost certainly safer than even the APAP given to pregnant women, aside from anti-nausea meds, ect.





~Monk