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I am writing a paper on it for my Philosophy class.
7-10 pages.
Due tomorrow at 3:30 pm eastern standard time.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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Sounds easy.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8079401 - 02/27/08 11:44 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's when 2 gay people get married.
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Yea it should be. I just need to get started which is always the hard part.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8079433 - 02/27/08 11:50 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm rather fond of the "An extremely controversial yet crucial subject in modern society is (insert subject here)."
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: jewunit]
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I'm rather fond of the "An extremely controversial yet crucial subject in modern society is (insert subject here)."
There ya go!  Couldn't have put it better myself!
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That essay would be hella easy for any class EXCEPT philosophy. Well, I guess it depends on the teach
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Ferris]
#8079594 - 02/28/08 12:26 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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My personal opinion is marriage is typically thought of as sort of a religious ceremony but it has become the norm, in that two atheists are not necessarily having a religious ceremony. I think people who are otherwise not religious, because MOST people believe in god, have some religion in their ceremony (getting married by a minister etc) you do not need to even have a ceremony to be legally married. (I think that is called getting eloped, could be wrong about the technical word)
It really comes down to the only thing it means is that according to a paper from the state, you are "married". which in some ways provides things like tax breaks etc as well as other positive things that people get married for. Also it is a sign of loyalty and commitment (yes adultery can come into play but I imagine most husbands and wives do not cheat on one another)
So many people are opposed to homosexuals marrying because it violates their perceived sense of religion or simply because they dont like the idea, they think it is a heterosexual thing.
I am a heterosexual and I really dont see what the issue is. I know some states have enacted laws sworn in by the voters that states only an adult male (a man) can only legally marry an adult female (a woman) although I am under the assumption that for the most part, this is defacto anyway because although homosexuals may choose to have ceremonies and call themselves married, they are not legally so in the eyes of the state even if they live in a state without said recently enacted laws (most of them by the way)
I would consider, for example, the "marriage" between Melissa Etheridge and her wife, actress Tammy Lynn Michaels to be a marriage because they had a ceremony, and they consider themselves married. I consider them married and do not give a flying rats ass about some piece of paper from the state making it official. (dont forget you need also need a license in the first place to get married)
I thought before a lot of the civil rights that started to get into this as of recently that vermont was the only state you could legally marry two people of the same sex.
I am heterosexual and I really dont see how it is any of my business if two homosexuals want to have sex, or to get married. it does not affect me in any way. I cant stop them from doing what they do nor do I want to in the first place. I could be really bigoted against homosexuals if I wanted to but I could never do anything because homosexuality has always been around and always will be around. Many animals can be homosexual as well (everything from chimpanzees to dolphins to rats have been proven to be capable of homosexuality)
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I can't figure out how in this day and age gay marriage is still considered taboo. Everyone i know has a relative or friend that is gay. My best friend is gay, so obviously i think it is stupid to deny him the right to get married. I thought religion and the state were supposed to be separate. Yet you have to get a license to get married, but they say gay marriage is against god. That is their whole argument.
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homosexuals have every right to be just as miserable as us straight people, i say let'em get hitched.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: sui]
#8079678 - 02/28/08 12:47 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea I agree. Now I just need to write something down....
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: sui]
#8079681 - 02/28/08 12:48 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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page 1 : GAY
page 2: PEOPLE
page 3: ARE
page 4: NOT
page 5: REAL
page 6: PEOPLE
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Quote:
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page 1 : I
page 2: AM
page 3: A
page 4: FLAMBOYANT
page 5: FRIVOLOUS
page 6: FAGGOT
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8079696 - 02/28/08 12:51 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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you are? that sucks im sorry to hear about that
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Anyways, I already have 2 pages written critiquing an article about this subject.
So, I just need to expand that I think. Write a page or 2 about possible critiques those bible fuckers could say to me. Then retort and be like "no mang you are wrong stfu"
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page 1 : GAY
page 2: PEOPLE
page 3: ARE
page 4: NOT
page 5: REAL
page 6: PEOPLE
at least they help the population problem. they're nice people too. but if you think they shouldn't exist then get into genetics and find the fucked up gene that causes it and prevent it from repeating.
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upon research:
At present, Massachusetts is the only state in the United States that allow same-sex couples to obtain marriage licenses.
this applies to things like claiming inheritance and other benefits of marriage that opposite sex marriage can have.
most states ban gay marriage defacto, as there is no specific law stating that you cannot, per se (I think) but other factors in place make it so that marriages and civil unions are defacto illegal. Only New Mexico and one other state recognize foreign marriages (I dont know if that applies to all or just same sex, I would imagine same sex or there would be a lot of people married in other countries whom would have to remarry here) so that if two homosexuals marry in a country where they can do that (Spain, Holland) these are the only two states that recognize that whatsoever. Some European countries and even some states recognize civil unions, although I dont know what the fuck this means, other than less perceived benefits (kinda like not giving women or people recognized as negros the right to vote, which was a fact in our country at one time I do not know how that worked per se, is a quadroon, meaning 3/4ths caucasian and 1/4 black allowed to vote, thats a different subject)
this is one of those things that is convoluted in america simply because we have 50 different states with 50 different lsets of laws.
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at least they help the population problem. they're nice people too. but if you think they shouldn't exist then get into genetics and find the fucked up gene that causes it and prevent it from repeating.
there is no fucking gene that causes homosexuality! A gay woman or a gay man who does have heterosexual sex and has offspring (it happens all of the time) is no more likely to have a homosexual child than anyone else. People are born homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual. it has nothing to do with genetics and that said, nobody really knows why a person is born with any particular sexual orientation.
homosexuals, male or female who RAISE a child (whether adopted or the result of artificial insemination) are proven to be no more likely to have the child grow up to be homosexual than a man and a woman who have a child. Your sexual orientation is born into you.
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yeah, she's funny and somewhat interesting. not a beauty queen, but not bad lookin. i'd feel quite honored to fuck janine garofalo. -tiny_rabid_birds
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butt sex
better homes and gardens
and fruity mixed drinks
what else?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: aiyobro]
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Learn to use the reply feature.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8079844 - 02/28/08 01:37 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Being bi, half of me is allowed to get married!
God forbid, enforced by man!
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thats one of the worst smiley things ive ever seen. 5 shrooms for creativity.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: frisky_]
#8079862 - 02/28/08 01:45 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea it is pretty retarded. Hence why I am writing a paper arguing for it. I found this critique of an article I had to read.
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~bbelknap/mtppakaluk.html
I am going to base some of my points off of that.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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I got like 3 pages done. If I can get 5 pages done tonight that would be sweet. I can do the other 2 tomorrow during the day before this is due. It is only a draft anyways.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8080011 - 02/28/08 03:15 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea it should be. I just need to get started which is always the hard part.
Just START  (anywhere)
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Merkin]
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Yea I'm moving along. The paper sounds really disorganized to me right now...but it is only a draft that is worth 10% of our final grade. The final paper itself is worth 50% of our grade.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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Gay Marriage?
Please, allowing gays to get married will break up more relationships than the cabana boy review coming to town.
Can you imagine two gay men planning a wedding? I can hear my friend Steven right now "Girl, I left his ass. He wanted jovial grape napkins, and I wanted misty lavender. HELLO! jovial grape does not say 'Have a long and happy marriage'! It says 'Happy 8th birthday Sally May'!"
And Lesbians? Please. We'd fight over who gets to wear the Tux.
ok, ok... seriously though.
I think this law is unconstitutional. The government sees me as a citizen every two weeks when it takes me taxes... yet I don't get the same rights as everyone else? It's unfair. If you don't want me to get married by the state, fine, what the fuck ever. Give me a discount on my taxes then. If I don't get the full rights as an American Citizen, then I shouldn't have to pay as much.
And shut the fuck up already about the "sanctity" of marriage. Please. The sanctity of marriage was out the fucking window the second a drive-thru chapel was erected in Vegas. The divorce rate is 50%. There is no sanctity anymore. All we want is a tax cut and better credit.
Almost every major company recognizes same-gendered partners on their insurance and beneficiaries on the 401(k) and whatnot... and most companies now include sexual orientation in their anti-harassment policies.
Once enough of those old geezers up on capitol hill die off, I'm sure some type of same-sex union will be recognized by the gov. Probably won't be called a marriage, but it'll be some type of civil union, or what have you.
When I was in high school I wrote a pro-gay essay. This guy in my class wrote an anti-gay essay, and was a real dick to me.
Imagine my surprise when 6 years after graduating I pull up his myspace page to see him wearing nothing but a jock strap, fishnet panty hose, and sparkly body gel. Fucking fag.
Anyway, gay marriage, it's like beating a dead horse at this point. Just one of those things I guess.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Merkin]
#8080111 - 02/28/08 04:05 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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mild toke sessions really help me write papers. 
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8080152 - 02/28/08 04:29 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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stimulants for me i think 
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Merkin]
#8080155 - 02/28/08 04:30 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im already jacked on coffee.
Weed helps me focus my ultra fast coffee thoughts.
The perfect plan? 
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8080177 - 02/28/08 04:42 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'm giving Yerba Mate a go.. This is my 2nd time.. I must say it's a pretty good stimulant.. no jiteriness like coffee.. but just as good.
Now to do some chem h/w 
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Merkin]
#8080182 - 02/28/08 04:45 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I need to try that. The jitters I get from coffee usually make me relapse and start smoking cigs again. 
I guess me getting this paper done outweighs the needing 1 cig thing.
I have 4.5 pages done. Goin to sleep for 5 hours, take a quiz, then write 2.5 pages. Fuckin' A.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8080204 - 02/28/08 04:56 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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good luck!
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so this "paper" is really just an apology letter and your "philosophy class" is really just your father? ok i understand...
"daddy please dont be mad at me its not my fault my stomach and anus crave semen on a regular basis..."
have fun with your "domestic partnership" faggot
You are a worthless piece of garbage. Please die.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
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The obvious counter-argument is that allowing gay marriage will lead to a slippery-slope of "marriages".
Of course we should respect the life choices of others, and their beliefs by allowing gay marriages.
But what about my beliefs on polygamy? Shouldn't I be allowed to have a "civil union" with 5 different women, and allow ALL of us to get tax breaks and benefits? What about marriage to minors? What about a civil union with an animal?
Where do you draw the line?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: badchad]
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If I have to hear one more comparison of gay marriage to people getting married to dogs! 
And why is it always dogs?
Why not a cat, llama, walrus, house fly or sea cucumber?
The bottom of slippery slopes are populated with pretty stoopid ideas.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
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The bottom of slippery slopes are populated with pretty stoopid ideas.
Agreed, but that middle isn't. What about polygamy? A lot of cultures allow a man to have more tha one wife. Should we not allow civil union between a man and multiple wives simply because we disagree with that view? blasphemy! That would be like banning gay marriage simply because we disagree with the concept.
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Smith, P. Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.
...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
Osmond, H. Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: badchad]
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The slippery slope argument has never been a valid one and is a fallacy in classic debate.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
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I personally have no problem with polygamy.
ODD SIDE NOTE: The people who practice
polygamy are probably the ones most appalled by gay marriage.
But yeah, if you want three wives...with three times the bitching and moaning...and barricading yourself in the garage when *that* time of the month comes around and they've all 'synchronized'?
Knock yourself out!
Now polygamous GAY marriage!
Now we're getting into an interesting conversation!
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
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Call it what you want (slippery slope or otherwise). As soon as you extend benefits to one group of people (via civil union), it is likely others will try to gain the same benefits. This is especially true when inclusion is based upon subjective opinion (e.g. "tradition")
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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
Osmond, H. Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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Funny how when people speak of gay marriage everyone thinks of two guys and out come the anal sex and dick sucking jokes before anyone would ever mention two girls. The only reason gay marriage is an issue is because of number 1, the biggest reason of all religion and then homophobia. What people do with their life is their own choice, you don't control the car they drive why control who they chose to live their life with. Writing a paper on gay marriage is like writing a paper on religion.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
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Allowing homosexual marriage is of a complete different caliber than allowing polygamous marriage. 2=2=2 no matter what sexes are involved. 2 does not = 3 in any case.
Think of it like absolute values. abs(-2)=abs(2).... despite the 'sign'
The important difference is not so much the sexes involved, but rather the number of persons.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: aiyobro]
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I have plenty of gay friends, and by and large they're more friendly/fun to be around than some of my straight friends 
I think that homosexuality is a completely natural part of life, and that believing it is a choice is simply ignorant. History has shown, across many species, that homosexuality is nothing new, and that it's just part of who people are.
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polygamous marriage is banned because the state has an interest in banning it. The Supreme Court ruled that this interest is determined by the general poverty level of polygamous marriages and the likelihood of abuse of the women and children in the group. This makes polygamy illegal. This is a completely baseless argument that will have to be overturned, because not all people who want multiple marriages are impoverished or assholes that beat their kids.
Gay marriage is a legal and civil issue, not a moral issue. The separation between church and state guarantees that a marriage certificate issued by the government has no bearing whatsoever on religion. The sanctity of marriage argument should have nothing to do with whether or not homosexuals should be allowed to legally marry. They should focus their efforts in banning gay marriage within their congregations, a practice I have absolutely no objection to.
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If I have to hear one more comparison of gay marriage to people getting married to dogs!
And why is it always dogs?
Why not a cat, llama, walrus, house fly or sea cucumber?
Not true, Ellen had a whole spiel about getting married to a goat.
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When I was in high school I wrote a pro-gay essay. This guy in my class wrote an anti-gay essay, and was a real dick to me.
Imagine my surprise when 6 years after graduating I pull up his myspace page to see him wearing nothing but a jock strap, fishnet panty hose, and sparkly body gel. Fucking fag.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Roadkill]
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Not true, Ellen had a whole spiel about getting married to a goat.
I missed that one.
I'm just sick of people equating gay sex with beastiality.
Maybe imagining two guys having greasy manlove is a bit disgusting to the average person...but imaging half the people I know having sex would be disgusting.
Doesn't mean I want to outlaw it.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
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it's on her stand up special "the beginning"... she's says something about the first place people go when talking about gay marriage is marriage to animals and she's like "Who thinks this? And they say WE'RE the scary ones!"
her stand up is funny. She can babble on for a bit, but for the most part it cracks me up.
My fave stand ups are still Robin Williams and George Carlin. Ellen's still a bit too clean, especially now that she hosts a daytime show and her audience is mostly soccer moms.
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Yeah, she's kinda funny when she rambles though...not in a HAHA way but just amusing.
My favs are: Lewis Black first and foremost and ...hmmm... dunno Eddie Izzard is kinda entertaining...not really 'funny' but again intellectually amusing.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
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And shut the fuck up already about the "sanctity" of marriage. Please. The sanctity of marriage was out the fucking window the second a drive-thru chapel was erected in Vegas. The divorce rate is 50%. There is no sanctity anymore. All we want is a tax cut and better credit.
Agreed, but some gays, and probably most gays dont just want tax cut and better credit, they want their ceremony (or sometimes elope) and they want to be able to call a person their spouse and say they are married.
The percentage of people with paraphilias, such as liking animals sexually is very very very small compared to the amount of people who are homosexual, which until the '70's was also considered a paraphilia in psychology until civil rights hit and changed that, and frankly homosexuality is simply too common and exists in lots of animals so cannot be classified anywhere near as weird as a person who fucks horses (or wants to) or has a sexual fascination with poop.
as far as marrying multiple people, well that is a matter of debate, polygany and polyandry has been practiced for various reasons, mostly cultural or religious since ancient times, and still goes on today. So did slavery, and still does, and I think slavery is an abomination, and I do not recognize multiple marriages as legitimate in my opinion. It completely defeats the purpose of marriage and makes your multiple wives or multiple husbands as objects.
BTW I did not spell polygamy wrong, polygamy encompasses polygany and polyandry.
Marriage to and between minors is well, some states like georgia allow a 16 year old to get married if shes pregnant, etc, but frankly I dont see anyone arguing that 14 year olds should be allowed to marry each other or anyone else.
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what about polygamous marriage to animals? Multiple species even?
What about animals getting married to each other? I got one of the dogs we used to own from a litter of puppies where the mama dog still lived with the daddy dog, why werent they married?
the girl dogs in the litter where both bitches and bastards.
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My favs are: Lewis Black first and foremost and ...hmmm... dunno Eddie Izzard is kinda entertaining...not really 'funny' but again intellectually amusing.
Izzard is quite intellectual in a lot of the things he talks about, and in others not. Probably more so than a lot of comics in the intellect.
But you can't really be funny for the most part without being smart in stand up. And you cannot be witty without being smart period.
we all have met that stupid guy who thinks hes witty, except that he is too stupid to understand what witty means and calls himself "funny" but then again looks are not everything.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
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My favs are: Lewis Black first and foremost and ...hmmm... dunno Eddie Izzard is kinda entertaining...not really 'funny' but again intellectually amusing.
Eddie Izzard is not homosexual, he's a heterosexual transvestite.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Veritas]
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A) Cannibuscharlie said, "Agreed, but some gays,
and probably most gays dont just want tax cut and better credit, they want their ceremony (or sometimes elope)
and they want to be able to call a person their spouse and say they are married."
...and?
B) Cannibuscharlie said, "So did slavery, and still does, and I think slavery is an abomination..."
I'm not sure which one but this sounds like a logical fallicy.
I.E.
A has been happening for a long time.
B has been happening for a long time.
I don't like A therefore B is bad too.
or were you correcting someone else who said
it's okay because it's been done for a long time? hmmm...
C) Cannibuscharlie said, "What about animals getting married to each other?
I got one of the dogs we used to own from a litter of puppies where the mama dog still lived with
the daddy dog, why werent they married?"
haha..because they're living in sin, so what? people do it too! 
Want to get your dogs hitched?
Go for it...marriage is a joke anyway.
It's for symbol addicts who don't realize that if you can't or don't want to stay with someone through the trials
of a lonnnng term relationship a piece of paper and a priest's blessing won't really help you.
BTW I'm married!
D) Veritus said, "Eddie Izzard is not homosexual, he's a heterosexual transvestite. "
Thanks for the clarification, professor.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
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You're welcome.  I'm an Izzard fan, and he makes it quite clear in his stand up routine that he likes girls. He also likes makeup, heels & women's clothing.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Veritas]
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Leave it to the British to think wearing a dress and high heels is bizarre and noteworthy behaviour.
I like him too, though!
I saw him on The Jon Stewart Show seven sheets to the wind... nearly falling out of his chair and he was still pulling witty connections out his ass!
Also saw him on the Henry Rollins show! Which was okay...I'm not a big rollins fan but eh...
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
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Thanks for turning my homework thread into a full out debate.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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hahaha.
It's off the tracks now.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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I think they should be allowed to get married on the moon. Just send em all up there and let 'em find water and redecorate. Watch how fast the space program would grow.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Cowgold]
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They have to be sent to the dark side of the moon though.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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What's the phil class? That would be the fundamental question to answer in figuring out how to write said paper. Chiefly, figure out what philosophers your prof. likes and focuses on, maybe what he wrote his dissertation on. If it's ethics, reference ethical theories. If it's some kind of weird social dynamics thing, then just make shit up.
Also, is it supposed to be an essay on the topic, or a position paper?
If it's a position paper, and it's ethics, you've got it in the bag, reference Bentham's utilitarian calculus, unless your prof dislikes the utilitarian view of ethics, then go with something else, social contract or sphere of personal liberties crap.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: crumblebum]
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Tangerines likes men. BTW I just started watch The Holy Mountain and it's strange as fuck.
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Tangerines likes men. BTW I just started watch The Holy Mountain and it's strange as fuck.
Good!!! That movie only gets stranger. Is that the type of movie you wanted?
If I make some brownies tomorrow I think I am going to watch that movie again.
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Tangerines likes men. BTW I just started watch The Holy Mountain and it's strange as fuck.
Good!!! That movie only gets stranger. Is that the type of movie you wanted?
If I make some brownies tomorrow I think I am going to watch that movie again.
Not really but I'm glad I'm watching it though. I'd prefer watching it high or tripping though.
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Yea watch it high it is much better. I think everyone needs to see that film once just to see how obscure cinematography can go. It is a good movie in itself for sure.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
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Yea watch it high it is much better. I think everyone needs to see that film once just to see how obscure cinematography can go. It is a good movie in itself for sure.
Is there some sort of underlying meaning in the movie?
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Only what you pull from it. First time I watched it I was stoned throughout and I found some sort of 'meaning' but I think it was only temporary. I am sure there is MAD symbolism in the movie.
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Is there some sort of underlying meaning in the movie?
Sure. It's one of those movies that builds itself up to break itself down, attempting to simultaneously take the viewer through different histories and levels of society and levels of self-awarement, leading towards enlightenment. The protagonist's attempt to attain enlightenment becomes the viewer's. I am not saying the movie is a success or a failure but it seems to me that the underlying aim of the movie is to build up elaborate metaphorical societies (all those characters on different planets) that acknowledge and ultimately critique vain and base human desires for power, money, sex, etc. These metaphorical caricatures of society are then destroyed/transcended, as the characters ascend the holy mountain in an attempt to be free from wants, desires, and elaborate hoaxes.
Ultimately the movie tells you in no uncertain terms to reject materiality, and then desire, and then all of the illusions created by human society (including the film itself) and return to the reality of the earth and be a hippy and rejoice in your value as a human being.
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first off, if you are going to quote, use the quote feature, thats what its there for. And before you say it, yes I am quoting my own quotes by quoting you for clarification.
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A) Cannibuscharlie said, "Agreed, but some gays,
and probably most gays dont just want tax cut and better credit, they want their ceremony (or sometimes elope)
and they want to be able to call a person their spouse and say they are married."
...and?
And what? Thats my statement. do you disagree with the statement or are you implying that its dumb.? I was responding to the person who says gays just want the tax cuts and benefits by saying thats not necessarily true. they could also be said symbol addicts.
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B) Cannibuscharlie said, "So did slavery, and still does, and I think slavery is an abomination..."
I'm not sure which one but this sounds like a logical fallicy.
I.E.
A has been happening for a long time.
B has been happening for a long time.
I don't like A therefore B is bad too.
or were you correcting someone else who said
it's okay because it's been done for a long time? hmmm..
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No, I am implying that just because polygamy has been around for a long time, that I dont agree with it on principle because slavery continues to be around, and for a really long time it was accepted practice until most civilized nations found it abominable. I dont know why you would even think that:
"A has been happening for a long time.
B has been happening for a long time.
I don't like A therefore B is bad too."
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) Cannibuscharlie said, "What about animals getting married to each other?
I got one of the dogs we used to own from a litter of puppies where the mama dog still lived with
the daddy dog, why werent they married?"
haha..because they're living in sin, so what? people do it too!
Want to get your dogs hitched?
Go for it...marriage is a joke anyway.
It's for symbol addicts who don't realize that if you can't or don't want to stay with someone through the trials
of a lonnnng term relationship a piece of paper and a priest's blessing won't really help you.
BTW I'm married!
I don't hold any religious beliefs that people who have children out of wedlock are "living in sin". A good friend of mine had a shotgun wedding in a sense, although it is pretty clear that they loved each other anyway. They waited quite a length of time after their son was born to get married and I don't really have a problem with that, that is their business and just because hes technically a "bastard" doesn't mean I dont like the little guy or think theres anything wrong with him. Even if I thought they where living in sin, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Thanks for the clarification, professor
are you just trying to be a stupid asshole? first of you question why I made a statement in response to a person by saying "and?" second you dont seem to follow prose and understand what people are trying to say very well and you are just argumentative, which only makes it worse because you argue about stupid shit and dont even understand what you are trying to debate about in the first place. Also, its not Cannibuscharlie, its Cannabischarlie, I am not the rapper, he doesnt spell it quite like that anyway, and the fact that you took the time to edit it to be wrong when you are copy and pasting anyway is simply retarded.
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They have to be sent to the dark side of the moon though.
There is no dark side of the moon.
Matter of fact its all dark.
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Fine be a technical fuckass.
FAR side of the moon. The side that we, on Earth, never ever ever ever see.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_side_of_the_Moon
And what the fuck do you mean it's all dark? That is a retarded statement if I ever read one.
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Pink Floyd reference. Nothing serious.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
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I have not read this post and will skip to my reply...
NO.
They cannot get married, marriage is a religious sacrament. Homosexuality is not condoned within the Christian faith. So NOOOOO
Marriage is for heterosexual people, not homosexual people.
They can become legally joined which is the same thing, butt nooo the whiny homo's want marriagge...
Shut the fuck up and be happy you can get joined, stop pushing for more, MARRIAGE IS NOT MEANT FOR HOMOSEXUALITY!!
Marriage is a step towards creating a union between a man and a woman so that they can reproduce and help keep the cycle of repopulation going.
Homosexuals don't reproduce, so this is ridiculous for them to want this.
Hey if your gay, wonderful, I don't care, but shut the fuck up about wanting to be married, you don't even know what it is about, you just want it because you can't fucking consider yourselves equal without it.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
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Marriage is meant for whatever the fuck I want it to mean. Be it financial stability, love, or some religious bullshit sacrament.
There are two versions of marriage: Religious version and the State version.
Sure Christians have every right to deny homosexual marriage.
The State should not deny it. Seperation of Church and state.....remember that lil clause that has gone out the door?
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Seperation of Church and state.....remember that lil clause that has gone out the door?
In my opinion it really didn't exist at all...
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: frisky_]
#8089725 - 03/01/08 02:52 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tangerines, why are homosexuals not satisfied with being legally joined?
Why do they need a peice of paper saying their "MARRIED"
It is the same as being Legally Joined.
It's BECAUSE THEY ARE A WHINY MINORITY
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8090031 - 03/01/08 04:18 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is because the state is involved in marriages, so all citizens are promised equality. If they want to be married, why shouldn't they? Are you worried protecting the "sanctity" of marriage between a man and a woman? Who gives a fuck, you're gonna get divorced anyways, so that sanctity goes right out the window.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
#8090041 - 03/01/08 04:21 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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marriage is ghey
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8090058 - 03/01/08 04:24 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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They cannot get married, marriage is a religious sacrament.
Not true. Atheists get married all the time. Christians may claim marriage to be their own, but marriage has been going on long before Christianity existed.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: impgl]
#8090064 - 03/01/08 04:25 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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marriage is ghey
Well aren't you so cool and hip and counter-culturish?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8090428 - 03/01/08 06:04 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol. I hate the "procreation" argument.
Barren chicks and sterile dudes aren't banned from marriage, and they're even more useless at popping out chilluns than a gay guy.
At least a gay guy can knock up one of his pathetic fag hags if he wanted a kid that badly.
If a certain church has a problem with it, they don't need to hold the damn ceremony for them. They should have no say in the legal aspect of it at all.
As for what it's called, I don't even give a shit, just give me a tax break and better credit. Name it a floomoppo for all I care.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8090580 - 03/01/08 06:44 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brain Fart said:
Tangerines, why are homosexuals not satisfied with being legally joined?
Why are you not happy unless a group of people are denied the same freedom that you enjoy based on something that will never effect you?
IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE A WHINEY HATE FILLED BIGOT!
(or a closet homo)
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
#8090602 - 03/01/08 06:50 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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only because im ghey
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
#8090718 - 03/01/08 07:21 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
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They cannot get married, marriage is a religious sacrament.
Not true. Atheists get married all the time. Christians may claim marriage to be their own, but marriage has been going on long before Christianity existed.
My thoughts exactly.
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Quote:
gluke bastid said:
Quote:
Brain Fart said:
Tangerines, why are homosexuals not satisfied with being legally joined?
Why are you not happy unless a group of people are denied the same freedom that you enjoy based on something that will never effect you?
IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE A WHINEY HATE FILLED BIGOT!
(or a closet homo)
I'm not saying marriage between two same sex people is wrong, I'm not hating on homos, I stated that, I jsut don't get why?
Why do you NEED the title of being married when you can be joined which is the same thing.
It just infuriates me, not for religious purposes, fuck religion. Not for bigotry or prejudice, JUST BECAUSE ITS FUCKING RETARDED.
Somebody gives me 500$..
So I should decide that it's not good enough and demand 1000$ because that's what everyone else is getting..
No you shut the fuck up and be happy with 500 free dollars.
People just drive me insane, whether they be gay, black, white, mexican, women, men, durka durka's whatever. People are fucking irritating and annoying, myself included.
The human race is fucked up, and so is our society, the way everyone thinks they "deserve" more.
Life isn't fair, get over it, make due with what you have, and you may actually come out ahead. Wow, hard concept to grasp.
Maybe if you wake up and make yourself a shit sandwhich, and eat it everyday at your job, your boss will see that your not a wise ass peice of shit and your a good worker and promote you.
But, lets say you "stick up for what you deserve" and organize a strike, and whine, boom your fucking fired.
Spend less time expecting things from other people, make due with what you have, and make a difference without making a fucking scene.
SOME THINGS/SITUATIONS DEMAND CHANGE, but there are other ways to accomplish them then how people go about them.
I just wanted to point out this in the gay marriage thing, it's a perfect example of them wanting "more"
I'm so fucking sick and tired of seeing this crap,
God I'm gonna start doing it. Whaaaa
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092240 - 03/02/08 01:52 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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we can't even be legally joined. We can't file joint taxes as spouses, we don't get rights as a legally joined couple.
Isn't "legally joined" and "married" the same fucking thing? I mean, technically, the government can't prevent two people for getting married due to religious reasons, a little thing called separation of church and state.
BTW, people have been getting "married" long before Christianity existed.
There are so many holes in this whole Christian marriage thing I don't want to get into it.
oh, and who are you calling "whiney"? Us or you? "OOHhhhh wwaaaa I don't like for gays to call themselves married because I think that a marriage is only between a man and woman, wwwaaaaaaa, even though gays getting married would have no effect on me whatsoever, I just don't like the idea of it, wwwaaaaaa"
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we can't even be legally joined. We can't file joint taxes as spouses, we don't get rights as a legally joined couple.
Isn't "legally joined" and "married" the same fucking thing? I mean, technically, the government can't prevent two people for getting married due to religious reasons, a little thing called separation of church and state.
BTW, people have been getting "married" long before Christianity existed.
There are so many holes in this whole Christian marriage thing I don't want to get into it.
oh, and who are you calling "whiney"? Us or you? "OOHhhhh wwaaaa I don't like for gays to call themselves married because I think that a marriage is only between a man and woman, wwwaaaaaaa, even though gays getting married would have no effect on me whatsoever, I just don't like the idea of it, wwwaaaaaa"
Are you retarded? Or can you not read?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092263 - 03/02/08 01:57 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brain Fart said:
I'm not saying marriage between two same sex people is wrong, I'm not hating on homos, I stated that, I just don't get why?
Why do you NEED the title of being married when you can be joined which is the same thing.
It just infuriates me, not for religious purposes, fuck religion. Not for bigotry or prejudice, JUST BECAUSE ITS
Read. try it, it's fun.
I don't care if you get married, I don't care if you marry a fucking pidgeon. I want to know though, WHY!?
Why must you be called married? Why?
Do it, I don't care. I just want to know Why?
Why? Read it, Why?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092267 - 03/02/08 01:58 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, I would have asked you the same thing, but I'm not as polite.
I just automatically assumed you were retarded.
WE CAN'T BE "LEGALLY JOINED". WE DON'T CARE IF IT'S CALLED A MARRIAGE OR NOT. WE STILL CANNOT BE LEGALLY JOINED AT ALL.
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No answer?
Why?
Edit: Sure seems to have a lot to do with "marriage" from what I've had thrown in my face via the television and newspapers. Getting ready to go live in a cave.
Edit: Oh and anotehr thing, you all want to be married in a church now too, seen that recently too...
WHY?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092282 - 03/02/08 02:02 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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dude this it the THIRD time I have to say this
THERE IS NO WAY FOR TWO PEOPLE OF THE SAME SEX TO BE LEGALLY JOINED.
I don't know where you got the half-baked idea that we can. We don't care if it's called marriage or not, we just want to be recognized as a couple and have the same rights as straight legally joined people (AKA married people).
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dude this it the THIRD time I have to say this
THERE IS NO WAY FOR TWO PEOPLE OF THE SAME SEX TO BE LEGALLY JOINED.
I don't know where you got the half-baked idea that we can. We don't care if it's called marriage or not, we just want to be recognized as a couple and have the same rights as straight legally joined people (AKA married people).
hahhaa i can just imagine that being said in a flamo voice.
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Hahaha, now that is homo hating...I am not homo hating...
I just want to know, why?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092328 - 03/02/08 02:12 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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They use the word marriage because TWO PEOPLE JOINED LEGALLY BY THE GOVERNMENT IS A MARRIAGE.
Show me documented cases where the *edit* US government offered gay couples a "legal union" but they declined it because it wasn't a "marriage".
Until then, everything you say is null and void because you are talking out of your ass. Gays were never offered a legal union of any sort.
As for getting married in a church, where did you get the idea everyone wants to get married in a church? That's an antiquated tradition.... even most straight couples don't get marr-erm, I mean, legally joined in churches anymore.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092330 - 03/02/08 02:13 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont know where this topic is at, but the Fausto-Sterling (a last name) and the Innersex Society of North America present an interesting challenge to marriage in general. They have biologically classified genders other than standard Male/Female. Found with a surprising frequency in the general population which would pose a whole new challenge to marriage in which would require the political correct message of genetic testing, or a simpler method of depants in front of a judge for a license. Proving only the further absurdity of the majority of those on the other side of the argument.
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Show me documented cases where the government offered gay couples a "legal union" but they declined it because it wasn't a "marriage".
I'm not the one being questioned, I'm not the one demanding titles, YOU PROVE YOURSELF, NOT ME.
And if you don't like it, get married somewhere else?
Or even go live somewhere else?
I mean really, I understand you have strong emotional connections to men, the way I do to women. UNDERSTANDABLE.
For you to want to be with that person, and make it only that person, and seal it officially, understandable.
BUT WHY MUST IT BE MARRIAGE?
I have seen all over the news how gays not only want "marriage" they want it in a church..
Now I am not a religious zealot, or anything, I don't even believe in christianity, I simply want to know,
Why
is nothing ever good enough for people?
Maybe your not one of those people, but please, tell me since you associate with them more then I do..Why?
At least ask them for me...
Why?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: C20H25N3O]
#8092355 - 03/02/08 02:22 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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C20H25N3O said:
I dont know where this topic is at, but the Fausto-Sterling (a last name) and the Innersex Society of North America present an interesting challenge to marriage in general. They have biologically classified genders other than standard Male/Female. Found with a surprising frequency in the general population which would pose a whole new challenge to marriage in which would require the political correct message of genetic testing, or a simpler method of depants in front of a judge for a license. Proving only the further absurdity of the majority of those on the other side of the argument.
exactly, in fact there is a condition where at conception a woman is pregnant with twins, then one twin dies and the surviving fetus absorbs it. http://www.babyzone.com/features/content/display.asp?TopicID=40&ContentID=1525&Page=1
In some cases, the twin could have been of the opposite sex, there fore the surviving baby isn't 100% male or female, it could have cells that belonged to it's twin...
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StonedShroom, I'm going to go waste the rest of my night playing World of Warcraft, and I expect you to interview these people and get me an answer by the time I return to look.
I say good day to you.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092382 - 03/02/08 02:31 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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first of all, I have no attractions to men, I'm a lesbian.
from here, it's obvious you are indeed an idiot because it's a well known fact I'm a lesbian on these boards, but I'll continue.
I have stated NUMEROUS times that we don't care if it's called a marriage or not, we just want the same rights as a joined couple.
Why am I having to prove that gays declined being legally joined? YOU'RE the one that first came up with that cocked-up theory.
It's not like there's an option out there for us to get "legally joined" but we ignore it b/c it's not "marriage".
You have got to be the most uninformed person I've ever had this conversation with.
You're like those people who read about a friend of a friend's cousin's uncle's step-sister's brother dying from a marijuana OD on a government anti-drug website, so you argue that weed kills people.
How about you go educate yourself then come back to have a conversation over this topic.
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Ah, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding about your gender, it reveals much of why your acting the way you are.
MUTHER FUCKING FEMINIST LESBIAN!!!
No, now I'm messing with you.
But if you wanna get hyped up on your sexuality and call me an idiot because I do not understand your NEED for titles, then I guess to you and anyone else wh ocares to believe so, I am an idiot.
Good job, you have successfully put down a straight person for asking you a question that threw you into the defensive.
I'm sure you feel better knowing that you straight bashed me. You're not calling me an idiot because you think I'm unintelligent, you're calling me one because I am questioning your thought process and your lifestyle.
Why should I know your a lesbian? Am I supposed to make it my business who is and is not homosexual on this message board? If I did that then I would be a hateful biggot, but the fact that I don't care proves otherwise.
Anyway, stop being defensive because I'm asking you questions, as unintellgient or uninformed as they may be, they are like that because they are questions and I HAVE NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THEM OTHER THEN WHAT I HEAR.
Tell me to go get educated? Well educate me?
Really though, no sense arguing with you, I can tell you'll just call me names to try and stray me from your senslessness. Your not a gay person, your jsut a person. That's how you want to be treated? Then why are you treating me differently because I'm asking you questions pertaining to your lifestyle? Because your a hypocrit
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092446 - 03/02/08 02:58 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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my philosophy TA was a trans gender person.
she is happy with the way she is now? i guess. yah.
if i was trans gender i would be a lesbian.
think about that.
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wut the fuck, dont tell me i just ended this whole thread.
i am a convo stopper?!
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if i was transgender id be a whore
(insert dildoe smiley)
think about that
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: aiyobro]
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8092819 - 03/02/08 09:09 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've answered your question at least once, but you've conveniently ignored it.
Gays should be able to be married because the promise of equal rights to all citizens. This means that no matter how silly you think it is, gays have the right to a marriage as long as the state is involved in it.
Also, your argument sounds a whole lot like the "separate but equal" facilities for blacks back in the day. Do you see the comparison, because it's clear as day. Blacks didn't need the right to share bathrooms because theirs we just as good. Gays don't need to shares the institution of marriage because civil unions are just as good.
You also do not take into account that civil unions, marriages, and domestic partnerships are currently illegal in a majority of states. This means they have no option for tax breaks or other benefits granted to married couples. How is this constitutional?
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
#8092971 - 03/02/08 10:41 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't even get why there is a debate.
The only argument against gays getting married is a lame fundamentalist Christian one. Probably something boring about 'protecting the sanctity of Holy union' or some such bollocks. If you don't believe that being buggered by the same sex will send you to the fiery depths of hell for all eternity, you shouldn't have a problem with it.
Trouble is, a lot of people do believe that. Which is why we should put 24 hour gay porn on all channels for a month, just to really piss off the Christians and hopefully make them all fuck off to a cold uninhabited country somewhere far away, where they can read the bible and keep their outdated notions to themselves.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Brain Fart]
#8093242 - 03/02/08 12:39 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your comments seem to be based on a misunderstanding of current U.S. laws. It is NOT possible for a same-sex couple to be legally wed and recognized by both state and federal governments as a familial and financial unit.
It is not the responsibility of the government to force churches to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies, and the doctrine of separation of church and state prohibits the government from doing so, anyway.
The issue is LEGAL, not religious. The church has no right to force the general population to live according to their religious tenets. If this issue could be dealt with on a purely constitutional, legal basis, there would be NO question as to the resolution of the dispute. ALL couples should be treated equally under U.S. law, and the current laws are discriminatory and unconstitutional.
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So your telling us Brain Fart, that if everyone else was getting 1000 bucks and you only got 500 bucks you would be happy with that? Bullshit.
Putting limitations on gays, are just as oppressive as putting limitations on black people for 400 years. there is no reason to be doing it, other than the lack of understanding other peoples differences. The argument you are defending against is probably the same argument that whites used against blacks back in the day.
All it is, is prejudice.
Im not gay myself, but i don't feel it is wrong or bad. It's just different from what i am. This is as horrible and stupid as racism. Racists are just ignorant.
The human race isn't "fucked up." Just your version of it.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Kada]
#8096775 - 03/03/08 11:41 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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So your telling us Brain Fart, that if everyone else was getting 1000 bucks and you only got 500 bucks you would be happy with that? Bullshit.
Putting limitations on gays, are just as oppressive as putting limitations on black people for 400 years. there is no reason to be doing it, other than the lack of understanding other peoples differences. The argument you are defending against is probably the same argument that whites used against blacks back in the day.
All it is, is prejudice.
Im not gay myself, but i don't feel it is wrong or bad. It's just different from what i am. This is as horrible and stupid as racism. Racists are just ignorant.
The human race isn't "fucked up." Just your version of it.
Would I think it was fair that everyone else was getting twice what I was? No?
Would I complain? No because it's still a free 500 dollars, it was an analogy to put into clearer perspective how greedy we are.
Greed is evil.
I suppose I understand the situation a bit clearer now, alot of posts did not answer the question I was looking for, but a few did.
Of course the black facilities where not equal, however, they were much lower standard and much less well kept, then the white facility. So it was hardly equal..
Regardless, I suppose I see your point. Maybe I am misinformed, although my mother teaches U.S. Law and gripes about it with her students all day..
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Kada]
#14364634 - 04/28/11 02:05 AM (2 years, 26 days ago) |
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Homosexual marriage is a abomination
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Quote:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Homosexual marriage is a abomination
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Bumping threads older than 1,000 days just to do a +1 is the abomination.
Its not like the Affirmative Action Committee ruled that your second marriage has to be gay to diversify.
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