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 Re: Homosexual Marriage  [Re: Redstorm]
#8080409 - 02/28/08 08:09 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I personally have no problem with polygamy.
ODD SIDE NOTE: The people who practice
polygamy are probably the ones most appalled by gay marriage.
But yeah, if you want three wives...with three times the bitching and moaning...and barricading yourself in the garage when *that* time of the month comes around and they've all 'synchronized'?
Knock yourself out!
Now polygamous GAY marriage!
Now we're getting into an interesting conversation!
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 badchad
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
#8080410 - 02/28/08 08:10 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Call it what you want (slippery slope or otherwise). As soon as you extend benefits to one group of people (via civil union), it is likely others will try to gain the same benefits. This is especially true when inclusion is based upon subjective opinion (e.g. "tradition")
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8080431 - 02/28/08 08:20 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Funny how when people speak of gay marriage everyone thinks of two guys and out come the anal sex and dick sucking jokes before anyone would ever mention two girls. The only reason gay marriage is an issue is because of number 1, the biggest reason of all religion and then homophobia. What people do with their life is their own choice, you don't control the car they drive why control who they chose to live their life with. Writing a paper on gay marriage is like writing a paper on religion.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
#8081046 - 02/28/08 01:06 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Allowing homosexual marriage is of a complete different caliber than allowing polygamous marriage. 2=2=2 no matter what sexes are involved. 2 does not = 3 in any case.
Think of it like absolute values. abs(-2)=abs(2).... despite the 'sign'
The important difference is not so much the sexes involved, but rather the number of persons.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: aiyobro]
#8081261 - 02/28/08 02:09 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have plenty of gay friends, and by and large they're more friendly/fun to be around than some of my straight friends 
I think that homosexuality is a completely natural part of life, and that believing it is a choice is simply ignorant. History has shown, across many species, that homosexuality is nothing new, and that it's just part of who people are.
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polygamous marriage is banned because the state has an interest in banning it. The Supreme Court ruled that this interest is determined by the general poverty level of polygamous marriages and the likelihood of abuse of the women and children in the group. This makes polygamy illegal. This is a completely baseless argument that will have to be overturned, because not all people who want multiple marriages are impoverished or assholes that beat their kids.
Gay marriage is a legal and civil issue, not a moral issue. The separation between church and state guarantees that a marriage certificate issued by the government has no bearing whatsoever on religion. The sanctity of marriage argument should have nothing to do with whether or not homosexuals should be allowed to legally marry. They should focus their efforts in banning gay marriage within their congregations, a practice I have absolutely no objection to.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
#8081298 - 02/28/08 02:26 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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If I have to hear one more comparison of gay marriage to people getting married to dogs! 
And why is it always dogs?
Why not a cat, llama, walrus, house fly or sea cucumber?
Not true, Ellen had a whole spiel about getting married to a goat.
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When I was in high school I wrote a pro-gay essay. This guy in my class wrote an anti-gay essay, and was a real dick to me.
Imagine my surprise when 6 years after graduating I pull up his myspace page to see him wearing nothing but a jock strap, fishnet panty hose, and sparkly body gel. Fucking fag.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Roadkill]
#8081614 - 02/28/08 03:57 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not true, Ellen had a whole spiel about getting married to a goat.
I missed that one.
I'm just sick of people equating gay sex with beastiality.
Maybe imagining two guys having greasy manlove is a bit disgusting to the average person...but imaging half the people I know having sex would be disgusting.
Doesn't mean I want to outlaw it.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
#8081861 - 02/28/08 05:06 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's on her stand up special "the beginning"... she's says something about the first place people go when talking about gay marriage is marriage to animals and she's like "Who thinks this? And they say WE'RE the scary ones!"
her stand up is funny. She can babble on for a bit, but for the most part it cracks me up.
My fave stand ups are still Robin Williams and George Carlin. Ellen's still a bit too clean, especially now that she hosts a daytime show and her audience is mostly soccer moms.
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Yeah, she's kinda funny when she rambles though...not in a HAHA way but just amusing.
My favs are: Lewis Black first and foremost and ...hmmm... dunno Eddie Izzard is kinda entertaining...not really 'funny' but again intellectually amusing.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Redstorm]
#8082499 - 02/28/08 07:35 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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And shut the fuck up already about the "sanctity" of marriage. Please. The sanctity of marriage was out the fucking window the second a drive-thru chapel was erected in Vegas. The divorce rate is 50%. There is no sanctity anymore. All we want is a tax cut and better credit.
Agreed, but some gays, and probably most gays dont just want tax cut and better credit, they want their ceremony (or sometimes elope) and they want to be able to call a person their spouse and say they are married.
The percentage of people with paraphilias, such as liking animals sexually is very very very small compared to the amount of people who are homosexual, which until the '70's was also considered a paraphilia in psychology until civil rights hit and changed that, and frankly homosexuality is simply too common and exists in lots of animals so cannot be classified anywhere near as weird as a person who fucks horses (or wants to) or has a sexual fascination with poop.
as far as marrying multiple people, well that is a matter of debate, polygany and polyandry has been practiced for various reasons, mostly cultural or religious since ancient times, and still goes on today. So did slavery, and still does, and I think slavery is an abomination, and I do not recognize multiple marriages as legitimate in my opinion. It completely defeats the purpose of marriage and makes your multiple wives or multiple husbands as objects.
BTW I did not spell polygamy wrong, polygamy encompasses polygany and polyandry.
Marriage to and between minors is well, some states like georgia allow a 16 year old to get married if shes pregnant, etc, but frankly I dont see anyone arguing that 14 year olds should be allowed to marry each other or anyone else.
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what about polygamous marriage to animals? Multiple species even?
What about animals getting married to each other? I got one of the dogs we used to own from a litter of puppies where the mama dog still lived with the daddy dog, why werent they married?
the girl dogs in the litter where both bitches and bastards.
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yeah, she's funny and somewhat interesting. not a beauty queen, but not bad lookin. i'd feel quite honored to fuck janine garofalo. -tiny_rabid_birds
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My favs are: Lewis Black first and foremost and ...hmmm... dunno Eddie Izzard is kinda entertaining...not really 'funny' but again intellectually amusing.
Izzard is quite intellectual in a lot of the things he talks about, and in others not. Probably more so than a lot of comics in the intellect.
But you can't really be funny for the most part without being smart in stand up. And you cannot be witty without being smart period.
we all have met that stupid guy who thinks hes witty, except that he is too stupid to understand what witty means and calls himself "funny" but then again looks are not everything.
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yeah, she's funny and somewhat interesting. not a beauty queen, but not bad lookin. i'd feel quite honored to fuck janine garofalo. -tiny_rabid_birds
If you're actaully racist in real life though, you're literally a homosexual faggot.-StevenMichael
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
#8083681 - 02/28/08 11:28 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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blackegg said:
My favs are: Lewis Black first and foremost and ...hmmm... dunno Eddie Izzard is kinda entertaining...not really 'funny' but again intellectually amusing.
Eddie Izzard is not homosexual, he's a heterosexual transvestite.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Veritas]
#8085456 - 02/29/08 11:56 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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A) Cannibuscharlie said, "Agreed, but some gays,
and probably most gays dont just want tax cut and better credit, they want their ceremony (or sometimes elope)
and they want to be able to call a person their spouse and say they are married."
...and?
B) Cannibuscharlie said, "So did slavery, and still does, and I think slavery is an abomination..."
I'm not sure which one but this sounds like a logical fallicy.
I.E.
A has been happening for a long time.
B has been happening for a long time.
I don't like A therefore B is bad too.
or were you correcting someone else who said
it's okay because it's been done for a long time? hmmm...
C) Cannibuscharlie said, "What about animals getting married to each other?
I got one of the dogs we used to own from a litter of puppies where the mama dog still lived with
the daddy dog, why werent they married?"
haha..because they're living in sin, so what? people do it too! 
Want to get your dogs hitched?
Go for it...marriage is a joke anyway.
It's for symbol addicts who don't realize that if you can't or don't want to stay with someone through the trials
of a lonnnng term relationship a piece of paper and a priest's blessing won't really help you.
BTW I'm married!
D) Veritus said, "Eddie Izzard is not homosexual, he's a heterosexual transvestite. "
Thanks for the clarification, professor.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
#8085801 - 02/29/08 01:26 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're welcome.  I'm an Izzard fan, and he makes it quite clear in his stand up routine that he likes girls. He also likes makeup, heels & women's clothing.
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Veritas]
#8086028 - 02/29/08 02:40 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Leave it to the British to think wearing a dress and high heels is bizarre and noteworthy behaviour.
 
I like him too, though!
I saw him on The Jon Stewart Show seven sheets to the wind... nearly falling out of his chair and he was still pulling witty connections out his ass!
Also saw him on the Henry Rollins show! Which was okay...I'm not a big rollins fan but eh...
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: blackegg]
#8086047 - 02/29/08 02:46 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for turning my homework thread into a full out debate. 
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Re: Homosexual Marriage [Re: Tangerines]
#8086051 - 02/29/08 02:49 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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hahaha.
It's off the tracks now.
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