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 dumbfounded1600
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 Starving children in Africa... 
#8075622 - 02/27/08 02:47 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Who gives a fuck? What are we benefiting from?
Your thoughts?
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My thoughts are you're an idiot. You're clearly trying to be a racist on purpose, and it's rather fucking annoying. You can be a racist that's cool, frankly I think it's a natural thing, but come on, your threads are getting annoying.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: jewunit]
#8075651 - 02/27/08 02:54 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not trying...but ok. I just don't see a benefit in it...late
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My thoughts: We flood Africa with a myriad of dollar bills to alleviate a problem that will, inevitably, forever exist. Africa does not need any help from us. The United States is not some global hero and it definitely does not need to save the world from "terrorists" or "weapons of mass destruction".
And, personally, I don't really care about starving children in Africa. There are starving children 3 blocks down the street from me. Let's worry about them instead.
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Go jerk off to your Nazi snuff.
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The benefit is obviously personal. You help people out, you feel good about yourself, what's so fucking hard to understand. No one is forcing you to feed starving black children.
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He may in fact, be a literal bum, only able to make himself known to us here by occasionally stopping into dark internet cafes to make a few quick, frantic posts before the owners force him to leave because of the stench of rotting vegetables and desperation wafting forth from his pores.
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There's not a lot that you can do as an individual other than recognize there are many humans on earth that are starving and unhappy because of how "developed" countries portray ideal living.
Though I have to agree, why the fuck should you care?
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: psilog]
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i have pretty much zero attachment to other countries. as long as they don't threaten my well-being, who gives a fuck. i am so far displaced from the starving children that i also could care less. if they were next door to me in an empty dirt lot, my feelings would be drastically different. but because i have no personal connection to them, i don't care.
i mean, what if we knew there were starving alien-humanoid species on mars. would you have any sort of empathetic feelings towards them?
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: psilog]
#8075675 - 02/27/08 03:02 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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because they're suffering needlessly and struggling to survive while the white meat of america kicks back - that's why i care 
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: psilog]
#8075680 - 02/27/08 03:05 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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they need to quit having so many damn kids, and then there wont be so many starving..
you wonder why there are starving children? is because there are too damn many kids.
you'd be starving too if everyone around you had at least 5 brothers and sisters and not enough natural resources to support all of you..
not to mention that you are kids and cant really work for what you eat and the parents dont give a shit.. they just make more kids..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_birth_rate
that's a quick source i found..
seriously..
look at their population pyramid and you'll see what i'm talking about.
it's not the kids fault, it's the dumbass parents..
feel free to criticize me.. i'm just being real about these problems and it's late so i'm crass about it. (crass, i never say crass)
i gives a fuck good night.
we have become their natural resource.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: Syle]
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Syle said:i mean, what if we knew there were starving alien-humanoid species on mars. would you have any sort of empathetic feelings towards them?
If we could exploit them.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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because they're suffering needlessly and struggling to survive while the white meat of america kicks back - that's why i care
i love how american success always reverts to guilt. fuck that. i feel fortunate to be where i am, and i am not going to take it for granted and selflessly piss away my money on other people that i feel no connection to. sorry if that is inhumane, i view it as logical appropriate. if i had money that i deemed i could give away, i would gladly do so.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: Syle]
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because they're suffering needlessly and struggling to survive while the white meat of america kicks back - that's why i care
i love how american success always reverts to guilt. fuck that. i feel fortunate to be where i am, and i am not going to take it for granted and selflessly piss away my money on other people that i feel no connection to. sorry if that is inhumane, i view it as logical appropriate. if i had money that i deemed i could give away, i would gladly do so.
it's all about perspective man - put yourself in their shoes. we've been dealt some pretty good cards and they've got a fixed deck, i don't feel guilty about having a better situation than them, i think it's just pretty cold not to even empathize with how INCREDIBLY fucked up this world is
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: b0b gnarley]
#8075701 - 02/27/08 03:13 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Who's the chick in your avatar? She look pretty hawt.
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It's common knowledge that Jewunit is an umemployed drain on society, supposedly attending some university that nobodies ever heard of.
He may in fact, be a literal bum, only able to make himself known to us here by occasionally stopping into dark internet cafes to make a few quick, frantic posts before the owners force him to leave because of the stench of rotting vegetables and desperation wafting forth from his pores.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: drkrobotnik]
#8075705 - 02/27/08 03:15 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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they need to quit having so many damn kids, and then there wont be so many starving..
you wonder why there are starving children? is because there are too damn many kids.
I think that in "developing" countries where your assets are limited, having many children happens for a couple of reasons. a) because of a lack of contraceptives and b) because kids ARE your assets, you want as many of them as possible so that the odds of one of them being successful/productive/whatever increases with numbers
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: jewunit]
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She's only hot in the .gif trust me, vid isn't worth it.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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because they're suffering needlessly and struggling to survive while the white meat of america kicks back - that's why i care
i love how american success always reverts to guilt. fuck that. i feel fortunate to be where i am, and i am not going to take it for granted and selflessly piss away my money on other people that i feel no connection to. sorry if that is inhumane, i view it as logical appropriate. if i had money that i deemed i could give away, i would gladly do so.
it's all about perspective man - put yourself in their shoes. we've been dealt some pretty good cards and they've got a fixed deck, i don't feel guilty about having a better situation than them, i think it's just pretty cold not to even empathize with how INCREDIBLY fucked up this world is
i understand how fucked up the world is. i still find it difficult to empathize with anyone i don't know or haven't had a connection with. sorry, it's just the way it is for me.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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because they're suffering needlessly and struggling to survive while the white meat of america kicks back - that's why i care
That's basically what I said..
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: psilog]
#8076112 - 02/27/08 08:25 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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If we continue to feed them, they'll continue to fuck. There's definitely a feel-good aspect to it, no doubt, but throwing food at the problem is the problem.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: JPMorgan]
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yea bob i seen that vid is that the one with two chicks the other girl is hot
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How about the starving children in the USA.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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blkjkrabbit said:I think that in "developing" countries where your assets are limited, having many children happens for a couple of reasons. a) because of a lack of contraceptives and b) because kids ARE your assets, you want as many of them as possible so that the odds of one of them being successful/productive/whatever increases with numbers
You've hit the nail on the head my friend. I took an econ class about 3rd world countries and why they are how they are, and this is one of the main points:
Birth rates. They are high for a multitude of reasons. Aside from the fact that there are no contraceptives - like blkjkrabit said - children are assets. In a world where there is no stable government, no social security, and no "savings accounts" - the only "retirement fund" that exists is the off chance that one of the children you plop out will be well-off enough to take care of you in your old age. To increase the liklihood that you will be taken care of, parents often have many children. Not only that - but children can work (in places where there are jobs), and if anything - female children can be traded or sold/married to accumulate some wealth.
Step 1 for getting 3rd world countries above the poverty line is Women's education & rights. With women properly educated - the increase in job opportunities outside of agricultural work will lower women's "obligation" to have children. Currently - all they are good for is working the fields/home and having babies. Once they gain the social standing to contribute to the economy - far less children would be born. Slowly (nothing happens quick when dealing with birth rates), after much time - the birth rates would lowere and the mass of poor and starving would be much more manageable.
If you really want to help out 3rd world countries, look up microfinancing online and find a website (i forgot the names of the ones i knew) in which you can lend money to 3rd world entrepreneurs to improve their businesses.
-Example:
You loan a woman $750 to buy a giant mixing machine, so she can increase production of peanutbutter - allowing her to sell more (generate more revenue) - which allows her to employ more people (spreading the wealth) - and the increased proudction lowers costs, allowing her to distribute FOOD for cheaper. I think that was a real example (vaguely remember it) - but if not, you get the point.
The loans aren't guarenteed to be paid back - but they have a low default rate.
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Here is that microlending site, there are a lot of examples on there. My professor at the time showed us his account, he had lent out $3000+ to various businesspeople in africa, and gained much PERSONAL SATISFACTION (all you can hope to gain from a situation such as this) from it.
http://kiva.org/app.php?gclid=CNO3if_W5JECFQEjFQodHTU2fQ
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: meams]
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I say if we help them out fine, it's a humane thing to do. But i say we give them 1 condom for every spoonful of food. They need to be taught how stupid they are in reproducing the way they are.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: Kada]
#8076352 - 02/27/08 10:47 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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the death rate in africas countries almost makes up for the
birth rate, it puts them on par with most everywhere in the world
http://www.indexmundi.com/map.aspx?v=Death+rate(deaths%2F1%2C000+population)&co=af
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: Prisoner#1]
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the death rate in africas countries almost makes up for the
birth rate, it puts them on par with most everywhere in the world
http://www.indexmundi.com/map.aspx?v=Death+rate(deaths%2F1%2C000+population)&co=af
Unfortunately, high birth and death rates are still MUCH worse than low birth and death rates.
Their ratio may be on par, but that's just a number
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: meams]
#8076445 - 02/27/08 11:25 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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the rate of overpopulation remains about the same through
out the world, when theres wars there are more children
being born, doesnt matter what country you talk about,
everyone is overbreeding
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8076578 - 02/27/08 12:08 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck em. Only thing in Africa is dirty water, hunters that shoot animals and blood diamonds. If we wanted which we could is to just go shoot all the humans and keep the land to animals. Bring water and have USA take it over. That's what I think should happen. Our military would have no problem taking them all out.
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: debianlinux]
#8076666 - 02/27/08 12:39 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread. 
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wow
im speechless
its a good thing your opinions mean shit
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: bradmassive]
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread.
agreeing with a smart post doesn't make you intelligent. post your own ideas.
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread.
agreeing with a smart post doesn't make you intelligent. post your own ideas.
You're an idiot. You fail.
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread.
agreeing with a smart post doesn't make you intelligent. post your own ideas.
I was gonna post my ideas til I saw that this dude had said it all before me. 
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread.
agreeing with a smart post doesn't make you intelligent. post your own ideas.
You're an idiot. You fail.
? How do i fail?
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread.
agreeing with a smart post doesn't make you intelligent. post your own ideas.
You're an idiot. You fail.
? How do i fail?
because you're an idiot?
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread.
agreeing with a smart post doesn't make you intelligent. post your own ideas.
You're an idiot. You fail.
? How do i fail?
because you're an idiot?
apparently...
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It was a lame attempt to call someone out. He never said he was intelligent, nor was there any reason for him to re-post everything debian said, so he simply agreed.
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the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
One of the only intelligent posts in this thread.
agreeing with a smart post doesn't make you intelligent. post your own ideas.
You're an idiot. You fail.
? How do i fail?
because you're an idiot?
apparently...
no argument here 
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DieCommie
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: debianlinux]
#8076714 - 02/27/08 12:51 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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debianlinux said:
the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
I also agree. The best thing we can do to 'teach them to fish' so to speak, is end farm subsidies.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: JPMorgan]
#8076727 - 02/27/08 12:53 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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JPMorgan said:
It was a lame attempt to call someone out. He never said he was intelligent, nor was there any reason for him to re-post everything debian said, so he simply agreed.
while at the same time bashing everyone in the thread. seemed like a pretty pussy and a cop-out way to just agree with someone else's post.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: DieCommie]
#8076743 - 02/27/08 12:57 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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debianlinux said:
the whole "feed africa" paradigm flies in the face of the sage indian parable involving feeding a man a fish versus teaching the same man to fish.
the longer we give the people what they need the longer the remain incapable of providing for themselves.
necessity is the mother of innovation.
i'm not against foreign aid but I am against our current approach.
I also agree. The best thing we can do to 'teach them to fish' so to speak, is end farm subsidies.
Permaculture is the best road to go down. Teach them how to turn their desert land into decent, sustainable farmland through proper irrigation methods etc.
It ain't the job of our federal government to provide any of this BTW.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: Syle]
#8076745 - 02/27/08 12:58 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Syle said:
seemed like a pretty pussy and a cop-out way to just agree with someone else's post.
Bradmassive, according to Syle, your post seemed like "a pretty pussy." 
And to respond to you, Syle, people can agree with each other, as foreign as it sounds.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: Syle]
#8076766 - 02/27/08 01:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lets ignore the racists and shit stirrers. If you are concerned with the plight of starving Africans, think not what your government can do for them with the money they steal with tax's.
Think of how you can help them to look after themselves in a sustainable way. Also think about about how you can help get our government get out of their way in the process.
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Edited by bradmassive (02/27/08 01:19 PM)
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meams
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: bradmassive]
#8076789 - 02/27/08 01:10 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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i feel like there's a lot of hurt vaginas in here and nobodys talking about starving african people anymore.
Let's all go watch the "starvin marvin" episode of south park. Marklar marklar just wants to marklar your marklar.
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Re: Starving children in Africa... [Re: bradmassive]
#8077182 - 02/27/08 03:13 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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bradmassive said:
Lets ignore the racists and shit stirrers. If you are concerned with the plight of starving Africans, think not what your government can do for them with the money they steal with tax's.
Think of how you can help them to look after themselves in a sustainable way. Also think about about how you can help get our government get out of their way in the process.
from what i understand it's their irresponsible government, or lack of a responsible one, that is the biggest problem. it's just a huge corrupt cesspool. why would i want to send my money there, if i felt the need to in the first place, if it was just gonna get into the hands of the wrong people anyways.
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