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 Spawning from rye to compost. 
#7926538 - 01/24/08 10:43 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Hi, I know most of the people here appreciate DIY methods and extensive research when it comes to growing your shrooms, and I've read up on as much as I can at the moment about mushrooms, the colonization process, the fruiting and it's parameters, unfortunately I don't count with enough time to go through with most of the advanced stuff you guys are so familiar with. So I'd like to know what would be the best and possibly simplest way to fruit my shrooms off my 3 lbs. grain grow bag, thanks for any input in advance."
Nevermind this!
I want to spawn to a bulk substrate now.
Edited by veinsonfire (01/25/08 01:57 PM)
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 Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7926610 - 01/24/08 10:52 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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The simplest way would be to fruit inside the bag. The best way would be to spawn the bags to a bulk substrate like horse poo or straw. I'm guessing by your post that this is your first grow, so I would just fruit them invitro until you do some research on spawning to bulk substrates.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: FooMan]
#7926693 - 01/24/08 11:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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^^^what he said.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: FooMan]
#7926716 - 01/24/08 11:07 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
FooManShroom said:
The simplest way would be to fruit inside the bag. The best way would be to spawn the bags to a bulk substrate like horse poo or straw. I'm guessing by your post that this is your first grow, so I would just fruit them invitro until you do some research on spawning to bulk substrates.
Yeah, I want to fruit inside the bag, but how do I do that? Do I need to add or do anything special? Or do I just open up the bag, expose it to fluorescent light, and fan it/expose it to oxygen?
Is that what you mean by 'invitro'?
Thanks.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7926971 - 01/24/08 11:46 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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No one?
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7927271 - 01/25/08 12:35 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7927580 - 01/25/08 01:32 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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The bags have a filter patch, right? You pretty much just set them in your closet and wait about a month.
Invitro means "in the bag" as opposed to taking the substrate out of the bag and fruiting it that way.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7927621 - 01/25/08 01:39 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since Mushbox lost their sponsorship on this forum, you might have better luck at Mushbox's own Shroomtalk forum. Good luck!
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: Workman]
#7927841 - 01/25/08 02:31 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
FooManShroom said:
The bags have a filter patch, right? You pretty much just set them in your closet and wait about a month.
Invitro means "in the bag" as opposed to taking the substrate out of the bag and fruiting it that way.
Really? Seems too simple to me but I'll try it out!
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Workman said:
Since Mushbox lost their sponsorship on this forum, you might have better luck at Mushbox's own Shroomtalk forum. Good luck!
Well I don't see how forum politics should prevent someone from giving good advice, I mean it's the same thing we're all growing, I just specified the brand in case someone was familiar with it. And I accidentally selected 1995 in the birth date field to register in those forums and it won't let me register properly again, I probably won't buy from there again anyways.
Although I've found better much better products, I still bought this bag so I don't want my money to go to waste.
Thanks for the advice. 
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7927929 - 01/25/08 02:55 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mushbox isn't the most popular vendor around here. Good luck with your grow
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: FooMan]
#7928935 - 01/25/08 10:53 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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All you do to fruit in the bag is cover the sides of the block with black tape so only the top gets light, give it 12 hrs a day roughly and wait til the bag is full of shrooms. Don't open it or do anything cept black it out
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 Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: rizingfire]
#7928950 - 01/25/08 11:01 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks!!!
I am infinitely grateful, good karma to you sir. 
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: rizingfire]
#7929137 - 01/25/08 12:07 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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In my experience, grain bags (rye, bird seed, etc.) rarely spontaneously fruit invitro and when they do the yields are terrible. But yeah, good luck with that.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: Workman]
#7929159 - 01/25/08 12:16 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright, what if I place the colonized substrate on a tupperware container with moist perlite on the bottom? Would that be enough?
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7929243 - 01/25/08 12:44 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, no?
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7929285 - 01/25/08 01:01 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Probably not. Grains are best used as spawn to bulk substrates or cased. Try putting some moist vermiculite on top of the fully colonized grains and cross your fingers. There are other types of bags that do fruit invitro but if you just have grains in a bag its not going to work well.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: Workman]
#7929449 - 01/25/08 02:06 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ohhhhhhh, now I understand some terms a little bit better!
I think I am going to spawn to some compost from one of the sponsors!
I changed the title of this thread because I had more questions but I decided to search some more instead and I think I'm ready for this.
Thanks a bunch, you've been more helpful than I expected. 
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7929492 - 01/25/08 02:16 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crap, now I need to know how to make a growing chamber.
You never stop learning, heh.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7929566 - 01/25/08 02:29 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay I swear this is my last question.
Let's say I buy compost, break up my colonized rye spawn into it, then what is a simple way to store it for fruiting? Anything I can make with household materials like baking trays, tupperware, etc..?
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7929622 - 01/25/08 02:38 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would agree with Workman on the Mushbox bags. If the bags are ONLY rye, wbs or some other grain, they won't fruit well invitro. If the bags are a mix designed for fruiting invitro, they should do well.
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These are NOT Mushbox bags.
You DON'T need to tape around the sides of the bag. All that does is limit the fruiting area to the top instead of all the way around the bag. You can take the substrate completely out of the bag to harvest, so mushrooms growing on the bottom and sides doesn't hurt anything.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: FooMan]
#7929637 - 01/25/08 02:41 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Umm, yeah, I just found all of that out, I just need the question above your post answered and I'm good to go.
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Re: Fruiting inside Mushbox grain grow bag. [Re: veinsonfire]
#7929648 - 01/25/08 02:44 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Search "monotubs".
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