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Theres plenty of mycelium left in the mulch and i made sure not to pull it all up..dont worry the myc i did pull up is being put to good use, Psilocybe caerulipes..like disturbed ground.Peace
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 Re: New Strain of Psilocybe?  [Re: HerbBaker]
#7610101 - 11/08/07 09:46 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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A couple of them definitely look like caerulipes to me. From my experience (which isn't that much), caerulipes are pretty rare, therefore they could easily be growing in Maine and just no one has found any yet due to their rarity. My money is on caerulipes or some strain of them.
All I can say is amazing find. That is so sexy. For some reason when I saw the thread title I was like "cool another active in Washington..." then as I read on I said "WAIT!! wtf am I talking about Washington!? THIS IS MAINE!!" Don't know why I was thinking Washington for some reason. East coast for the win!!!
Keep up the good work.
Edit: I've also heard that caerulipes are extremely potent for their wieght. I could be wrong but I still say caer.
Edit2: The one I circled here in red looks just like a caerulipe. Don't get me wrong or quote me on this because I'm not an expert, but you have my guess.
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no men , that thing about scisor is good maybe is some circunstances, do you image is use a scisosr with those big clusters, weell,i really don´t like that method you guys use , to cut mushrroms i don´t consider natural way, i always took my find with my hand with micelium in the base this is a good taxonomic feuture sometime you don´t have to overlook, pseudorriza, or rhizomorfs, or a bluing in the base, when you pick a mushrroms you have to pick complety..
in all tips of mushrooms cultivatiion . tell you is not good to leave that mees ther after you maybe inoculate with your scissor a bacteia or let then enter free.
so why you guys use scisor i don´t know, will like to do, i mean micelium can recover from those holes also you can put more susbtrate in the hole for the surroundings , is more likeli that next flush came in about 2 week latter so is not that destruction is all aboput the energy it put in each flush .
don´t love scissor and never will. also scisor aplly some presure and damage the inside of the flesh , i will love to see and experiment of woodlover pick gentle by hand and other with scisor ,
you have to remenber also that destruction motivate the micelium to produce more, if you let the stem atacch all the conection wil be there ,if you pull or the conection simple the micelium will be estimulated to produce more fruit bodys , is like flowers some how
how people over look this thing even you all are experience grower,
do some experiment i´m not telling lies.
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: cactu]
#7610111 - 11/08/07 09:53 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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cactu said:
no men , that thing about scisor is good maybe is some circunstances, do you image is use a scisosr with those big clusters, weell,i really don´t like that method you guys use , to cut mushrroms i don´t consider natural way, i always took my find with my hand with micelium in the base this is a good taxonomic feuture sometime you don´t have to overlook, pseudorriza, or rhizomorfs, or a bluing in the base, when you pick a mushrroms you have to pick complety..
in all tips of mushrooms cultivatiion . tell you is not good to leave that mees ther after you maybe inoculate with your scissor a bacteia or let then enter free.
so why you guys use scisor i don´t know, will like to do, i mean micelium can recover from those holes also you can put more susbtrate in the hole for the surroundings , is more likeli that next flush came in about 2 week latter so is not that destruction is all aboput the energy it put in each flush .
don´t love scissor and never will. also scisor aplly some presure and damage the inside of the flesh , i will love to see and experiment of woodlover pick gentle by hand and other with scisor ,
you have to remenber also that destruction motivate the micelium to produce more, if you let the stem atacch all the conection wil be there ,if you pull or the conection simple the micelium will be estimulated to produce more fruit bodys , is like flowers some how
how people over look this thing even you all are experience grower,
do some experiment i´m not telling lies.
Very well said cactu, I pick my mushrooms by hand as well.
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: Jair]
#7610122 - 11/08/07 09:59 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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thank you you are in my list ,i´m trying to change the world
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: cactu]
#7610253 - 11/08/07 11:01 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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these look like the ones people find in quebec, another unknown psilocye
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: wowitch17]
#7610363 - 11/08/07 11:52 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you have any info on the ones in Quebec?
The one circled in red is the largest of them.
It kinda looks like a little blueberry pancake to me.
Its 2 1/4 inches across.
as far as i know thats bigger than any caerulipe gets.
also there is no ring present,it may have washed off from the weather
these mushrooms seemed to be aproaching the later stages of life.
the smallest mushrooms were tiny,
1/8 of an inch or less across and sporalating.
this is smaller than caerulipe.
the stems seem thinner than p.caerulipe.
Of pictures ive seen of p.caerulipe,it doesnt get as blue.
could be wrong,anyone got any info?
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: HerbBaker]
#7610410 - 11/08/07 12:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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warriorsoul said:
Do you have any info on the ones in Quebec?
The one circled in red is the largest of them.
It kinda looks like a little blueberry pancake to me.
Its 2 1/4 inches across.
as far as i know thats bigger than any caerulipe gets.
also there is no ring present,it may have washed off from the weather
these mushrooms seemed to be aproaching the later stages of life.
the smallest mushrooms were tiny,
1/8 of an inch or less across and sporalating.
this is smaller than caerulipe.
the stems seem thinner than p.caerulipe.
Of pictures ive seen of p.caerulipe,it doesnt get as blue.
could be wrong,anyone got any info?
Yeah, as I said, I don't know too much about them. I do spot some similarities though. Upon further review, however, I do see where they probably aren't.
Maybe I should just stop talking and let the experts decide.
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Re: New Species of Psilocybe in Maine? [Re: HerbBaker]
#7610649 - 11/08/07 01:09 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some of your mushrooms look identical to the Beaos i find here in the PNW. I just circled a couple that really have the Beao look.
Looks possibly like a little mixed collection.
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Re: New Species of Psilocybe in Maine? [Re: fliped]
#7610918 - 11/08/07 02:13 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alot of those woodloving psilocybe genuses all look similar, and theirs probably no doubt they are interspersed throughout the entire region. Perhaps the only reason people discover finds like these is because they are looking.
Those to me look alot like caerulipes, or a variant thereof, but I would love to see some natural photos of these in their habitat. That'd be awesome.
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Re: New Species of Psilocybe in Maine? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7610925 - 11/08/07 02:15 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes habitat pics would be great!!
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: HerbBaker]
#7611058 - 11/08/07 02:47 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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caerulipes can blue heavily.
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Re: New Species of Psilocybe in Maine? [Re: fliped]
#7611652 - 11/08/07 05:18 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry, Habitat pics wont be possible.
I only had a short time to grab these.
maybe next year.
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: HerbBaker]
#7611965 - 11/08/07 06:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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how could all of that only weigh one ounce? that doesn't add up correctly to me. either way congrats. the first find is always the best. and like others said: scissors or a blade or something other than ripping them out of their home.
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: Quankus]
#7612175 - 11/08/07 07:41 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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One ounce dry.
the mushrooms are small.
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Re: New Species of Psilocybe in Maine? [Re: HerbBaker]
#7614596 - 11/09/07 12:55 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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you think that was the last of them growing? There was no pins or anything at all?
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Re: New Strain of Psilocybe? [Re: HerbBaker]
#7614630 - 11/09/07 01:02 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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warriorsoul said:
Thanks! I'm friggin stoked about this!
I feel like i was meant to find these little buggers.
I've been shroom hunting for a long time.
This makes it all worth it, and then some.
Makes me smile, you writing this.... I can dig it.
Grats, and enjoy.
Also, regarding species...
It's important to recognise that, for whatever reason, East coast climate/gorwing conditions are not necessarily favorable to species that are traditionally West coast varieties.
I'd look to European species for an ID on this.
You might start with doing a search and find out where Holly is commonly imported from. Mabe UK, maybe France, Germany....
matt,so
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Re: New Species of Psilocybe in Maine? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7614680 - 11/09/07 01:13 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just did a tiny research... Holly (Ilex) is VERY commonly imported from Asia. China and Japan.
Hmmm.
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Re: New Species of Psilocybe in Maine? [Re: mattso]
#7614763 - 11/09/07 01:25 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey! Just got back from out of town, and THIS is what I miss?
Damn. Im never leaving town again.
Sweetness. Congrats on the new find, Im excited for you!
Heheh.
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