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Rev. Morton

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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: fivepointer]
#7457084 - 09/26/07 09:06 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Who makes that decision?
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Rev. Morton]
#7457090 - 09/26/07 09:07 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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5 pointer
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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7457117 - 09/26/07 09:14 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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The fall guy.
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Rev. Morton]
#7457127 - 09/26/07 09:17 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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The (El)ders, those who are (El)ected and (El)evated into positions of power and authority.
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Rev. Morton

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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7457142 - 09/26/07 09:22 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Could it beeeeeeeeeeeee Saturn?
Booby:
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Booby
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7457147 - 09/26/07 09:23 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Crypticism! Elle (as in 'she') bow (as in archery) elbow (as in the shape of the archery bow resembles the upper lip) Have you been 'elbowed'? "She" is talking to you. Who is "She"?
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Booby
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Booby]
#7457172 - 09/26/07 09:26 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Booby said: Crypticism! Elle (as in 'she') bow (as in archery) elbow (as in the shape of the archery bow resembles the upper lip) Have you been 'elbowed'? "She" is talking to you. Who is "She"?
The mother of God
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Rev. Morton]
#7457183 - 09/26/07 09:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Or perhaps it could be Santa and his (El)ves.. hmm..
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7457203 - 09/26/07 09:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is he another "fall" guy?
(S)he who hesitates is lost.
Edited by Booby (09/26/07 09:41 PM)
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Booby
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Booby]
#7457350 - 09/26/07 10:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Booby said:
(is he who hesitates really lost...)
Let's hope not.
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Rev. Morton

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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Booby]
#7457378 - 09/26/07 10:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to love watching The Fall Guy.
I want to point out to any watch dogs that we are not making fun of fivepointer or Xtianity, we are simply making fun. (for a change)
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Rev. Morton]
#7457425 - 09/26/07 10:21 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, I am defending fivepointer as the 'elect' of God to take the fall in His place.
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Rev. Morton]
#7459948 - 09/27/07 01:36 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Middleman said: Come on Icelander, you should know better than to generalize like that.
He never said he believed that. Not all Xtians believe the same things!
It's cool to add conflicting opinions in here, but don't be a sarcastic arse about it PLEASE! 
You have been warned. 
I'm afraid you are incorrect as he did state this in another thread. Please check your facts before issuing warnings.
And in this thread five pointer states.
As far as babies go, all born are born into a common fall, including babies. All are imputatively condemned in Adam. By birth in Adam all are born with a fallen nature, and are condemned by imputation. Just as the saved are imputed righteous in Christ, not because they are righteous, but by Christ's righteousness they have Christ's imputed righteousness.
So if someone dies, whether a baby, or anyone else, without being converted and coming into a belief of the truth, we know God never intended to save them. God decrees the salvation and damnation of every person prior to any actions committed by them.
-------------------- "People convince themselves of their own lies, becoming victims of their own inventions as they begin to direct their lives by standards of behavior, ideas, feelings, or instincts which do not correspond to their inner reality. What is truly serious in this matter is that the individual loses all points of reference regarding what comprises truth, and what comprises lies. He becomes used to considering as true only that which is convenient for his personal interests; everything that is in opposition to his self-esteem or in conflict with already established prejudices, he considers false."
- John Baines
Edited by Icelander (09/27/07 01:42 PM)
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Rev. Morton

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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Icelander]
#7460291 - 09/27/07 03:05 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Got it Man, Redstorm said that and I said "I see your point". That's why I never sent an official warning.
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Icelander]
#7461088 - 09/27/07 06:54 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
Quote:
Middleman said: Come on Icelander, you should know better than to generalize like that.
He never said he believed that. Not all Xtians believe the same things!
It's cool to add conflicting opinions in here, but don't be a sarcastic arse about it PLEASE! 
You have been warned. 
I'm afraid you are incorrect as he did state this in another thread. Please check your facts before issuing warnings.
And in this thread five pointer states.
As far as babies go, all born are born into a common fall, including babies. All are imputatively condemned in Adam. By birth in Adam all are born with a fallen nature, and are condemned by imputation. Just as the saved are imputed righteous in Christ, not because they are righteous, but by Christ's righteousness they have Christ's imputed righteousness.
So if someone dies, whether a baby, or anyone else, without being converted and coming into a belief of the truth, we know God never intended to save them. God decrees the salvation and damnation of every person prior to any actions committed by them.
I don't know why you are so upset that only those who are converted by the grace of God will be saved from righteous wrath. I don't create doctrines out of thin air, this is what it says. You have a problem with the author (who is God). You can try to make God out to be unfair and unjust, but the fault lies in your lack of understanding about who God is and who man is.
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: fivepointer]
#7461255 - 09/27/07 07:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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You may not personally create these ideas out of thin air, but it is extremely likely that other men DID. Digging up some dusty text and proclaiming it the word of an unseen authority does not make it so. And you do choose to propagate these beliefs through your posts here, so you might take a bit of responsibility for the nature of said beliefs.
Any belief system that contains so much hatred and anger, so much discrimination against even the most-innocent among us, is bogus, IMO.
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Veritas]
#7461336 - 09/27/07 07:54 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Veritas said: You may not personally create these ideas out of thin air, but it is extremely likely that other men DID. Digging up some dusty text and proclaiming it the word of an unseen authority does not make it so. And you do choose to propagate these beliefs through your posts here, so you might take a bit of responsibility for the nature of said beliefs.
Any belief system that contains so much hatred and anger, so much discrimination against even the most-innocent among us, is bogus, IMO.
At the very core of the differences between us lies in the fact that I view scripture as the infallible Word of God while you view it as some collection of writing by fallible men.
No one is innocent, all are born in the fall, babies included.
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Rev. Morton

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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: fivepointer]
#7461351 - 09/27/07 07:58 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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You mean everyone's a Libra?
Just kidding.
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Veritas

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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: fivepointer]
#7461358 - 09/27/07 07:59 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I will conclude by saying that I very strongly hope that you are wrong.
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Veritas]
#7461608 - 09/27/07 08:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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The exciting thing is that one day we're all going to find out!! Yayyy!
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is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao ~Tao Te Ching/Daodejing
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