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 LayYouIn
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 Is religion a psychosis? 
#7372354 - 09/05/07 10:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I want to know what people from the pub think about this.
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Acyl
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7372366 - 09/05/07 10:36 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Umm... what?
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7372451 - 09/05/07 10:52 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Probably yeah.. a byproduct of irrational fear!
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LayYouIn
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: Acyl]
#7372470 - 09/05/07 10:57 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Acyl said:
Umm... what?
huh?
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ThirdEyeOpening
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7372484 - 09/05/07 11:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck religion, all i have a pretty good idea, and it only works for me.
Yes that came from Dogma, but shit it works.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7372485 - 09/05/07 11:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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he's probably confused at the weird way tou typed the poll options.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7372491 - 09/05/07 11:01 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's for the weak and the easily led.
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ThirdEyeOpening
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And to answer the question, no its not psychosis, its simply the ignorant leading the blind.
well, ignorant or greedy...
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Of course the rules need to be enforced, but the goal of law and order should be to create a just society, not to enforce laws. -Unknown
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” -Stephen Roberts
Edited by ThirdEyeOpening (09/05/07 11:02 PM)
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7372497 - 09/05/07 11:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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it's a psychosis if you can prove 100% that it's not real.
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The older and wiser I get the more I despise organized religion.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: JT]
#7372506 - 09/05/07 11:06 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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justin_thyme said:
it's a psychosis if you can prove 100% that it's not real.
And i dont think any one on this planet could prove that to even 5%.
Many athiests i know still agree that there is some crazy shit that they cant explain, they just can say that its a higher power. I dont know, i think we are way to egotistical to admit that we are scum trying to be god.
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Of course the rules need to be enforced, but the goal of law and order should be to create a just society, not to enforce laws. -Unknown
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” -Stephen Roberts
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7372509 - 09/05/07 11:07 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some people are drawn to religion because of their issues,, like "i've fucked up and now i feel bad. Oh hang on,,, i've found God so i'm forgiven".
Which is convenient, that's an example of some stubborn religious folk i've come across.
I think most religious people were brought up with it.
Being told things by their elders as if it's truth.
These elders couldn't possibly know if what they're saying is true or not,, they're just saying what was pumped into their heads while they were young.
So it's definately a mind fuck thing in alot of cases.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7372534 - 09/05/07 11:14 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dont lump all religions together, there are many religions that dont expect any crazy behavior and impose ridiculous limitations on the way you can live your life.. Certain religions are composed solely of teachings/stories that are used as examples to make the follower experienced with situations they may not have encountered already.
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It's for the weak and the easily led.
There was a time when that is how I felt about religion also, but ive come to realize that that view point is incredibly ignorant. Most people are just trying to lead better lives and religion helps them do so. Religion isnt only about heaven and hell and saving your soul. Theres more to it, people are taught to be humble, not to give in to greed and to treat people with respect. I didnt have a revelation, im not religious now. I just realized that I should have respect for these individuals as most of them have their priorities straight. I understand where they are coming from and sort of admire the lifestyle they lead.
Anyone saying that religion sucks because there is no proof or will never be proof for the existence of god is completely missing the point of religion.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: Acyl]
#7372544 - 09/05/07 11:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with you fully, but all of that fall under more of a moral law then religion.
I dont need a religion to tell me i shouldent steal, cheat, lie or be greedy. I dont need religion to tell me to have respect to others. thats basic human courtisy. And is passed down through good parenting, not by the rightious hand of god.
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. Im not too sure about the former. -Einstein
Of course the rules need to be enforced, but the goal of law and order should be to create a just society, not to enforce laws. -Unknown
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” -Stephen Roberts
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Acyl
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You shouldnt need religion to be a good person, I agree. But if it helps you get to where you want to be, I see no harm done. You arent a sheep if you feel you need religion to make yourself a better person. You may not need it but thats you, others may feel they need to turn to a book to fully understand what is expected of them as a human being.
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You are probably calling religion a psychosis because of the whole terrorist/muslim/suicide bombing shit, right? If so, how can you be so ignorant? Just because a small minority in one religion is completely fucked in the head doesnt mean that all religion is wack.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: Acyl]
#7372578 - 09/05/07 11:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Acyl said:
There was a time when that is how I felt about religion also, but ive come to realize that that view point is incredibly ignorant. Most people are just trying to lead better lives and religion helps them do so. Religion isnt only about heaven and hell and saving your soul. Theres more to it, people are taught to be humble, not to give in to greed and to treat people with respect. I didnt have a revelation, im not religious now. I just realized that I should have respect for these individuals as most of them have their priorities straight. I understand where they are coming from and sort of admire the lifestyle they lead.
Anyone saying that religion sucks because there is no proof or will never be proof for the existence of god is completely missing the point of religion.
I actually went through several phases with religion. When I was younger I was a cynical atheist who thought religion was brain-washing. Then I realized that I did believe in God and I became much more tolerant and managed to develop a respect for some religious people. Nowadays, I still believe in God but I cannot ignore the faults with the institutions of religion or with most the followers of said religions.
I can admire intelligent religious people. Most religious people (and most people in general) are not intelligent.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7372580 - 09/05/07 11:30 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said:
Most religious people (and most people in general) are not intelligent.
why do you think that?
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: Acyl]
#7372590 - 09/05/07 11:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nooo, those are some fucked in the head radicals that are spewed bullshit since the day they were born because their fathers are pissed at their neighbors.
Im speaking of most wester religions. I have no problem with anyone with faith. Hell i have more respect for them then most athiests and agnostics. My problem is with the whackos coming to my front door begging me to join their church, or those who think that they are rightious because they are christian or catholic, and wont listen to a word you say. Or those corny infomertials with people crying to some corny chrstian rock band. Or the crazed people that bring a legal pad to church so they can jot down every word the pastor says.
Thats not religion, thats fanaticism. aka a cult
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Of course the rules need to be enforced, but the goal of law and order should be to create a just society, not to enforce laws. -Unknown
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” -Stephen Roberts
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7372597 - 09/05/07 11:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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There will be fuck ups in any system though.. look at all the sorts of governments we've thought up over the years. Which ones were perfect? I try to localize my concerns and hatred towards those things that are not 'right' in my book. Hating on religion in general because of a small minority only makes me overlook everything thats good about it.
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Re: Is religion a psychosis? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7372598 - 09/05/07 11:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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i have this religion that i follow
where you trust in your penis
all in all, it has never let me down
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