Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!
I wanted to add that a great place to learn about these prophecies is Earthdance in Laytonville California which gathers nearly 70,000 people every year at Hog Farm where Wavy Gravy, Ken Kesey, Abbie Hoffman and others started it and has been a magical place ever since. Earthdance also takes place at over 350 locations World Wide and in over 60 countries simultaneously. On Saturday there is a Global OM meditation for peace where thousands participate around the world at the same time. www.earthdance.org
Here is one of the programs:
Quote: Elders Wisdom Council: Prophecies revealed from Ancient to Modern
Featuring: Oren Lyons, Agnes Baker Pilgrim, Woody Vaspra, Mercedes Barrios Longfellow, Bob (Bubbunj) Weatherall, Patrick Flannagan, Zorigtbaatar Banzar, Nicky Scully and other guests.... Please see Elders Page for more information on these honored guests.
We are now in the time of prophecy, a time of great change. For the second year at Earthdance we welcome the "elders council", as they share their views on the alignment of prophecies from around the world. This panel will explore "prophecies" from an ancient to modern (scientific) perspective.
Topics that will be explored include:
* What do the prophecies predict?
* What do they say about the world today, the situations that are occurring on our planet and the time we are living in?
* What gifts and messages do the prophecies have for us, individually, collectively and for our Global family?
I dont know what to make of all of this - can you summarize what you came here to express?
I do love you. I do, I do!
K. See you there!
-------------------- The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.
And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.
Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.
Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....
I came to express what has been happening to me because some of this is happening to others and it helps give them more of an understanding. I'm sure somebody on here has had similar experiences and maybe something to add aswell.
Quote: Crop circles are real. People also make crop circles, but they can't immitate the ones made by the 'Circlemakers'. Anybody who does any kinds of real research will come to this conclusion.
Uh huh, so when three of the top 'cereologists' declared a 100% man-made crop circle (filmed in its entirety from beginning to end) as "genuine" (meaning NOT man-made) what are we to make of this?
Maybe I should have said that differntly. Its the end of their long count represented 13.0.0.0.0 when converted to the gregorian calendar converts to December 21, 2012, there is still some controversy some say in October 2012 and some say December 23 2012. It is not neccisarly or at all that the world will end. Their calendar represents that path of humanity as described. Here are some sources that you can look through (the ones you have access too) These sources are form John Major Jenkins one of the leading experts on Mayan Cosmology.
Quote: Crop circles are real. People also make crop circles, but they can't immitate the ones made by the 'Circlemakers'. Anybody who does any kinds of real research will come to this conclusion.
Uh huh, so when three of the top 'cereologists' declared a 100% man-made crop circle (filmed in its entirety from beginning to end) as "genuine" (meaning NOT man-made) what are we to make of this?
We don't trust cereologists... We trust physicists and the acedemic community.
So despite your lengthy bibliography, there is no original source for the Mayan 'end of the world'. You just sort of borrowed this idea from someone else who made it up and used it as the basis for your opening idea from which you have already back-tracked.
OK. Then you add more 'stuff' upon this and expect thinking people to take this as profound?
The original source comes from the Mayan heiroglyphic texts, which has been studied in those sources. You are right maybe that wasn't the best answer. There are only a few mayan texts. I'll edit that text to make it a link to make the topic less cluttered.
I don't suppose you have a single causal or evidentiary link between the Mayans, crop circles in England, helicopter lights in the night sky and a constellation a zillion miles away.
I am sure you can work Nessie and Bigfoot into the 'equation'...
Attempting to disprove or discredit an idea will not be tolerated. If you wish to debate and argue a position, the Philosophy & Spirituality forum is your alternative.
Why do you even bother posting your flippant BS Orgone?
Quote: OrgoneConclusion said: I don't suppose you have a single causal or evidentiary link between the Mayans, crop circles in England, helicopter lights in the night sky and a constellation a zillion miles away.
I am sure you can work Nessie and Bigfoot into the 'equation'...
Now what kind of evidence would I have to show you for that kind of link? What kind of person of a high enough degree of education or whatever has the money and time to study this connection? A cereologist? hmmph
MOD: I don't mind it, just puts more info out there. But do what you deem appropriate
Like I've said in other threads, there is actually nothing wrong with debate in this forum.
Although belittling, biting, captious, carping, cavilous, censorious, censuring, condemning, cutting, demeaning, derogatory, disparaging, hypercritical, or sarcastic posts will not be tolerated!
most of the aluminati are very well paid only as long as they avoid these subjects. although writing about them does seem to be an increasingly profitable strategy for selling books.
In total, over 10,000 crop formations have been documented worldwide. Over 700 of them appeared in 1991. Of the 229 formations reported from around the world in 2004, 33.9% of them appeared in England, where crop circles tend to cluster around sacred megalithic sites such as Stonehenge, Avebury and Silbury Hill. Other countries with crop circles included Germany (13.2%), the USA (9.2%), the Czech Republic (8.4%), and Italy (8.4%).
Some of these crop circles are made in minutes check out these pictures with people inside them. Take into consideration most are made in the middle of the night on private property. How long and how hard would it be to make this in the middle of the night? How about hoaxing 10,000 of these?
Circle 1
Circle 2
Notice the person inside
Circle 3 This is without doubt a Julia set. This design has 151 circles forming it and has a height length of 385ft at a north/south run. Crop is wheat and the rotations are all clockwise.
Quote: The work of the BLT research team (consisting of John Burke, William Levengood, and Nancy Talbott) has placed crop-circle research on a firm scientific footing. Of the 300 or so crop formations sampled and examined since 1990, more than 90% showed anomalous effects in plant tissues and/or the soil. During this period, three research papers have been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, establishing that the creation of many crop formations involves something much more intriguing than human pranksters with planks and boards. Sceptics have objected that much of the BLT’s work has not been conducted in a double-blind manner (so that experimenter bias might have influenced the results), but they haven’t been able to show that the anomalous effects in question can be produced by flattening crop by mechanical means.
Quote: Stalks of flattened crop are usually enlarged and stretched, as if they have been heated from the inside. Sometimes this effect is so powerful that the node literally explodes, blowing holes in the node walls and spewing sap outside the stalk. Node expansion is not always entirely confined to plants within the flattened area of crop, as if some spillover of the energy involved has occurred. There are known mechanisms that explain an increase in node length after a crop is flattened, such as gravitropism (whereby a plant tries to straighten itself after being pressed down), but some studies suggest that this mechanism cannot account for node-length increases of more than about 20%, whereas increases of up to 200% have been measured in crop formations.
Comparison of nodes within a crop formation (left) and from 75 feet outside it (right).
Node elongation and expulsion cavities have been induced in plants in the laboratory by placing them in a microwave oven for 20 to 30 seconds. Microwave radiation heats the moisture inside the stem which, as it turns into steam and expands, either stretches the more elastic fibres at the top of the plant, or blows holes in the tougher nodes farther down the stem.
Quote: Why do you even bother posting your flippant BS Orgone?
What part was bullshit?
We are talking about the allegedly most important event in the history of mankind and a meager attempt to verify this data brings trembling and quaking?
Quote: How long and how hard would it be to make this in the middle of the night? How about hoaxing 10,000 of these?
Apparently, ANY RATIONAL ANSWER AT ALL is inappropriate, so your questions are merely baiting.
Perhaps if you post on S&P where there is less fear and trembling and ACTUAL discussion going on rather than merely responding, "Hey - that is so cool!"
It is exactly this kind of cynical, conceited, and condescending attitude that this forum was created to avoid, NOT the discussion of, or challenging of ideas.
great post Evan....I was ready for the year 2012 in this topic, but as I was reading and noticed 11:11, it blew my mind. I was just telling some people that one number I see often is 11:11. Great Links. Good info.
-------------------- "Drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least they're the scenic route."~Author Unknown
Quote: Cymatics is the study of wave phenomena. It is typically associated with the physical patterns produced through the interaction of sound waves in a medium.
A simple experiment demonstrating the visualisation of cymatics can be done by sprinkling sand on a metal plate and vibrating the plate, for example by drawing a violin bow along the edge, the sand will then form itself into standing wave patterns such as simple concentric circles. The higher the frequency, the more complex the shapes produced, with certain shapes having similarities to traditional mandala designs.
Quote: Cassini Images Bizarre Hexagon on Saturn March 27, 2007
Pasadena, Calif. -- An odd, six-sided, honeycomb-shaped feature circling the entire north pole of Saturn has captured the interest of scientists with NASA's Cassini mission.
NASA's Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft imaged the feature over two decades ago. The fact that it has appeared in Cassini images indicates that it is a long-lived feature. A second hexagon, significantly darker than the brighter historical feature, is also visible in the Cassini pictures. The spacecraft's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer is the first instrument to capture the entire hexagon feature in one image.
"This is a very strange feature, lying in a precise geometric fashion with six nearly equally straight sides," said Kevin Baines, atmospheric expert and member of Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We've never seen anything like this on any other planet. Indeed, Saturn's thick atmosphere where circularly-shaped waves and convective cells dominate is perhaps the last place you'd expect to see such a six-sided geometric figure, yet there it is."
The hexagon is similar to Earth's polar vortex, which has winds blowing in a circular pattern around the polar region. On Saturn, the vortex has a hexagonal rather than circular shape. The hexagon is nearly 25,000 kilometers (15,000 miles) across. Nearly four Earths could fit inside it.
The straight sides of the northern polar hexagon are each about 13,800 kilometers long. The entire structure rotates with a period of 10h 39 m 24s, the same period as that of the planet's radio emissions, which is assumed to be equal to the period of rotation of Saturn's interior. The hexagonal feature does not shift in longitude like the other clouds in the visible atmosphere.
Video about Cymatics and Saturn
The Dimensions As Channeled to Barbara Hand-Clow as well as Amorah Quan Yin (two seperate authors) from the Pleiades
Some of this actually goes somewhat along the lines of string theory. Not quite the same though.
Dimensions - realms of consciousness delineated by vibrational frequency range and nature of form or absense of form.
Quote: The lowest dimension (1D) is the densest dimension, and the highest (9D) is the least dense; the lower dimensions have less space, the higher ones more. Density is governed by gravity, which coaxes light or photons into forms. Feel how intense and dense iron core crystal (1D) in the center of the Earth must be. According to science, the center of Earth is a huge iron core crystal, and iron crystals are twice as dense as other mineral crystals. The second dimension (2D) is the area between the iron core crystal adn the crust; for example, the mantle. The second dimension is much dense than 3D, Earth's surface. We are solid in 3D, whereas 4D the collective realm of thoughtsand feelings emanating from all living things is not solid. We all can feel 4D and participate in i, such as sharing beliefs about history and religion. As we move to higher dimensions - such as being in the heart (5D) or existing in sacred geometry(6D) - we experience each dimension going up the vertical axis as less dense, more spacious, more complex, and more difficult to explain in words. To move into the higher dimensions, we humans must expand ourselves, and to move into the lower dimensions, we must contract ourselves... The sixth dimension is the realm of geometric forms that replicates in 3D It is the home of the Ka - the human spirit body - which makes it possible for us to read the vibratory ranges that defines our bodies, emotions, thoughts, and souls. The seventh dimension (7D) is a realm of cosmic sound that generates the 6D geometric forms through vibratory resonance. The eight dimension is the realm of Divine Mind - Light - that manifests through the visible light spectrum in 3D. The frequencies of 8D are aactually much faster than sound waves in 7D in the galactic photon bands, which is why mystics report being "blinded by the light." The eight dimension is the organizational field of Light, where the energetic spin dynamics of sacred geometry originate; these dynamics then step down by octaves into 7D sound, before configuring as geometric light forms in 6D. the all-encompassing energetic realm of 8D is the reason we fell the love of God/Goddess/All That Is as a constant energy source in our lives. The ningth dimension (9D) emanates out of the black hole in the center of the Milky Way. These wase create events on Earth reflective of Light in nature. According to the Pleiadians, this black hole is the sourceof time in the nine-dimensional vertical axis from Earth's iron core crystal to the center of the Milky Way
That's all for now. Next I will talk about the governments involvement in all of this. All the peices of the puzzle are out there, you just have to connect them. Love to you all
Wanted to show this pic one more time, because I find it helps put it all into context somewhat. Also its pretty amazing!
Quote: Evan said: Wanted to show this pic one more time, because I find it helps put it all into context somewhat. Also its pretty fucking absurd and I plan on killing myself!
Quote: Evan said: Wanted to show this pic one more time, because I find it helps put it all into context somewhat. Also its pretty fucking absurd and I plan on killing myself!
somebody call the funny police and arrest this man.
Quote: Evan said: Wanted to show this pic one more time, because I find it helps put it all into context somewhat. Also its pretty fucking absurd and I plan on killing myself!
You are no longer welcome in this Forum. Have a nice day.
Quote: Evan said: Crop Circles and Their Relation to Waves
Cymatics
From Wikipedia
Quote: Cymatics is the study of wave phenomena. It is typically associated with the physical patterns produced through the interaction of sound waves in a medium.
A simple experiment demonstrating the visualisation of cymatics can be done by sprinkling sand on a metal plate and vibrating the plate, for example by drawing a violin bow along the edge, the sand will then form itself into standing wave patterns such as simple concentric circles. The higher the frequency, the more complex the shapes produced, with certain shapes having similarities to traditional mandala designs.
Quote: Cassini Images Bizarre Hexagon on Saturn March 27, 2007
Pasadena, Calif. -- An odd, six-sided, honeycomb-shaped feature circling the entire north pole of Saturn has captured the interest of scientists with NASA's Cassini mission.
NASA's Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft imaged the feature over two decades ago. The fact that it has appeared in Cassini images indicates that it is a long-lived feature. A second hexagon, significantly darker than the brighter historical feature, is also visible in the Cassini pictures. The spacecraft's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer is the first instrument to capture the entire hexagon feature in one image.
"This is a very strange feature, lying in a precise geometric fashion with six nearly equally straight sides," said Kevin Baines, atmospheric expert and member of Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We've never seen anything like this on any other planet. Indeed, Saturn's thick atmosphere where circularly-shaped waves and convective cells dominate is perhaps the last place you'd expect to see such a six-sided geometric figure, yet there it is."
The hexagon is similar to Earth's polar vortex, which has winds blowing in a circular pattern around the polar region. On Saturn, the vortex has a hexagonal rather than circular shape. The hexagon is nearly 25,000 kilometers (15,000 miles) across. Nearly four Earths could fit inside it.
The straight sides of the northern polar hexagon are each about 13,800 kilometers long. The entire structure rotates with a period of 10h 39 m 24s, the same period as that of the planet's radio emissions, which is assumed to be equal to the period of rotation of Saturn's interior. The hexagonal feature does not shift in longitude like the other clouds in the visible atmosphere.
Video about Cymatics and Saturn
The Dimensions As Channeled to Barbara Hand-Clow as well as Amorah Quan Yin (two seperate authors) from the Pleiades
Some of this actually goes somewhat along the lines of string theory. Not quite the same though.
Dimensions - realms of consciousness delineated by vibrational frequency range and nature of form or absense of form.
Quote: The lowest dimension (1D) is the densest dimension, and the highest (9D) is the least dense; the lower dimensions have less space, the higher ones more. Density is governed by gravity, which coaxes light or photons into forms. Feel how intense and dense iron core crystal (1D) in the center of the Earth must be. According to science, the center of Earth is a huge iron core crystal, and iron crystals are twice as dense as other mineral crystals. The second dimension (2D) is the area between the iron core crystal adn the crust; for example, the mantle. The second dimension is much dense than 3D, Earth's surface. We are solid in 3D, whereas 4D the collective realm of thoughtsand feelings emanating from all living things is not solid. We all can feel 4D and participate in i, such as sharing beliefs about history and religion. As we move to higher dimensions - such as being in the heart (5D) or existing in sacred geometry(6D) - we experience each dimension going up the vertical axis as less dense, more spacious, more complex, and more difficult to explain in words. To move into the higher dimensions, we humans must expand ourselves, and to move into the lower dimensions, we must contract ourselves... The sixth dimension is the realm of geometric forms that replicates in 3D It is the home of the Ka - the human spirit body - which makes it possible for us to read the vibratory ranges that defines our bodies, emotions, thoughts, and souls. The seventh dimension (7D) is a realm of cosmic sound that generates the 6D geometric forms through vibratory resonance. The eight dimension is the realm of Divine Mind - Light - that manifests through the visible light spectrum in 3D. The frequencies of 8D are aactually much faster than sound waves in 7D in the galactic photon bands, which is why mystics report being "blinded by the light." The eight dimension is the organizational field of Light, where the energetic spin dynamics of sacred geometry originate; these dynamics then step down by octaves into 7D sound, before configuring as geometric light forms in 6D. the all-encompassing energetic realm of 8D is the reason we fell the love of God/Goddess/All That Is as a constant energy source in our lives. The ningth dimension (9D) emanates out of the black hole in the center of the Milky Way. These wase create events on Earth reflective of Light in nature. According to the Pleiadians, this black hole is the sourceof time in the nine-dimensional vertical axis from Earth's iron core crystal to the center of the Milky Way
That's all for now. Next I will talk about the governments involvement in all of this. All the peices of the puzzle are out there, you just have to connect them. Love to you all
Wanted to show this pic one more time, because I find it helps put it all into context somewhat. Also its pretty amazing!
I have been told by an "inside source" that crop circles are generated from UNDERGROUND installations.
That pic you posted of the vertical light beams starting small at the ground and getting larger towards the sky seems to validate this claim.
Linking together seemingly unrelated topics is the stuff of Genius.
That last pic is VERY interesting!
ANY evidence is hard to find, so I really appreciate your post Evan. Keep em coming...
You are arrogant to think we know "physics" You may never live to realize how wrong we are now, but rest assured it is not figured out. The scientists are the same as clergy.
Thank you to the origional poster for this long discription of what you have come accross. I apreciate your views here, as they provoke my own curiosity.
Quote: rodfarva said: You are arrogant to think we know "physics" You may never live to realize how wrong we are now, but rest assured it is not figured out. The scientists are the same as clergy.
Was this directed to me? I never said I "know" anything. I said SEEMS TO.
There is no labeling people, either "arrogant" or "absurd", allowed in this fourm, btw.
if it makes it any better i consider myself arrogent, and that being niether a positive or negative thing.
Besides the over tone of "mystisism" has been violated here slightly by the contesting posts of orgone, i thought i would make that statment as a means of keeping perspective.
Your post was Re: Middleman, and you said "YOU are arrogant" I understand what you meant now, but you should have said "WE are arrogant to think We know physics..."
I see that now that you point it out, I always use the last post to respond i guess, and the default subject saves me time i spend on things like thinking about how funny it would be if i could see the colapse of modern theory on Physics
Quote: rodfarva said: You are arrogant to think we know "physics" You may never live to realize how wrong we are now, but rest assured it is not figured out. The scientists are the same as clergy.
I'm not really sure I agree with this. I think at some point we'll see a bunch of modern theories modified at the very least, possibly entirely overturned, but things like gravity and the interaction of forces on objects is pretty sound so far. We've got equations for pretty much every physical action we see on this planet (naturally occuring), and most of them have been shown many to be extremely accurate.
i think most of the "laws" of physics are Dead WRONG. Everything we base our scientific assumptions on is moving at a speed no one is even sure of, although probably 100's of thousands of MPH. The whole solar system is moving, so is the Galaxy, and the Earth around the sun. " I think the greatest human accomplishment we could hope for in outer space is not to reach another planet or find ET, but to make an object still. Nothing in human history has ever been completely stationary. It might not even be possible.
Imagin trying to float a ship out into empty space away from gravitational Fields that would undoubtedly put it in motion, then make it stop. What would it be like?
while your thinking about that question let me remind you, Nothing has ever been still. Something as simple as a fixed point is still no more than a theory, unattainable for human research. "
yes i just quoted myself :p
my problem isnt that we arent right about what happens in a normal earth environment, the fact is the earh hurls through space at a fast pace, understand that all that we see is from the perspective of a moving galactic train. We are hindered by the boundries of "physics," that may not be. Just because you can prove something right doesnt mean you cannot later prove it wrong.
the movement of our planet has nothing to do with physics within our own system. Picture this, if I throw a baseball at you on the ground at 60 mph(assume no movement happening other than the ball), it will impart a certain amount of force onto you. Now say we're both inside a train going 100 mph and I throw the exact same baseball at you at the same speed. Even though we're moving relative to our surroundings the closed system (me throwing a ball at you) isn't moving, and is therefore unaffected by our relative speed.
Same thing holds true on our planet. Even though we're hurtling through space in multiple different directions at different speeds, the physics that deal with objects on our planet are unaffected by that because the equations deal with their speed relative to their surroundings. If the earth stopped spinning, the baseball would still give you a concussion.
Here is something I found one day at a Barnes and Noble while flipping through a UFO magazine they had in their store. We of course have no way to validate that any of the information is true, but its interesting none the less. What I like about this it has nothing to do with the Mayan Calendar; it stems from another source.
Psychedelics and 2012
Terrence Mckenna
Quoted from 2012 The Return of Quetzalcoatl; Pinchbeck
Quote: I had originally encountered the idea of an approaching global mind-shift related to that date in the works of Terence McKenna, who proclaimed that, while tripping on mushrooms in the Columbian Amazon in the 1970s, he had discovered the 'timewave,' a spiraling involution or concrescence of time that would bring history to an end on the winter soltice of 2012. During that time, he also believed he had interacted with an alien intelligence and been visited by flying saucers. "My story is a peculiar one," he admitted. "It is hard to know what to make of it." McKenna sometimes approached this bizarre idea playfully, yet at other times seemed sincerely convinced of his prophetic role.
McKenna first stumbled upon the notion of an approaching end point to human history in 1971, when he and his younger brother Dennis, along with some friends, went to the village of La Chorrera, deep in the Colombian Amazon, hoping to find oo-koo-he, a DMT-containing snuff, used by the Witoto tribe- a kin of Hardy Boys investigation into the far antipodes of the psyche. The snuff was only a small part of their quest; they were intersted in exploring particular aspects of DMT trance, its relationship to language- "under the influence of DMT, language was transmuted from a thing heard to a thing seen"- and to alien forms of consciousness, as well as perhaps, UFOs. They had great dreams. "I could fell the golden chain of adepts reaching back into the distant Hellenistic past, the Hermetic Opus, a project vaster then empires and centuries; nothing less than the redemption of fallen humanity through the respiritualization of matter" he wrote in his 1993 memoir, True Hallucinations.
It was Dennis who provided the impetus for what the McKennas would later dub the "La Chorrera experiment." When McKenna described the glossolalia he sometimes explored during DMT trips, Dennis activated the same phenomenon whle under the influence of the mushrooms, emmiting "a very machine-like, loud, dry, buzz," threateningly insectile, which suggested to him the development "of a shamanic power of some sort." Inspired by his new ability, Dennis developed the thesis that this nonsensical sound-stream- accessible only during tryptamine trance-could be directed in some way that would result in "a molecular aggregate of hyperdimensional, superconducting matter that receives and sends messages transmitted by thought." Despite that patent absurdity of this idea, the McKennas took it seriously, and created the conditions in their rain forest shack for a test. They had read accounts of Amazonian shamanism that referred to a "violet or deep blue" magical liquid produced from the body during ayahuasca sessions, used for divination and sorcery- Terence believed he had once encountered this "psychofluid" during a confused and orgiastic night on a rooftop in Katmandu, involving LSD, datura, DMT, and UFOs. The seemingly impossible goal of their La Chorrera experiment was to produce and stabilize this extradimensional liquid in the third dimensional world. "And end history. And go to the stars."
It didn't happen, it would seem - to the McKennas' chagrin history refused to fold up its tent on March 4, 1971. The omega point did not arrive. But something happened, or at least the McKennas continued to believe something had. For the next weeks, he found himself in telepathic rapport with some alien other than downloaded ideas and information into his mind, speaking to him like a teacher to a student. For nine days and nights he claims he did not sleep, as a deep cognitive reorganization took place. "Theoverwhelming impression was that somethingly possibly from outer space or from another dimension was contacting us," he recalled. "It was doing so through peculiar means of using every thought in our heads to lead us itno telepathically induced scenarios of extavagant imaginings, or deep theoretical understandings, or in-depth scannings of strange times, places and worlds." As McKenna received these flows, Dennis retreated further and furter from consensual reality, into a temporary state of schizophrenia. While their friends worried, McKenna remained unconcerned, certain tha teverything was proceeding according to plan. ..The alien "other" that continued to speak in McKenna's mind long after the event seeemed to be the mushroom itself, which represented itself as an ancient galactic intelligence interested in making a productive symbiosis with modern humanity.
The other part of the message the mycelial intelligence conveyed to McKenna, as he formalized it over the next years, was a revelatory new conception of the nature of time. "Quite unexpectedly, what I now propose, based on those initial experiences, is a revision of the mathematical description of time used in physics," he wrote in True Hallucinations. "According to this theory the old notion of time as pure duration, visualized as a smooth plane or straight line, is to be replaced by the idea that time is a very complex fractal phenomenon with many ups and downs of many sizes over which the probabilistic universe of becoming must flow like water over a boulder-strewn riverbed." The ancient Chinese divinatory system of the I ching, the Taoist "Book of Changes," and the bioenergetic matrix of the DNA code seemed to be keys to unlocking a deeper pattern or underlying structure of temporality.
Far more than a divination system, the sixty-four hexagrams of the I Ching could be seen as a description or map of the process of evolution, development, decay, and transformation as they are experienced by any organism, species, individual, or civilization. "The Logos taught me how to do something with the I Ching that perhaps no one knew how to do before," he wrote. "Perhaps the Chinese knew how to do it once and then lost it thousands of years ago. It taught me a hyper-temporal way of seeing." It was Mckenna's inspiration to take the most august arrangement of these hexagrams, the King Wen sequence, and utilize mathematical postulates to transform it into a graph or wave that represented "the ingression of novelty into history." he dubbed the result "timewave zero," proposing that time was not an unvarying extension but "a medium o variables in flux," where no two instantsare alike, and where new possibilities can enter the fram at certain propitious moments. The time wave revealed an "ocean of resonances," linking every moment "through a sceme of connection that knew nothing of randomness or casualty."
Back in California, after La Chorrera, McKenna found himself "in the grip of a creative mania more extreme than any I had thought possible." Prodded by his ally an his own intuitions, McKenna conjectured that the concrescence of the "final time" would occur during a rare astronomical conjunction: the exlipse of the galactic center by the solstice sun, an event that occured approximately once every twenty-six thousand years. Utilizing software, he discovered that this would occur next December 21, 2012.
Terrence Mckenna has claimed to have no prior knowledge to the Mayan Calendar end date in the 1970s when he proposed these ideas.
Here is the actual Time Wave Zero software if you want to run it on your computer. there is a final release you can find online but it costs $19.99
Francis Crick was high as a kite on LSD when he figured out the double helix structure of DNA. Later, his role in the drug legalization movement inspired biochemist Richard Kemp to supply Britain with massive amounts of cheap LSD, until he was stopped in one of the largest drug busts in history. When asked about his drug use, Crick replied, "Print a word of it and I'll sue."
Quote: In the fall of 1952, [Gordon and Valentina Wasson] learned that the sixteenth-century writers describing the Indian cultures of Mexico had recorded that certain mushrooms played a divinatory role in the religion of the natives. "Simultaneously we learned that certain pre-Colombian stone artifacts resembling mushrooms, most of them roughly a foot high, had been turning up, usually in the highlands of Guatemala, in increasing numbers. For want of a better name, the archaeologists called them "mushroom stones," but not one archaeologist had linked them with mushrooms or with the rites described by the sixteenth- century writers in neighbouring Mexico. They were an enigma, and .mushroom stone" was merely a term of convenience. ... this Middle American cult of a divine mushroom, this cult of God's flesh, as the Nahua called it in pre-Hispanic times, can be traced back archaeologically at least to 500 B.C. and probably 1000 B.C. This places the ancestral mushroom cult in the culture of the highland Maya at a time when stone sculpture was making its first appearance in Middle America. Thus we find a mushroom cult in the centre of one of the oldest civilizations in Middle America. G.
- Wasson ; The Divine Mushroom of Immortality (Furst 188).
Tlaloc the provident rain god which dates right back to the La Venta culture is aptly charged with creating mushrooms in a bolt of lightning the bringer of rain and also thefertilization of the earthmother bythe sky father. In a second myth, Quetzalcoatl, the fair-haired man-god, with eyes the colour of jade, ran through Mexico, the sacred mushrooms, teonanacatl , are supposed to have sprung from the blood of his cuts. He is also charged with creating the human race from bones taken in haste by Quetzalcoatl from the underworld and ground by the earth goddess Cichuacoatl, the Snake Woman, with blood from his penis. Quetzalcoatl or Serpent of Precious Feathers (also known as Kukulcan, Gucumatz and Votan) appears similarly in practically in all of the cultures of the precolumbian Mexico from the classical "theocratic" era of Teotihuacan through the Toltec transition to the later "militaristic" cultures. The form of the sky serpent is also common to the La Venta culture (1250 BC to 600 BC) and the Mayas.
---------------------------
Mushroom spores will last forever in a vacuum at freezing temperatures. Is it possible they inoculated our planet from space?
----------------------------------------
Dr. Timothy Leary
Quote: Starseed Transmitted from Folsom Prison by Dr. Timothy Leary
THIS SIGNAL IS BEING TRANSMITTED from a cell in Folsom Prison, which is the Black Hole of American society. A Black Hole is a dense space with a heavy gravitational pull. Matter which falls into a Black Hole fades from view and disintegrates in the stress of gravity. Given sufficient time, its radiation becomes too feeble to be detected from without. Although the matter of the Black Hole cannot re-escape as matter, some of it may manage to escape in the form of feeble red radiation. Some cosmologists suggest that Black Holes are the link to another realization of matter. They may be passageways to another universe, just as the manholes of Paris lead to a world beneath the street. Well, the maximum security prison is a fine place from which to scan the universe. it's beyond pure, undiluted bad. As good as good can be.
Out here, beyond good and evil, one sees America in pain, injured nervous systems propelling robot-bodies in repetitious, aimless motion along paths labeled rights and wrong. I watch hardened criminals watching Ehrlichman on television protesting that his personal rights have been violated.
Sri Krishna Prem, the wisest man in India, sat on the floor of his little mountain-top ashram showing me pictures from medieval alchemical books. He pointed to the design of a man standing naked with devil on one shoulder, angel on the other. He said, "When you understand that, you can go on to the next lesson."
The next lesson was a parable about a great castle that was separated from shore by a swamp. Pilgrims, searchers, warriors seeking the castle disappeared into the marsh because each rock they stepped on sank from view. The Hero and his mate sat on the bank and watched for days. Then He rose and held his hand to Her. He whispered the instructions that Sri Krishna Prem transmitted to me: "Leap from rock to rock more swiftly than they sink. The trick is simple. Have courage and keep moving."
Each spot we stand on crumbles beneath us, becoming a launching pad for the next stride.
From the far future, I transmit these messages back to planet earth. Beware of the Hindu trap. It's anti-sexual. The guru, God, and the swami universe is a soft. sweet custard mush. Undifferentiated unity. True unity is contacted through increasing precision of differentiations. Psi-phy. Philosophy of science. The universe is not chaos ruled by casual chance. The Second Law of Thermodynamics is pessimistic nineteenth century fraud. Tensile structures emerge and lawfully evolve because of the underlying magnetic charging. Positive-negative. WoMan.
Life is an interstellar communication network. Life is disseminated through the galaxies in the form of nucleotide templates. These "seeds" land on planets, are activated by solar radiation. and evolve nervous systems. The bodies which house and transport nervous systems and the reproductive seeds are constructed in response to the atmospheric and gravitational characteristics of the host planet, the crumbling rock upon which we momentarily rest.
Evolution is concerned with nervous systems and the sexual attractive efficiency of bodies, the expansion of consciousness.
The human being is the robot carrier of a large brain, conscious of being conscious. A robot designed to discover the circuitry which programs its behavior. The nervous system is the instrument of consciousness. When mankind discovered the function and infinite capacities of the nervous system, a mutation took place. The metamorphosis from larval earth-life to a higher destiny. The person who has made this discovery becomes a time-traveler. A Psi-Phy entity. When Astronaut Mitchell saw the green jewel of earth against the black velvet expanse of interstellar distance, he became Psi-Phy. Ecology is a low-level distraction. Psi-Phy boy scouts picking up trash. The genetic goal is communication. Telepathy. Electronic sexuality. Reception and transmission of electromagnetic waves. The erotics of resonance. The entire universe is gently, rhythmically, joyously vibrating. Cosmic intercourse.
This is a message of hope and interstellar love from the Black Hole. Irrepressible optimism. Yes, it is true that repressive pessimists now control planetary politics. This is a larval phase. Life has been evolving for three and a half billion years and has just reached the half-way point.
This message of neurological resonance can be censored, imprisoned but cannot be crushed because it comes from within, from the DNA nucleus inside each cell, from the evolving nervous system. The Higher Intelligence has already stepped on planet earth and its script is writ within our bodies, emerging in every generation.
In 1963 I began searching for a spot on this planet where a station could be set up for time experiments. In that year, I was expelled from Harvard, from Mexico, Dominica, Antigua. No crimes alleged or committed. Just too much energy transmitted. Blew out the local fuses.
In 1966, G. Gordon Liddy led several midnight raids, helicopter assaults on our center at Millbrook, New York. We were literally under siege. No evidence of illegal activity was found, but I was forced to leave the county. G. Gordon Liddy went straight to the White House on the basis of this harassment. The relentless web of Karma. Thus I helped to create Watergate. Howard Hunt was a White House narcotics expert, directing the campaign of surveillance, raids, and arrests, which eventually drove me to exile in Algeria and Switzerland.
Too much energy. Keith Richards and Anita reported the same problem. Exiles on Main Street. The only solution seemed to be a boat. A new society of timeships, sailing the high seas. The Noah myth. Premonitory preparation for the emigration from planet earth. Load the boat with transmitting equipment. Radio Free Earth.
Imagine looking at a map of earth. Scattered around the oceans are a hundred little golden spots, clustering in the Caribbean, moving through the Indian Ocean, the South Pacific. Timeships carrying the first global citizens. A moving transient community of mutants who form a new nation, who transcend their former nationalities. How do they support themselves? They are the wisest, strongest, best-endowed. Mutants have to be.
Joanna and I were at St. Moritz for Christmas. She was born there in the Palace Hotel. Chancellor Kreisky of Austria had invited me to come to Austria to make an anti-addiction film. We had sent probes to Ceylon and Bali to look for a boat. We were offered a three-story ambassadorial house. They wanted us to help them bring Austria into the twentieth century. Why didn't we stay? Poutzi in St. Moritz said, "Now that you've found each other, you must slow down." Something kept us moving.
We flew from Vienna to Beirut where we stayed with the son of the ex-president.
At the Kabul airport the official from the American embassy grabbed my passport illegally and the Afghan police busted me for not having a passport. We were kept under armed guard for three days and driven to the airport. The Afghani policeman wept and the Army Major told me the pilot of the airplane would return my passport.
Armed American narcotics agents escorted me back to prison. Dumped in a solitary confinement cell for four months I wrote Neurologic. At the escape trial I testified under oath that I felt like a man from the 21st century being boiled in a pot by superstitious savages. Now is the time in the SCI Fl books for the cosmic intelligence agency to send the extra-planetary rescue ship.
The first time I visited the Folsom Prison library I picked up Lovell's book on outer space. The last chapter presents a drawing of the remnant of a living organism found on a meteorite. A nucleic acid molecule. The first signal from extra-terrestrial life. Help is on the way. Prisoners began to etch the design on silver pins and leatherwork handicrafted in the hobby shop. We called it STARSEED. The symbol of Psi-Phy.
In early July the New York Times carried a story about a newly discovered comet entering the solar system. Unexpected. Named after its finder, an East European astronomer, it would be visible during the fall of 1973 with a brilliance greater than the full moon.
Here was the greatest astronomical event in recorded history appearing right on schedule. We named it Starseed, new light, new life, bright reminder of our extraterrestrial origin and future. Symbol of freedom. Joanna began telling the story on radio and television and to everyone she met. Paul Kantner and Grace Slick offered to write a song heralding the new coming.
As the weeks went by a curious fact emerged. There was no more publicity about Starseed. Nothing in the scientific magazines in the prison library. No one else had read about it. I wondered if I had dreamed it out of longing anticipation. Mysterious. Why so little publicity about the greatest light in the sky? Since returning to the united States many other mysterious things had happened. Watergate began to leak two days after my incarceration. The United States began to sink in the swamp. The dollar collapses. Food shortages. Energy crisis. Even the King of Afghanistan took a dive. Was it possible that the American government had kidnapped me back to help out? The worst thing to observe was the mental depression, the cerebral pollution. No one was speaking clearly about what was happening. No new solutions. A glum stagnation. A damp nostalgia. A frivolous melancholia. Prison provides a clear perspective. I sat in the dim light of solitary confinement and wrote a complete systematic philosophy: cosmology, politic, epistemology, ethic, aesthetic, ontology, and the most hopeful eschatology ever specified. I keep telling other prisoners: society can't take care of itself, so it can't take care of us. It's up to us to provide the vision. It always happens this way. New light from the Black Hole.
And nobody said anything about the comet.
Then Paul Kantner sent in a report.
On March 7, 1973, Dr. Lubos Kohoutek, a Czechoslovakian astronomer, at Hamburg Observatory, Bergedorf, West Germany, discovered a new comet. As with most modern discoveries, this one was made photographically. Later, a prediscovery image plus numerous subsequent ones have enabled astronomers to compute the comet's orbit with considerable precision.
During July through September, it will be too close to the sun's direction for optical observation, but in mid-October, at a distance of about 168 million miles from the sun, its brightness should increase to a magnitude of between 8 and 12. From then on it should brighten quickly and is expected to reach naked eye visibility about mid-November. It will then be in the morning sky, in the south-east, about two hours before the sun (from San Francisco).
It is not possible to predict with precision what form the comet's tail will take nor what brightness it will attain, but indications are that it will exceed that of Halley's comet, last seen in 1910 and not due again until 1986. There is a possibility that its magnitude at perihelion (closest to the sun—only about 13 million miles) may approach that of the full moon, making it one of the brightest ever seen by man.
This confirmed the coming but renewed the question: why the silence, the lack of interest? The newspapers were filled with stories anticipating the advent of the football season. Another sign of the times. The philosophic perspective has been lost. There exists a repression, a taboo about facing the implications of the recent scientific findings which compels a total revision of our concepts of life and of human nature.
Einstein's equations. Nuclear energy. The revelation of DNA code as literally a code to be deciphered. Neurological imprinting. Anti-matter. Mankind clings to the old myths, avoiding the new truths.
It happened before.
"Towards the end of the sixteenth century, Giordano Bruno aroused the groggy world, asking it to fling its mind far beyond the planets. He speculated that the cosmos extended to infinity.
"This in itself was not so shocking; but Bruno went considerably further—he postulated a multiplicity of world: suns and planets with life, unseen companions for the race of man. He toyed with man's conception of himself; for this, and for magical claims and political entanglements, he was burned in 1600." The Discovery of Our Galaxy, Charles Whitney.
"Shortly before Bruno's death, in 1600, Tycho Brahe made the first announcement of a 'new' star in the sky. A few years later he observed a comet, and proved that it moved among the planets; thus he shattered the crystalline spheres which had been supposed to carry the planets and stars about the heavens."
Tycho's star set off excited controversy because it forced a change in the cosmology. Current theories held that the stars were fixed. But the new evidence was there flashing in the sky. The stars moved. Cosmology is not a peripheral hobby, specialty of scientific experts. Every aspect of human life is based on the answers to the cosmological questions: where did we come from? Where are we going? Tycho's star appeared exactly when Christendom was unsettled by the Reformation. Luther's challenge to the immovability of Catholic theology. You could get busted those days, as Galileo discovered, for advocating the idea that the earth moved.
Joanna came to the visiting room of the prison with the next round of information. Joanna is a star. She suddenly appears in the sky brilliantly transmitting radiation. Super-nova. All-out energy, high fidelity. She turns Her electron-telescopic girl eyes on you searching for the signal. She was asking people she met: what's your cosmology? Never mind your sexual need, your bread problem, your ideas on Watergate. What's your cosmology? How did you get here? The seven days of Genesis? The chance play of amino acids heaped up aimlessly like bricks? Does God play dice with the cosmos? If not, what's the master plan?
What's your cosmology? One young man smiled and said he was a graduate student in astronomy at Stanford. No one, he said, was certain about the path of the comet Starseed spinning into our solar system. It might come dangerously close to planet earth. Might even collide.
Joanna and I are sitting in the visiting room of a maximum security prison logically computing the possibilities, while in the sky above, Sky Lab circled the globe, telescopes trained on the sun. Why hasn't Sky Lab mentioned this flying object hurtling into view, until now? There are two alternatives: 1. The comet means danger to earth; or, 2. It will pass through our system with spectacular inoffensiveness.
Alternate one. It may be dangerous. It may disrupt the earth's atmosphere. It may smash into the earth's surface. If this were known, would it be announced by the men who control America and Russia? The Soviets have chosen Mars as their planet of choice. If the comet were to hit earth? Enormous tidal waves? Destruction of civilization? Who would survive? A weird Sci-Fi Noah's Ark horror story. Who would end up in the safety caverns dug deep, by the joint chiefs, into the western mountains? The grim significance of the Cold War takes on another dimension. We knew about it all along but it was never talked about. The very men who bomb Cambodia, provoke the Russians to accelerate the missile race, are the ones who have designed and built the secret hide-away caverns. How many cases of whiskey and tons of steak are deep-frozen in the bomb shelter cities? Who gets to get saved? The president and his family? The military, of course. Is Agnew on the friend list or the enemy list? Does Bebe Rebozo get saved? Does Ellsberg?
We recall the irritation of the Air Force with U.F.O. reports. The negative finding of the Condon report that no extra-terrestrial sightings had been confirmed, was not surprising. What disturbed was the obvious emotional bias, the fact, and this is the crucial experimental datum, that the Air Force didn't want people thinking about extra-terrestrial intervention. Just as the Catholic hierarchy and its Scholastic philosophers four hundred years ago didn't want people thinking that the stars might move. The ancient, basic cosmological fears and hopes. If you start speculating about Higher Intelligence visiting planet earth, a galaxy of embarrassing issues gets raised. What would the celestial visitors think of how we are running the planet? Whose selfish securities and biased superiorities would be threatened?
The Air Force U.F.O. study included, indeed, emphasized a factor which infuriated the "flying saucer" partisans. A team of psychologists studied the personalities of those who reported the sightings. How clever of the Air Force to suggest that those whose cosmologies, however vague, included the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence, were themselves "kooks." In wider perspective, we can only endorse the Air Force psycho-diagnostic attempt. It may be that the contact with extra-planetary intelligence, the discovery of the master plan will not come via radio telescopic contact. And certainly the anticipation of "saucers" transporting humanoid bodies is naive. It is more likely that extra-planetary contact will be received by the instrument which was designed over three and a half billion years ago to pick up electromagnetic vibrations. The human nervous system itself. The Air Force psychiatrists might have done better if, instead of administering Rorschach personality tests, they had performed intensive neurological examinations, brainwave studies on the wild-eyed "saucer-sighters." Maybe some of the kooks carry nervous systems more receptive to electromagnetic impulses.
I am standing in the main yard at Folsom Prison talking to a group of inmates about the Starseed conspiracy story. There is enthusiastic laughter about the Psi-Phy possibilities. We are being watched from five gun-towers by guards armed with high-powered rifles, who scan the yard with binoculars. They are especially worried when a group of convicts clusters in conversation.
Every prisoner has, during long lonely night hours, scanned the liberating possibilities of catastrophe. Folsom is near the San Andreas fault. What if nuclear war is declared?
Johnny James, a tough guy, clubs down hope. "The guards have instructions. In case of catastrophe the orders are to lock inmates in their cells and abandon the prison." Folsom is half a mile below the Folsom Dam.
It is agreed that I should send out a message posing the Starseed questions. Could there be a secret conspiracy to censor extra-planetary contact? Thoughts of Dallas, Sirhan, Martin Luther King, My Lai, Cambodia, Liddy, Hunt, Haldeman, and Ehrlichman run through the computers. Many inmates are convinced that Hunt will never live to testify; that "they" are planning to have me killed if I start broadcasting any messages.
Walking back to the cell-block Chaslon says, "Do you know that the odds on your getting offed may have just jumped a hundred times?"
Michel-Gustav Hauchard, French swindler extraordinaire, my protector-sponsor in Switzerland, friend of J. Edgar Hoover, and admitted CIA contact, used to muse aloud: "The simplest thing would be for them to kill you." "No, mon ami, the technique now is to say the dissenter is crazy. Anyone who opposes the monolithic system must be crazy."
Joanna said, "If there's only four months before holocaust everyone should be told. Stop everything and finally learn all-out fulltime love. I'm not afraid of dying. I know we'll be together. But I want to be on the same side of the wall with you...."
The second alternative: comet Starseed flashes into our view and leaves. Each person who reads these words will, in the coming months, stand on earth looking up at this spectacular sight. Will it leave us transfigured? Lift our eyes up to universal perspective ?
The comet Kohoutek, Starseed, can mean nothing or it can mean everything. It can be a reminder that this planet is just a brief crumbling stepping stone in the voyage of life across the galaxies. That the Higher Intelligence has already established itself on earth, writ its testament within our cells, decipherable by our nervous system. That it's about time to mutate. Create and transmit the new philosophy.
Behold a great light appears in the sky. The offer is made. The signal is flashed. Resonate with it or die eye-ground and bored.
Bob Hyde, the strongest, wisest man in the prison system, who has sold a lot of used cars in his time, scanned this print-out and shook his head.
"Too general and inspirational. Thousands of years from now they'll point to your Starseed signal as the only factual item coming from the twentieth century. But right now people are confused. They want to be told what to do. Something to give their time and money to. Like Ralph Nader.
"Ralph Nader is a monster. A puritanical, moralistic, efficiency robot. We gave them the first true, hopeful cosmology in history. That's bread and dope for a thousand years at least. We gave them their nervous systems. More practical and useful than the wheel. We gave them a sign of rebirth in the sky and a Starseed symbol and showed them how to activate and hook-up their circuitry. We liberated them to ecstasy."
"Not enough," said Hyde, who once sold two hundred repainted Philadelphia taxis in Holyoke, Massachusetts. "They want everything, but they want to pay for it. Your mistake was to give it free. They want to be told what to do."
"Let's try again," I said.
SHINE LIKE STARS! ENERGIZE, ELECTRIFY EVERY WORD AND DEED!
Cosmologist Hyde now suggests that creation emerges, not uniformly throughout the universe, but in regions of high density and intense activity, such as a developing Black Hole. Contractions and expansions take place at scattered points within the universe. Astronomers used to think that the radiation which energizes the universe originated from one Big Bang. Now it seems possible to explain creation as the product of Black Holes.
The old menopausal-Stoic view of galaxies as quiescent swirls of stars, gas and dust is giving way; signs of creative upheaval are everywhere. Stepping stones in the pool of time popping up and disappearing. When Black Holes find their places in cosmology (and local politics), neurologicians will have written the most complete revision of the creation story since the days of the first ancients.
Bob Hyde, Leo, strongest man in the prison, smiled gently and tried again. He'd like to believe that I'm the wisest man who ever lived. He's an impulsive man of action, who has learned patience in the Black Hole. There's all this violent power here, crushed together, waiting to explode in the next cycle of creation. He's learned to talk Psi-Phy.
"Look. The energy is there. You're the only one that knows how to organize it. Like every genius, you are blind to the reality. Money and power."
Hyde presses hard because he knows he'll never get out of prison until the whole system changes.
"The alchemy of power takes time," I said. "Neurological politics. The wizard does as little as possible. The organization is already there. It just takes the slightest move at exactly the right time to turn it on. Connect the wires. The alchemist and his mate wait, sometimes for thirty years, disclosing substances, boiling elements, breathing fumes, and blowing on the flames. Praying. And then, when the elements are in order, the stars are in position, the heart's love pure: it happens. Transfiguration. Now is about time. Starseed is the signal."
All the signs whispered it. The time had come. Strange how everyone feels it, the dissolution of the old structure, but no one can get the perspective to see it. Americans are too close to read the portents. Superstitious is good. It means to stand above. Back away from it, climb above it for a moment and see it as a Shakespearean epic or a Greek tragedy.
There is this throne of ultimate power. The lethal crown of world empire. The Curse. Roosevelt dies. Truman retires in disgrace. Ike immobilized into grinning idiocy by a heart attack. Kennedy killed. L.B.J. ruined. Bobby slain. Wallace crippled. Muskie wept. Eagleton crumbled. Teddy's hopes drowned. Nixon and Agnew revealed as criminals. Form focuses energy. It is the institution, the two hundred year old structure, that is wrong. The horse-and-buggy American political system, pre-technological design, can't handle the energies released in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The White House should be museumed, replaced by a towering glass pyramid, visible, shining, hooked-up by two-way electronics with every neighborhood in the land.
It is time for prophecy. The omens are obvious.
The moment of spiritual reckoning approaches. Karmic plague sweeps the globe. Scan the headlines. Drought. Famine. Shortage. Pollution. Malaise. Disorder. Tyranny. Espionage. Watergate is the American word for a world-wide epidemic of government illegalities. Torture in Greece. The new repression in Russia. Israeli air piracy. Libyan mania. Every week another country captured by its own military police. The Higher Intelligence scanning these developments from the high perspective of time sends a signal.
Bob Hyde walks to my cell with a newspaper clipping. Third Sky Lab will study Comet.
"N.A.S.A. beat you to the media. They'll try to co-opt the comet. The human interest angle for increased space appropriations. Cute little comet like the cute little spider. You better get your Starseed essay out."
Timing is important in energy alchemies. Maybe this message is too late.
Well, here it is. The comet Starseed comes at the right time to return light to planet earth. The structure for the new way is already here. Starseed will turn-on the new network.
In the next transmission we shall describe how the new organization will unite us in joyous communication. Isn't that what you really want
------------------------ I also saw this the other day at the DMT-Nexus forums, and figured I might as well post it here. It is an account of somebody who when they smoke strong amounts of DMT has 2012 revelations.
Quote: Everytime I dose high on DMT I see how the universe ends...
...its the same scenario everytime.
I see a black cloud envelope the sky as everyone within proximity of each other understands that they are all about to die (for whatever reason I'm at a concert venue when this "happens" -people begin panicking, running to exits etc)
People can hear each others thoughts within vicinity as if just by looking at them; instantaneous understanding/telekinesis; it is my contention that on December 21, 2012, something along these lines is going to happen.
A psychic cataclysm so great that DMT floods our systems creating a gigantic epiphany with synchronistic precision unlike anything thought possible. (The planetary alignment on this date, along with several mathematical wave patterns coagulating on it only adds fuel to this fire)
Everything will make sense and the universe will start all over again.
It's a broken record.
We keep living the same life, because all that has happened and will happen is always happening.
It really is all energy.
All connected.
Forever.
One.
I believe we are going to see something beyond description.
And my favorite psychedelic 2012 connection is Earthdance. Earthdance which happens 5 minutes from my happy property in the woods has many 2012 related speakers brings over 70,000 people every year. Even some of the bands and hiphop groups including 'Wisdom' sing about 2012 and starseeds. Connection to psychedelics? Property is run by Wavy Gravy and others who call themselves "mobile, hallucination-extended family"
7,000 B.C. - The Lolladoff plate, discovered in Nepal, appears to show a hovering disk-shaped object in the center and a small being, resembling an alien resembling an alien gray, beside it. The circular pattern is reminescent of the spiraling movement of consciousness - Golden Ratio - Sacred Geometry of creation.
-------
This cave painting is c.10,000 BC and is from Val Camonica, Italy. It appears to depict two beings in protective suits holding strange implements.
-------
6000 BC from Tassili, Sahara Desert, North Africa.
-------
This is an artistic reproduction of a relief found in a labyrinth on the island Jotuo in the Toengt'ing lake. An expedition took place in 1957 (two years before an earthquake in that region). The expedition was led by professor Tsj'i Pen-Lai. They found various reliefs showing "humans" in strange clothes which looked like astronaut suits (hose like objects attached to the clothes). They also found a painting which apparently resembled the solar system. The third and fourth circle (planet) were connected with a line. Also there were ten planets (excluding the sun as planet). This connects easily to the theories about Nibiru, planet X, etc.
-------
This is a tapestry called Summer's Triumph It was created in Bruges in 1538 and presently resides at the Bayerisches National Museum. You can clearly see several disc shaped objects in the top of the tapestry.
-------
In France there was a coin minted in 1680 that shows a hovering disc shaped UFO with what appears to be port holes or lights around the outer rim. Due to the fact that a coin was minted depicting this UFO.
-------
In Egypt there exists a star clock for the Precession of the Equinoxes and an electric light bulb that dates to 2600 BC. An electric battery was discovered in a rock carbon dated approximately 500,000 years ago
-------
15th Century
------
This picture shows a UFO sighting over Hamburg, Germany The objects were described as 'two glowing wheels' - November 4, 1697 - Wheels - Spoked Wheels.
------ UFO'S in Religious Art
In this painting found on a wood drawer from furniture kept at the Earls D'Oltremond, in Belgium, Moses is depicted receiving the tablets of the Ten Commandments, with "flaming horns." Several equally flaming objects are in the sky before him. The date and artist are unknown.
-------
"The Baptism of Christ"
A disk shaped object is shining beams of light down on John the Baptist and Jesus - Fitzwilliam Musuem, Cambridge, England - Painted in 1710 by Flemish artist Aert De Gelder. It depicts a classic, hovering, silvery, saucer shaped UFO shining beams of light down on John the Baptist and Jesus. What could have inspired the artist to combine these two subjects?
--------
17th century fresco of the crucifiction - Svetishoveli Cathedral in Mtskheta, Georgia. Note the two saucer shaped craft on either side of Christ.
------
"La Tebaide"
Painted by Paolo Uccello - circa 1460-1465.
The picture on the right shows a red saucer shaped UFO seen near Jesus. The painting hangs in the Academy of Florence.
------
Frescos throughout Europe which reveal the appearance of space ships in the skies including this painting of 'The Crucifixion' - painted in 1350. It seems to depict a small human looking man looking over his shoulder - at another UFO as if in pursuit - as he flies across the sky in what is clearly a space ship. The leading craft is decorated with two twinkling stars, one reminiscent of national insignia on modern aircraft. This paintng hangs above the altar at the Visoki Decani Monestary in Kosovo, Yugoslavia.
-------
"Glorification of the Eucharist" was painted by Bonaventura Salimbeni in 1600.
-------
MARY
A fourteenth century fresco of the Madonna and Child depict on the top right side the image of a UFO hovering in the distance. A blow up of this fresco reveals tremendous details about this UFO including port holes. It seems to indicate a religious involvement between UFO's and the appearance of the Christ Child.
This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was painted in the 15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and hangs as part of the Loeser collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped object. Below is a blow up of this section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen looking up at the object.
-------
"The Assumption of the Virgin"
Painted circa 1490 by an unknown artist.
Saucer shaped "clouds" intrigue modern ufologists. Could so many have appeared in the sky at one time? Or, are the hat shaped UFOs depicted so numerous here to -punctuate- certain events as being particularly holy?
------- The Life Of Mary - 14th Century Tapestries
1330
'The Magnificent' - Notre-Dame in Beaune, Burgandy
The painting above was done by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation with Saint Emidius" (1486) and hangs in the National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a pencil beam of light down into Mary's crown chakra.
-------
The picture above depicts Jesus and Mary on what appear to be lenticular clouds. The painting is entitled "The Miracle of the Snow" and was painted by Masolino Da Panicale (1383-1440) and hangs at the church of Santa Maria Maggiore, Florence, Italy.
So Pinchbeck is a source quoting McKenna who believed the world would end in 1971, but didn't.
McKenna was a student of ethno-pharmacology who went to the Amazon and knew nothing about the Mayans? Um, OK.
He later back-fitted data to attempt to make his TimeWave Zero fit, which even McKenna (and the software developer) later admitted that it had no predictive power.
Quote: OrgoneConclusion said: So Pinchbeck is a source quoting McKenna who believed the world would end in 1971, but didn't.
McKenna was a student of ethno-pharmacology who went to the Amazon and knew nothing about the Mayans? Um, OK.
He later back-fitted data to attempt to make his TimeWave Zero fit, which even McKenna (and the software develop*er) later admitted that it had no predictive power.
*Not all experiments work, and Terrence admits it
*He didn't know *nothing* about the mayans, what he didn't know was the mayan date converted to the gregorian date
*I also agree that Time Wave Zero is not accurate. I still find it interesting.
Quote: OrgoneConclusion said: Most ALL of these images have been explained IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH and not fantasy. Do some research.
The UFO in the upper right of the Madonna image, for example, is a crown descending towards Jesus.
Even twisting your imagination to THE EXTREME, not a single 2D image points to an extraterrestrial source.
Please show me the TRUTH because I AM INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. I wouldn't call it FANTASY either. At the worst I would call it bad speculation of 20 or so paintings that show flying saucers. So help m e find the TRUTH or atleast point me in some direction, ANY direction regarding these paintings. I can't find anything about Jesus and his dog looking at the crown floating in the sky.
Especially if you have any info on this 1710 painting of Christ's Baptism, I would love to know. I'm having a hard time finding any info about it being something othe than a UFO on the internet and don't know what books might say that its not an extraterrestrial ship. Haha calm down, I don't have to twist my imagination to think that they look like flying saucers I am however twisting my imagination to the thought that you have to twist your imagination to think that this looks like a flying saucer. It looks like a flying saucer and I don't know how you could say its anything else unless there is somewhere documented where the painter says his intentions.
Question for you (without doing research!): The term "flying saucer" was coined by the press after Kenneth Arnold spotted some unusual aerial objects in 1948.
Quote: OrgoneConclusion said: Question for you (without doing research!): The term "flying saucer" was coined by the press after Kenneth Arnold spotted some unusual aerial objects in 1948.
What shape was the objects?
Neat. But it doesn't mean anything. The funny thing is that I knew it was coined by Kenneth Arnold; you are talking to somebody very interested in FLYING SAUCERS. I call it a flying saucer because I live in a time after the term was coined and the fact that it looks like a saucer that flys.
If you know something about these paintings which you have read somewhere or seen a documentary on it then tell me so I can read it or watch it. I can't find any information on it. Please, I would love to know where your knowledge on these paintings stem from. I'm twisting my imagination to believe that you have any good evidence on this. Do you really know anything about this? PLEASE DONT AVOID THIS QUESTION
I am getting to that. The point being that the 'original' flying saucers were not saucer-shaped at all, but winged (probably actually Canadian Geese flying north).
They were called saucers because 'they skipped like a saucer' NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR SHAPE.
So to say an object in a picture has the traditional saucer shape does not really 'fly'.
Quote: OrgoneConclusion said: I am getting to that. The point being that the 'original' flying saucers were not saucer-shaped at all, but winged (probably actually Canadian Geese flying north).
They were called saucers because 'they skipped like a saucer' NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR SHAPE.
So to say an object in a picture has the traditional saucer shape does not really 'fly'.
Thats still in debate.
" "Arnold, a recreational private pilot, was returning home from a flight in Wyoming when he received a radio signal requesting assistance in the Yakima, Washington area. It seems there was a missing troop transport and a aerial search party was being assembled.
At 3:00 p.m., flying at 9,000 feet, a bright flash of light caught Arnold's attention. Turning to look our of the side window of his airplane, Arnold was amazed to see 9 saucer shaped objects flying in formation. Thinking they were some sort of military aircraft, he watched them intently as they bobbed, weaved, and darted about flying at an amazingly high rate of speed. What fascinated Arnold the most was the fact that the flying objects had no tail, but rather were round, saucer shaped, metallic and highly polished."
But the general concensus when you say flying saucer is that its a saucer that flys, despite its origin. I'm not going to argue about stupid shit like "oh I said flying saucer" I would however would love to see what you know about those paintings, that I would love to argue about.
But from what I've gathered for almost 90% of them the writer says thats its not a UFO because whether it is the dove of spirit or chariot of fire, or whatever the spaceship looking object is supposed to represent, that it is depicted similarly or maybe slightly different in other paintings so it can't be a spaceship. But if you look at the other paintings they seem just as strange. What am I supposed to think, oh they aren't spaceships they are balls of light with angels in them that talk? What I'm saying is that now in this era we are having people having revelatory stories from things that come down from the sky and giving knowledge about the future and spreading the message of love and bringing us back to our spirit lives. Sounds very similar to what went on when Jesus was alive. The 2012 event is humans ascending to a higher dimensional level full of love and light to live in 1000 years of peace (which is talked about in the book of Revelations)
Painting 1
So its not a spaceship but
"It is but the announcement to the shepherds, as told in St. Luke's Gospel:
«...and there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo, an angel of the Lord come upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear ye not: for behold!, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you was born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord...»"
I wouldn't say that this really means anything other than they depict the lord as a spaceship looking object that talks to them. That doesn't really debunk anything. Because there is a story in the bible about somebody talking to a sheperd coming from the sky, its not a spaceship?
This is the mystery of the whole thing, what came down from the sky and talked to them? Angels? Why did they depict them as spaceships?
What are we supposed to make of it when the Bible describes chariots of fire coming down from the sky and then artists depict some as chariots and some as spaceships? So when biblical paintings look like spaceships, somebody will say ohh those aren't spaceships, look here in this depiction it looks like a chariot of fire coming down to Earth like we read in the Bible.
I saw the number 42 on literally a good twenty license plates in the span of five minutes, watching traffic pass by while waiting for the bus. Jesus Christ, I feel like I'm in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Thank you for your consideration, if others were trolling before my post in this thread, I had not seen it and was not trying to "jump on the negativity bandwagon" or anything. I only got through the initial post and had to reply.
Thanks for the pics Evan, while I don't think much of the information you have posted is correct, there are a few gems of Truth in it, imo. And that makes all the sifting worthwhile...
This last video in asian looks impossible. If authentic, i cant belive i never heard of it. I would like a translation of what they are saying. Did any of them shit there pants?
Hey Evan. Thanks for sharing! A lot of the things you bring up are very interesting. I myself didn't really believe in the 2012 prophecy, I'd say about a year ago. But this last year have been astounding, many things have been "falling into place", in my life, and in others around me. On a LSD trip I had a vision of 2012 as the meeting of two wave frequencies converging at this single point, becoming infinite. This vision was the part of the same trip i had in which i had a epiphany that science and spirituality (especially Buddhism) were saying the exact same thing. One explaining reality on a physical level, and one explaining reality at a intuitive level. More on this at the end of the post. Many very "strange" things have been manifesting themselves in my life, which really seem outside the scope of coincidence. If you would have told me two years ago, I'd be where I'm at right now, believing what i believe, practicing a spiritual path as diligently as i am, i wouldn't have believed you. I still have a hard time understanding and believing in crop circles, and those small white orbs, but I believe its possible. My point is there seems to be something happening, a shifting in consciousness, as bizarre as it sounds, I've experienced it first hand. What it all entails, I'm still not sure, but I'm making sure I'm ready. Here a blog I posted shortly after that revelatory LSD trip, I've expanded on this list but most of its in a notebook, in which i haven't typed out yet.
Peace, and infinite love
1. The only way to explain "movement" is to say we are traveling through infinity. (refer to Achilles and the tortoise) 2. Right before the "big bang" (more appropriately understood as an expansion not explosion) , both matter and energy were infinitely dense (the singularity). 3. In the center of a black hole their also exists a point of infinite density. 4. Our reality consists of both waves and particles (the wave particle duality), the wave has no beginning nor end, it represents an infinite amount of possibilities. 5. In order for one possibility to exist all others must exists simultaneously. 6. The only way to conceptualize time is to say that the past, present and future exist at this moment, time is infinite. (Einstein) 7. Every moment is one of death and rebirth. (Think of how often this happens in your own body daily(cells), now multiply that by all life that exists, both known and unknown) 8. Prior to the big bang all matter and energy were entangled, hence all matter and energy in our universe remains to be entangled. Quantum Entanglement! 9. The proton (light particle) experiences neither space nor time. 10. Immediately after the "big bang" (one), there came into existence duality(two), symmetry, and physics as we know it. 11. Consciousness is non material and exists separate from the body, although they are intimately related. 12. All life exhibits consciousness, although at different levels. 13. Each cell of your body has a certain degree of individual consciousness. 14. Our mathematical interpretations of reality (physics), displays an elegance and beauty. 15. Our brains respond positively to any form of sound that is harmonious (music), harmonious music has a mathematical derivative. 16. Fractal patterns repeat themselves in nature (the human lung, a tree, the formation of flowing water), again a mathematical phenomenon. 17. Man(kind) by nature is a symbolic creature (language, names, ideas, information), or non material. 18. The observer causes reality to materialize, without the observer object exists in superposition or at all points at the same time. Schrodinger's cat! 19. Love is the unifying force of consciousness, and all conscious entities gravitate towards it. 20. The act of conception is a moment where duality ceases to exist and instead becomes a singularity (in the non physics sense), or a moment of creation. 21. Quantum physics has encountered realities that parallel what mystics have been pointing towards for centuries. 22. There exists parallels between the spiritual or mystical experiences and the experience of the psychedelic user. 23. During both of these experiences the individual experiences, ego loss, the infinite, profound love and unification with something that is inexpressible and overwhelmingly profound.
Ive been experiencing the same thing but it hasnt been so extreme. I cant wait until 2012 i feel that when the time comes i'll be ready and hopefully not afraid. This is a great time to be alive, to witness all this violence, only to experience what good be the most massive shift in all of humanity. Simplify and survive.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
Hello my name is Evan (I'm a Leo 22/8/88:) I became interested in Mayan civilization & 20/12 at the age of 17 been interested in the psychedelic world since i was 13
I have ran into this post 2 times now and my life is at a turning point of confusion i have been experiencing 11:11 code everyday for the last few months, but unable to find my calling.
You're post has helped with alot, knowing I'm not alone makes me feel better about this phenomenon just wanted to thank you.
-------------------- "If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." - T. McKenna
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
first off, our brains operate on similar frequencies, the skull has holes in it, shit these waves out well right mushroom grow
the 2012 is a curse on the abusers of life (elohim vs thedarkeningones) whatev, just slow time down ooor consider it officially fucking ended
-------------------- "Have you not learned that your word is bond? Yes, my word is bond and bond is life, I shall give my life, before my word shall fail."
Wow i cant believe this post is still active i havent been on the shroomery since september which is when the topic started...anyways great post very interesting
-------------------- "Drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least they're the scenic route."~Author Unknown
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Rev. Morton, Az0th, Diploid, Kickle, c0sm0nautt 11,905 topic views. 1 members, 5 guests and 0 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic ]
Images only 
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Shop for: 
Edit 
Reply 
I am however twisting my imagination to the thought that you have to twist your imagination to think that this looks like a flying saucer. It looks like a flying saucer and I don't know how you could say its anything else unless there is somewhere documented where the painter says his intentions. 
