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 Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes 
#7122496 - 07/03/07 02:18 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes-
Do not include Aya' made purely of Caapi and Psychotria or the western version of Aya' which includes Aya' made with Syrian rue and mimosa root bark.
Just make sure it's "Alternative"
Here's my recipe for "Supa-Hausa"
-Super Ayahuasca-
All Ingredients should be as fresh as possible.
Banisteriopsis caapi "Cielo" 3in+ thick vine, flowers and leaves
Distilled or Bottled water
Pomegranate and/or Blueberry juice
Passiflora incarnata Flowers, thick vine and/or Fruit
Diplopterys cabrerana leaves and thick vine
Psychotria viridis leaves and flowers
Ilex guayusa (Guayusa) leaves
-Other Possible Additives-
Psilocybin Mushrooms
Calea zacatechichi
Trichocereus terscheckii (Which is said to contain DMT)
Silene capensis
Gymnopilus spectabilis
Heimia salicifolia
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, Ect.
Pandanus "Screw Pine" (said to contain Dmt and/or MAOI)
Or how about all of them??? You'd never come back...LOL!
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7137309 - 07/06/07 02:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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oi! come on, i know somebody thrown HBWR into aya' before.
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7141937 - 07/07/07 02:10 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilocybin Mushrooms
Calea zacatechichi
Trichocereus terscheckii (Which is said to contain DMT)
Silene capensis
Gymnopilus spectabilis
Heimia salicifolia
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, Ect.
Pandanus "Screw Pine" (said to contain Dmt and/or MAOI)
id say cut out the heimia salicifolia. i have used Calea before it works nice
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7142176 - 07/07/07 03:31 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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have u used any of the other ones?
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7142388 - 07/07/07 04:22 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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using juices in it and fresh fruit works great. i have used Passiflora incarnata Flowers
Diplopterys cabrerana leaves
Psychotria viridis leaves
Gymnopilus Jr
P torch
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, rivea C.
Banisteriopsis caapi
Calea zacatechichi
blue lotus
fresh fruits, oranges,limes,lemons
virola
mimosa
datura
burgmanisa
and various other things yeah i have honed my brew
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7142396 - 07/07/07 04:25 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I´m sorry but those recipes are not Aya anymore.
True Ayahuasca is - B. caapi AND Psychotria OR Diplopterys.
Rue + Mimosa is not Ayahuasca, is ANAHUASCA.
These your recipes are something else.
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7142450 - 07/07/07 04:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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no if it has caapi its ayahuasca his recipe has caapi thus aya...
he didnt even bring up rue as one of his ingrediants
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7142470 - 07/07/07 04:50 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry but Caapi + Mimosa wouldn´t be Ayahuasca, it would fall into Anahuasca ok?
Ayahuasca are the traditional mixes, Yagé is Caapi alone.
I just wanted it to get straight, many people take Rue + Mimosa or Caapi + mimosa and think they´re taking Aya, when they´re not - Caapi and Mimosa were never mixed originally as they´re from very distant places.
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7142525 - 07/07/07 05:05 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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sigh yes AYA alone is true ayahuasca but it + pretty much any admixture is still aya so what about the traditional Caapi and burgmansia im certain theres at least one tribe thats brew is caapi and burgmansia
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7142543 - 07/07/07 05:12 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, and that´s called Toé.
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7142558 - 07/07/07 05:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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he brew isnt called toe just the burgmansia it would be aya and toe
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7142564 - 07/07/07 05:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7142766 - 07/07/07 06:20 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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i might add that i dont call my brews aya i call it sacred TEA ! cause it does something differnt then ayahuasca and is very sacred tho lady aya sometimes makes her appearance and is always with the my brew
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7143505 - 07/07/07 10:23 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is called Alternative Aya' Recipes, It's aya' cause it has caapi but other wise it's ALTERNATIVE!
Rue containing recipes are fine, just not very alternative...
Let's not argue over what real Aya' is....
Tell about some of the experience PLEASE, VERY INTERESTED
I would love to hear about the following and what esle was in the brew...
Gymnopilus Jr
P torch
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, rivea C.
Banisteriopsis caapi
Calea zacatechichi
blue lotus ( i thought opiates interact badly with aya'?)
fresh fruits, oranges,limes,lemons
virola
THANKS MAN
PS. Lotus always brings me down from a trip (?)
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7143597 - 07/07/07 10:47 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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blue lotus isnt an opiate, btw a brew i really like is just chaliponga and caapi. it works great tho i do love p.torch,caapi,virdis, chaliponga,mismosa,rue, can psilo mushrooms(my friend got em and i couldnt ID em) possibly copes,and virola. as i said i never make the same brew its always specific to who im using it on and the occasion
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7143602 - 07/07/07 10:48 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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what kind of chemicals does lotus contain?
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7143613 - 07/07/07 10:50 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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never mind it does Both Nymphaea caerulea and Nelumbo nucifera contain the alkaloids nuciferine and apomorphine, which have been recently isolated by independent labs shitty that means it can probally come up in a drug test. recent shit here
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7144938 - 07/08/07 04:15 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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o so i was correct?
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7146207 - 07/08/07 02:06 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah its a new study says that apomorphine is in it the old news said just nuciferine. tho i cant say they feel very opiate like just slightly. reguardless its not bad to put it in your tea i really only used it once or twice smoking it tho is nice with the tea
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7146778 - 07/08/07 04:40 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Caapi
Mimosa
Chaliponga
Viridis
Tabernathe Iboga Root
Voacanga Africana root
Psilocybes
Amanita
Cannabis
Papaver Somniferum pods
Salvia "smoked or quidded"
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: cpw1971]
#7147073 - 07/08/07 05:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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(DUDE PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING!)
Tabernathe Iboga Root
Voacanga Africana root
Psilocybes
Amanita
Cannabis
Papaver Somniferum pods
Salvia "smoked or quidded"
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7147555 - 07/08/07 08:01 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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cpw1971 you crazy mofo did you really mix amanita and aya i did twice and it was very strange and lead to me greeting someone who died of a Heroin OD that died that night around that time, and felt horrible heroin with draw it was nuts
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7149306 - 07/09/07 02:28 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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no I havent.
sounds scary man was it??
of course it also sounds like it could be used for Divinatory purposes. solving murders perhaps???
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7149334 - 07/09/07 02:36 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Teotzlcoatl said:
(DUDE PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING!)
Tabernathe Iboga Root
Voacanga Africana root
Psilocybes
Amanita
Cannabis
Papaver Somniferum pods
Salvia "smoked or quidded"
Tabernathe Iboga is one of the most if not the most powerful hallucinogen there is. It is kinda like Aya but lasts a few days. It is also good for getting people off their addictions. It could also kill you. It is illegal here in the states.
Voacanga is related to Iboga except it doesn't contain the chemical Ibogaine and I read it is more of a speedy high that last a few hours. I did however read a report on the seeds taken after Syrian Rue for a good trip.
the others are to unlock other doors "Psilocybes,amanita and Salvia"" or to help with the edge "Papaver" and nasea "cannabis"
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: cpw1971]
#7150668 - 07/09/07 12:35 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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interesting, so you mix iboga and Aya' and use it at one time?
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7152318 - 07/09/07 06:49 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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not so much scary as it was painful i went to hell, it was strange i was OBE and watching myself explain to him why he was in hell and explaining what hell is to him. the next day i went to tell my friend and he interupted me before i could tell and was like my friend died a month later i was like shit wow it took me a long time to notice who i saw in hell cause i say that kids picture. only met him once and never picked him out to be a heroin user or drug user. my huasca also contained a slave(burn ointment)left over] that i made for my friend.
the only time i met him in person i was giving my friend that slave and he touched with the wrong intent, then i shared some milk out the carton with him and told him to drink tussin with it in a ritual way... i was unaware but the week before he died he did so and tripped for 3 days his alot of things he didnt speak of cause it so much happened to him. he was confronted with alot of things that he couldnt come to terms with. so yeah also that day his girl friend let me feel her boobs and huged me as well as this other girl and he looked slightly jealous(which i think was part of his trip or something) quite frankly yes im a healer person but no i dont have the answer to everything and im human.
i guess the important thing is dont touch holy medicine with wrong intent.
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7155489 - 07/10/07 10:18 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm planning on making some Aya' with the following-
13g Psychotria v.
7g of Diplopterys c.
66g of "Cielo" Caapi
1-3g (?) Silene c. "Xhosa Dream Herb ( How much do you think I should use?)
Passiflora i.- fresh flowers, vine and fruit
How does that brew sound?
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7155677 - 07/10/07 11:42 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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SIlene Capensis is active at the 200mg range. I doubt it will do anything for your Aya trip though but you may as well try it. I have some Silene here from my plants and I eat a piece every once in a while.
DudeNJ,
have you ever read any of the Jane Roberts "Seth" books??? the entity known as Seth tells about how there is no hell. Some people may die and go to the hells thier mind creates and they get bored and realize they can leave and go to the higher dimensions.
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: cpw1971]
#7231139 - 07/27/07 06:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tabernathe Iboga Root
Voacanga Africana root
Psilocybes
Amanita
Cannabis
Papaver Somniferum pods
Salvia "smoked or quidded"
You have used these all in aya'?
Please talk about the effects of Voacanga and iboga root...Also the amanitas and....cannabis?! In the brew?!
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7240628 - 07/30/07 07:26 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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just dont mix amanita with huasca. or you might summon the dead and you have to deal with it. but then again i cant explain til you did it but im just saying dont unless your that mad. and wow i just read a bit about seth but yes SETH! im sure he knows steve who told him all that from a differnt live
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
Edited by thedudenj (07/30/07 07:31 PM)
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
#7240739 - 07/30/07 08:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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you know what... Im gonna do it... I don't think it will raise the dead... but to prove you wrong... I'm gonna do it!
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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7241374 - 07/30/07 11:14 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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well in that case it will probally just be painful
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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