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A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms.
#7019034 - 06/07/07 01:52 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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I will be weighing these tommorow when I pick them just to be sure.
In your opinion would this be enough for at least a mild trip?
I have 1 mushroom that looks to be at least 6 inches long. Another mushroom that is close to 4" and another one that is 3 or so inches. Also I have a few small guys around an inch that are still growing. Does this sound like enough for at least 1 person to trip at least lightly? I plan on doing it tommorow or saturday so the couple 1 or 2 inch guys will have at least another 24-48 hours before I eat them.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: Sporetastic]
#7019067 - 06/07/07 01:58 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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Well this I think would be better in the Psycehdelic XP forum...but in order to raise my posts....
...Because fresh mushrooms have a few extra chemicals that are oxidized when dry, I consider around 21-24 wet grams equal to the power of a standard "1/8 trip" Technically speaking, from the shit load of hours I spent on here reading, 55-65 wet grams are about equal in weight to an eigth dried, but would probably be a harder trip IMHO due to the extra chemicals.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7019155 - 06/07/07 02:22 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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I dosed fresh last night, the extra psilocin makes things real nice and visual, I ate 3 shrooms, one rather large at 17.9 grams, one large at 11.7 grams, and one kinda small, (about 5 inches) that weighed 8 grams wet, so around 40g's wet, i thought it was 60 wet, but now that i recall what i ate, it was only 40g's wet...
it's by far much better then dry fruit, do not pick them until the moment you eat them, if you have to wait a few days, it's best to dry them. Letting them open or grow more will not affect potency as the "veil tearing" is simply a myth. They are going to be as potent as the genetics allow, and also depending what quality of substrate you provide. I simply must try to influence you in buying poo from www.mycopath.com , Cry0 is an excellent source for hpoo. My invitro bags made it through 3 flushes, and my monotubs are on the 8th flush, all still huge, all still plenty, and all still very very potent.
Edited by jeetered (06/07/07 02:23 PM)
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7019255 - 06/07/07 02:54 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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Apollyphelion said: Well this I think would be better in the Psycehdelic XP forum...but in order to raise my posts....
...Because fresh mushrooms have a few extra chemicals that are oxidized when dry, I consider around 21-24 wet grams equal to the power of a standard "1/8 trip" Technically speaking, from the shit load of hours I spent on here reading, 55-65 wet grams are about equal in weight to an eigth dried, but would probably be a harder trip IMHO due to the extra chemicals.
Cubes are 92% water, but not all of it is taken out, so the rule of thumb is 1:10 dry:wet weight. Thus the wet equiv of an eighth is actually 35g or so... 65 would be closer to a quarter.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: figgusfiddus]
#7019317 - 06/07/07 03:20 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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I thought it was anywhere from 92% water to 97%...i thought it was one of those YMMV things, ect?
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7019458 - 06/07/07 04:02 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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I just wanted to know if that sounded like nearly enough to trip on?
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: figgusfiddus]
#7019487 - 06/07/07 04:10 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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figgusfiddus said:
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Apollyphelion said: Well this I think would be better in the Psycehdelic XP forum...but in order to raise my posts....
...Because fresh mushrooms have a few extra chemicals that are oxidized when dry, I consider around 21-24 wet grams equal to the power of a standard "1/8 trip" Technically speaking, from the shit load of hours I spent on here reading, 55-65 wet grams are about equal in weight to an eigth dried, but would probably be a harder trip IMHO due to the extra chemicals.
Cubes are 92% water, but not all of it is taken out, so the rule of thumb is 1:10 dry:wet weight. Thus the wet equiv of an eighth is actually 35g or so... 65 would be closer to a quarter.
I find this rule to be incorrect in my years of experience. Normally, when I have 50 or so wet grams, I end up with 8-10 grams dried.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: Sporetastic]
#7019522 - 06/07/07 04:23 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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I would say yes. If you eat those mushrooms you will trip.
If its your first time then:
1. you will be really sensitive to the effects 2. you should take a low dose anyway.
I remember way back like 7 years ago for my first time I ate 1 huge mushroom because I couldn't wait and tripped balls. Looking back I didn't really trip that hard, but I thought I had. Don't try to taking too much your first time or you may end up thinking that they suck. Ideally, IMO since this is your first time you should dry them and make sure not to take more than 2 grams. Wet shrooms are harder to dose.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: happysun]
#7019534 - 06/07/07 04:26 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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It's not my first time. But it's been over 4 years since I have done them so I figure it's the same as taking them for the first time.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: Sporetastic]
#7019770 - 06/07/07 05:37 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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I'm growing shrooms and hopefully within the next few weeks I'll have a chance to eat some. Now the problem is I don't have any scales, well I do but they only measure very inaccurately every 200g, so I can't measure my dose. What is one to do?
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: retrospect]
#7020017 - 06/07/07 06:58 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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let them soak in lemon juice and steep them in tea. Last time I had wet shrooms, probably had 2 or 3 decent size shrooms. And tripped pretty hard off the tea.
Although I did through in a tablespoon of rue!
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: sandman_130]
#7020061 - 06/07/07 07:13 PM (6 years, 14 days ago) |
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only way to eat em
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: sandman_130]
#7020389 - 06/07/07 08:56 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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I agree. Tea is the best way i've found to eat them. I just squirt a bit of lemon juice in the water i'm brewing the tea in. Just enough to make the water a tad acidic and through in a tea bag to boot.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: sandman_130]
#7020417 - 06/07/07 09:02 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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sandman_130 said: let them soak in lemon juice and steep them in tea. Last time I had wet shrooms, probably had 2 or 3 decent size shrooms. And tripped pretty hard off the tea.
Although I did through in a tablespoon of rue!
making tea with wet shrooms is near impossible, the fruit is already laden with water, so it doesn't like to release it's goodies, dry , bone dry, shrooms are good for tea. I reserve my ugly gnarly fruits for tea... the vanity shrooms, well, friends eat those.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: happysun]
#7020433 - 06/07/07 09:07 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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happysun said: Wet shrooms are harder to dose.
this is misinformation... wet shrooms are far easier to dose, 20-30g wet is about perfect, i prefer close to 40.
they don't taste as nasty either, besides either way they taste like shit, and wet gives you more bioavailability of psilocin, which is very important for massively visual effects.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: myndreach]
#7020466 - 06/07/07 09:15 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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myndreach said:
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figgusfiddus said:
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Apollyphelion said: Well this I think would be better in the Psycehdelic XP forum...but in order to raise my posts....
...Because fresh mushrooms have a few extra chemicals that are oxidized when dry, I consider around 21-24 wet grams equal to the power of a standard "1/8 trip" Technically speaking, from the shit load of hours I spent on here reading, 55-65 wet grams are about equal in weight to an eigth dried, but would probably be a harder trip IMHO due to the extra chemicals.
Cubes are 92% water, but not all of it is taken out, so the rule of thumb is 1:10 dry:wet weight. Thus the wet equiv of an eighth is actually 35g or so... 65 would be closer to a quarter.
I find this rule to be incorrect in my years of experience. Normally, when I have 50 or so wet grams, I end up with 8-10 grams dried.
I have experienced the opposite trend, but it may have to do with the layout of the FC, access to residual moisture, et cetera. Stamets says 92% I believe, but that's strictly an average--everyone knows a shroom is as good as a sponge.
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: figgusfiddus]
#7020675 - 06/07/07 10:21 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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fresh is so much better
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: jeetered]
#7020742 - 06/07/07 10:37 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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jeetered said:
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sandman_130 said: let them soak in lemon juice and steep them in tea. Last time I had wet shrooms, probably had 2 or 3 decent size shrooms. And tripped pretty hard off the tea.
Although I did through in a tablespoon of rue!
making tea with wet shrooms is near impossible, the fruit is already laden with water, so it doesn't like to release it's goodies, dry , bone dry, shrooms are good for tea. I reserve my ugly gnarly fruits for tea... the vanity shrooms, well, friends eat those.
really? near impossible? I've never had any troubles, maybe im just lucky.......
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: sandman_130]
#7020760 - 06/07/07 10:40 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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i dunno i have made tea out of fresh ones too but i also have my own brand of magic so many things that are so called impossible work
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Re: A quick question about dosing with wet shrooms. [Re: thedudenj]
#7020971 - 06/07/07 11:27 PM (6 years, 13 days ago) |
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I dont undestand.
Yes wet shrooms work in tea.
The release their goodies just as readily as dried ones (More so actually).
Dont be fooled........lol I mean, just think about it.
Maria sabina etc had no such problems....... good lord.
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