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#6900437 - 05/11/07 03:03 AM (6 years, 9 days ago) |
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After the Pistons signed Webber, early in the season, I made a post about how I thought it was a really smart move. I took a lot of criticism from that statement and know I just want to say BOOYAH BIOTCHES, to all who doubted the mighty JOe D! The Pistons just took a 3-0 lead and its looks like a sweep might just be inevitable. They just beat there old record of 6 straight wins without a loss in the postseason, that record was established in 89 the championship year. I know longer miss Ben Wallace and am happy we have Webber instead cuz the rest of the teams still good defensively and our offense has definitely improved with the best passing center in the league on our team. YEsSir!
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the addition of webber isnt what has made them dominant. they have been this dominant for the past 2-3 years now. long before webber was coming off the pine to put in 4-6 pts a night.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6902469 - 05/11/07 04:57 PM (6 years, 8 days ago) |
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They have been dominant for awhile now but have they ever went undefeated in the playoffs?No. Also, did you not see Webber in the second game of the series against the Bulls? He scored 22 points and added in 7 rebounds with a couple assists. And Webber doesnt come off the bench, he starts. Webber averaged 11 points a game and 8 rebounds a night, plus a couple assists. He puts up somewhat similar numbers to Wallace overall and he only cost the Pistons 1.2 million dollars this season, when we would have been paying near 10 million for Wallace this year. And I have to admit, they look better this year in the playoffs than they did when they won the Championship back in 04. Thats quite a strong statement to make and trust me I mean it.
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again, they have a more experience team in 07 than they did in 04, and more years of playing together.
Rasheed has developed into an outside shooter.. tayshaun prince is much more experienced and a consistant contributor on both ends of the court, Richard Hamilton is healthy and playing as well as he ever has.. and Billups just continues to do his thing.
i like webber, i was happy to see him go to Detriot.. and i agree that detriot is the best team in the east.
im just not going to give the credit to him when its really other people who have stepped up. Ben Wallace is still a better player than Webber is.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6902553 - 05/11/07 05:17 PM (6 years, 8 days ago) |
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looking forward to Suns/Pistons which i predicted at start of season
bulls definitely blew their chance last night
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6906560 - 05/12/07 06:47 PM (6 years, 7 days ago) |
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Yea, i definitely agree with you on the experience factor as a team. Though when it comes to Rasheed Wallace as an outside shooter, Id rather see him go to the post more. Hes improved a little bit from the three point line, its just Rasheed sometimes has a tendency to fall in love with shooting threes, when he should take advantage of his size and concentrate on his post game. As for the Palace Prince, I see alot of improvement in his game and like you said, hes just much more consistent then say in the earlier years.
When it comes to who deserves the credit for this win streak, the whole team does, everyone has just played great. Ben is definitely the better player, its just do the Pistons really need a defensive, minded, guy when the whole team already plays good defense? Thats why an offensive, minded, center like Webber just fits in better because he cant be just left open(like Ben) or the other team will pay the consenquence. He just opens up so many more options and allows the team to flow better on the offensive side of the ball.
The Pistons will have no problem making it to the NBA Finals. Its when they get there, then things will really start to get interesting. The two teams that I see coming out of the West are either Utah or San Antonio. I believe the Pistons are better than the Spurs, this will give them a good chance of beating them. I'm sure they'd also like to avenge there Finals championship loss to them and that alone, will surely add fuel to the fire. Though Facing Utah in the Finals will make me nervous. If you look at the outcome of the regular season games against Utah in the Past couple of years, they have pretty much owned the Pistons. They probably have more victories against the Pistons than any other team in the last three years. Yet, I guess will just have to wait and see.
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utah?
that would make for the most boring finals ever... detroit vs. utah.. im still hoping golden state can take that series after raping the fuck out of utah last night 125-105.
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Where's madtown at? I guess he's not all that into bragging about the Bulls now...hehe.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: killme]
#6914308 - 05/14/07 03:31 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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Hey, we could still pull it off.
But next year, for sure...
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If they get Oden I am automatically a Bulls fan.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: jewunit]
#6914459 - 05/14/07 04:05 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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If they get Oden I am automatically a Bulls fan.
ditto.. but whats the chances of that happening? have they already releashed the order of the lottery picks
and does anyone know exactly how the draft works for NBA, dont they do a lottery to determine the order and different teams get their name in the hat more than others.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6914466 - 05/14/07 04:07 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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As of 2005, with 30 NBA teams, 16 qualify for the playoffs and the remaining 14 teams are entered in the draft lottery. These 14 teams are ranked in reverse order of their regular season record and are assigned the following number of chances:
1. 250 combinations, 25% chance of receiving the #1 pick
2. 199 combinations, 19.9% chance
3. 156 combinations, 15.6% chance
4. 119 combinations, 11.9% chance
5. 88 combinations, 8.8% chance
6. 63 combinations, 6.3% chance
7. 43 combinations, 4.3% chance
8. 28 combinations, 2.8% chance
9. 17 combinations, 1.7% chance
10. 11 combinations, 1.1% chance
11. 8 combinations, 0.8% chance
12. 7 combinations, 0.7% chance
13. 6 combinations, 0.6% chance
14. 5 combinations, 0.5% chance
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Redstorm]
#6914513 - 05/14/07 04:15 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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The Bulls currently hold the #9 pick, from New York.
Another reason to put Isiah on my hit list, since that slick bastard won just enough games to keep us out of a real shot at the #1 overall.
But still...
I hope we get the #1 or 2. But if we end up with anything lower than 5, I hope we just trade it for Kevin Garnett.
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#1 or #2 would be amazing..would you really complain if you got kevin durrant instead of oden?
personally id rather have the next tracy mcgrady but with a supporting cast than a 2nd ben wallace.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6914631 - 05/14/07 04:39 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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#6914749 - 05/14/07 04:55 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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I'd want a second Ben Wallace, since Wallace #1 is getting old. Also, the Bulls already have a franchise wing in Deng.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6914924 - 05/14/07 05:33 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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#1 or #2 would be amazing..would you really complain if you got kevin durrant instead of oden?
personally id rather have the next tracy mcgrady but with a supporting cast than a 2nd ben wallace.
What has Tracy Mcgrady ever won? Has he EVER won a playoff series?
You can't say he doesnt have a supporting cast in Houston, and he still sucks.
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who has mcgrady ever had besides yao?
idk i just see kevin durrant being a better fit for them
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6915331 - 05/14/07 06:42 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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fuck oden didnt even dominate at the college level.. he wasnt even the best player in the big 10.. why he would be taken above kevin durrant a guy who led his team and dominated his opponents would completely shock me
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6915364 - 05/14/07 06:46 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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He didn't dominate until it was healthy and it mattered.
Durant came up short when it was required, Oden did not.
You also don't seem to understand the concept of potential. He's a 7 footer who has uncanny blocking ability and raw offensive talent. He is a rare breed, especially this day in age. There will be many more Durants, there will be very few, if any, more Odens.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: jewunit]
#6915395 - 05/14/07 06:50 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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we'll see.. i dont agree at all.. the supporting cast at OSU and Texas is completely different, hell look at the players leaving this year.. you of all people should know that it was conoley jr. who was the true leader of that squad.. he won them most of their tourney games.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6915400 - 05/14/07 06:51 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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and also, very rarely are #1 picks blown on raw talent, most franchises want to draft someone who can step onto the court immediately. I think durrant is more that guy.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6915407 - 05/14/07 06:51 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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I won't disagree with that. But until the tournament most people didn't realize how good Conley was. People think Oden isn't that good because he didn't dominate. He played almost all season with his weak hand only. Don't get me wrong, Durant is a special player, but so is Oden, and to deny that is stupid and wrong. I would rather have Oden, and I think Oden will be a better NBA player.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: jewunit]
#6915416 - 05/14/07 06:52 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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Oden CAN step onto the court immediately. I said he has raw OFFENSIVE talent. He'll still get his points, but not as much now as in the future. But what he will be able to do is step on the court and have a Ben Wallace-esque presence.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: jewunit]
#6915420 - 05/14/07 06:53 PM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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oden does have those soft hands, i do like his offensive passing skills.
almost tip off for Cavs.. 7 minutes.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6918148 - 05/15/07 02:11 AM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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Also, let's not forget that OSU never was good at getting Oden the ball. Once he got his hands on it, he was not able to be guarded. I can't even imagine the stats Oden would have put up if the offense revolved around him.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Redstorm]
#6918165 - 05/15/07 02:16 AM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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idk, the offense was pretty much ran thru oden.. he touched the ball nearly every possession.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6918222 - 05/15/07 02:35 AM (6 years, 5 days ago) |
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You didn't watch very closely, apparently.
Some people think Matta purposely didn't get Oden the ball as much as he should have so Oden would stick around another year.
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#6928450 - 05/17/07 05:22 AM (6 years, 3 days ago) |
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The pistons already won in my opinoin.
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#6929514 - 05/17/07 12:32 PM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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Bulls fo sure.
What a dumbass.
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#6930071 - 05/17/07 02:30 PM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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lolz.
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detriot has been blown out 2 games in a row, id love to see chicago upset detriot. cant wait for the game tonight
(ive started enjoying the bulls more than the cavs)
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6932560 - 05/18/07 01:05 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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Baby Bulls are going home and the Pistons shall move on to the conference finals. Cleveland vs. Detroit in the conference finals should be exciting and competitive. I know cleveland hasnt made it there yet but if they lose to the Nets, I will be shocked. The Nets have no quality big men on there team, they are bringing former Piston Inactive, Mikki Moore, off there bench. Mikki Moore shouldnt even be in the league anymore.
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he plays dirty, but have u seen him in the playoffs? hes been a straight stud.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6936406 - 05/18/07 11:52 PM (6 years, 1 day ago) |
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No, I havent bothered to watch the Nets vs. Cavaliers series. I could care less who wins cuz neither team really has much of a chance against Detroit. Not to mention that I thought the Cavaliers would blow the Nets away but its ended up being a good series.
REALLY, I cant believe Mikki Moore has been playing well, he was inactived in Detroit cuz he had no game. Looks like the Nets must have been spending a lot of time trying to develop him, though it does make sense, they do need interior help.
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good series? not really Cavs pwned them, then let them take a couple games.. then came back a raped them at home in Game 6.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Banez]
#6936754 - 05/19/07 01:43 AM (6 years, 1 day ago) |
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It definitely was not a good series.
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Re: Deeeeetroit Basketball [Re: Redstorm]
#6939820 - 05/19/07 09:15 PM (6 years, 11 hours ago) |
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Lebron looks less and less great every time I watch him play a game in person...
He could probably score 75 every night if he tried.
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are you serious?.. they were up by like 18 when he went to sit on the bench.. he came back in with them up by 1.. then took them on to win by what, 12-15?.. how is he not great... not to mention taking the Cavs to their first conference final in like 15 years..
look at the Cavs progression over the past 4 seasons, every season his team has won more games, and gotten further.
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