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Re: UFO's [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #6901996 - 05/11/07 02:21 PM (6 years, 14 days ago)

Well maybe you're in the wrong forum, derp


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Re: UFO's [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #6902006 - 05/11/07 02:24 PM (6 years, 14 days ago)

> WTF this got to do with philosophy or spirituality? I thought Mysticism was for this stuff.

You are here: "Community  >> Mysticism, Religion, & the Paranormal"

:grin:  (Don't worry, I make the same mistake quite often myself...)


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Re: UFO's [Re: Seuss]
    #6905029 - 05/12/07 07:00 AM (6 years, 13 days ago)

WTF, OMG, UFO's! Put up the mental defenses!

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Philosophy is the discipline concerned with the questions of how one should live (ethics); what sorts of things exist and what are their essential natures (metaphysics); what counts as genuine knowledge (epistemology); and what are the correct principles of reasoning (logic).




Is it not clear that UFO's have alot to do with philosophy too? Even though its not in your protected philosphy forum lol.

Whatever the answer the UFO phenomena is (be it in the mind or external) - it will hold huge implications for philosphers when it is discovered.


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Re: UFO's [Re: Ego Death]
    #6942680 - 05/20/07 02:37 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Does anybody feel that they have been contacted??


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Re: UFO's [Re: backfromthedead]
    #6944983 - 05/21/07 01:05 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

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I still feel that what people consider as "UFOs" and "aliens" are extra-vibrational in origin and not extra-terrestrial. By considering them to be extra-terrestrial severely limits the scope of understanding them. Humans have the ability to heighten awareness and perceive entities and landscapes not associated with the physical realm(as with psychedelic and dissociative drugs and astral projection). These are as real as anything one would perceive in the physical body and classify as matter.
Yet, a question that arises is that if perception of these entities is dependant on an individual's heightened awareness, then why are UFOs and aliens perceived by groups of people at a time? Well, this begins to shed light on the possibility of extra-vibrational entities exterior to the personal universe, possessing intelligence exterior to the human mind, with the capability of awareness and travel to the lower vibratory level of the "material" world of the humans. Universal realization of this would be a massive step in the evolution of human intelligence.
Most alien research groups appear to be looking in the wrong direction and more effort needs to be placed on "aliens" as extra-vibrational or extra-dimensional(I do'nt use that word as I attribute a different definition to what constitutes a dimension). Unfortunately, any progress in this area will not be well received initially by the scientific community and shunned as metaphysical garbage. There are some things that will take humanity , as a whole, hundreds of years to grasp and regard as truth despite the realization of these possibilities in the modern age. In the æon of Horus, society prospers with the individual as an intelligent unit operating within it, not as a group taking on an intelligence of it's own. This can only work as a financial institution or one that represses the mass, not one for progression and understanding, as the restrictions needed for sustenance of a group as a self sustaining entity stunt any growth. This is why ufo research programs, energy conservation outfits, the AA and drug rehab programs, and pro-drug advocates alike always fail in their original goals.
And yes, I have seen a ufo(by claiming that one sees a ufo, does it not become identified? Hmm.).
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Re: UFO's [Re: lavod]
    #6945471 - 05/21/07 03:01 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

i swear the other night i saw a UFO and this was no plane planes go straight this thing moved straight then to the left(dramatic movement) and just sort of lingered for a few moments then moved again only up then to the right then it just kinda dissappeared or faded away not sure which. and it looked like a star only kinda a lil more orange in color...and stars definetly dont move that dramtically.

i sat out and watched it i dont really think that i would get probed or abducted by something so far away....


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Re: UFO's [Re: fantasylndvictm]
    #6947368 - 05/21/07 03:48 PM (6 years, 4 days ago)

You have to really reserch the UFO phenomena to realise that it is something physically real. As has happened with many researchers (A. Hynek and N. Pope etc).

They start off taking the subject lightly but eventually realise that the mass of solid evidence (physical traces, radar evidence, expert testimony etc) clearly shows that there is something real and likely non-human.

Hence, why there is so much public confusion over the subject and there always will be, until the E.T meets a group of Earth scientists and let them analyse them. Then it will be publicly announced and accepted. Even then - the majority may still disregard it as a hoax.


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Re: UFO's [Re: Ego Death]
    #6947563 - 05/21/07 04:37 PM (6 years, 4 days ago)

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Yes, but physical evidence and radar do not disprove aliens as extra-vibrational. "Ghosts" have been known to leave behind physical evidence. People very skilled with astral travel have been known to influence the physical realm. Though rare, some people can evoke demons and angels to concrete physical manifestation.
One thing that I failed to mention in my first post is that it is possible that they are a physical force manifested from the psyche of an individual under certain conditions, like a poltergeist. This is more far fetched, but I would still regard it as possible and it is worth noting.
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Re: UFO's [Re: lavod]
    #6948450 - 05/21/07 08:29 PM (6 years, 4 days ago)

having never met anyone else who has seen these things unless they were with me i have asked myself whether or not i was manifesting them in some form or other, always of sober mind.


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Re: UFO's [Re: LampShadeHelmet]
    #6951625 - 05/22/07 01:45 PM (6 years, 3 days ago)

Well they just did a story about cops having thesel ittle spy planes, that is what I saw.


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Re: UFO's [Re: lavod]
    #6960171 - 05/24/07 07:23 AM (6 years, 1 day ago)

I agree.

When we start speculating what are inside of/or controlling these things it becomes a whole new matter!

The could be anything but we can only work on what seems likely etc
All I know for certain is that there are craft that are real and exibhit technology traits far ahead of anything in known military.

Then we have abductee's who often come back with surprisingly similar stories. Ultimately these 'beings' could be E.T, multi-dimensional, from the center of the Earth, us from the future! The list goes on - but I prefer to stay conservative and stick with the view that they are most likely from a planet in our universe although am open-minded to any possability.


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Re: UFO's [Re: Ego Death]
    #7034533 - 06/11/07 07:50 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Ego Death said:
I agree.

When we start speculating what are inside of/or controlling these things it becomes a whole new matter!

The could be anything but we can only work on what seems likely etc
All I know for certain is that there are craft that are real and exibhit technology traits far ahead of anything in known military.

Then we have abductee's who often come back with surprisingly similar stories. Ultimately these 'beings' could be E.T, multi-dimensional, from the center of the Earth, us from the future! The list goes on - but I prefer to stay conservative and stick with the view that they are most likely from a planet in our universe although am open-minded to any possability.




That is an assumption, you must realize that.

Military technology is WELL over 100+ years ahead of public technology(this is a known fact - if I recall correctly for every year of public technology, they advance FORTY-THREE years).

Also, technology's rate of acceleration is constantly increasing, so with each passing year, the gap becomes even greater.

Do you think the public could have predicted what kind of technology we have today, 100 years ago?

Please keep the assumptions to a minimum, in my experience, they lead to very destructive mind-sets.


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Re: UFO's [Re: ravin0ff]
    #7036420 - 06/12/07 03:39 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Yes ok but when you study the history of UFO's - similar things have been reported since we could report them!

Things like what we see today were reported by astonomers when our armies were still using swords and had never heard of aeroplanes.

There are paintings from long ago that depict silver discs with lights around the base.

I don't believe that the military is that much more advanced - think about Stealth they invented it and got it commercial about 25 years before it became known about. Thats a quarter of your 'assumed' 100 year advancement!

I do think theres evidence for these craft flying around our skies long before humans had invented aircraft.


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Re: UFO's [Re: Ego Death]
    #7036438 - 06/12/07 03:47 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Heres my assumption;

Some (if not the majority of) abductee / close encounter victims are not delusional or lying (some cultures are completely seperate from mainstream media etc yet still report very similar stories)

Heres yours;

The military must be dressing up as alien looking creatures and abducting people in super advanced technology that nobody has any idea about.


I simply think its more likely to be exactly what it seems to be.


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Re: UFO's [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7036581 - 06/12/07 04:58 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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our generation deserves to know the truth about the UFO phenomenon.




Why would our generation deserve anything, we havent done shit.....

And Ron Paul? Are you Crazy?

And while I do agree with you, knowing the TRUTH is important, but can everyone handle it?

And once again, Ron Paul unfucking America? Come on dude.....Just look at the guy, hes such a sleeze bag.


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Re: UFO's [Re: TMshroom]
    #7036664 - 06/12/07 05:51 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I saw, along with my gf, a buddy and his gf, on the beach in Rocky Point, Mexico in the state of Sonora. The most incredible pulsating glowing pure green and blue lite flash, zoom about hover and disappear into a cloud and not come out the other side!!!!! We looked at each other LIKE DID YOU SEE THAT HOLY SHIT WTF WAS THAT!!! WHHHHOOOOOOSH We were perfectly sober{ okay smoked a joint about an hour before but thats it!!} we had just driven into town about 9:30 pm and went to greet the ocean when we all looked up at the same time and saw it, It was amazing


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Re: UFO's [Re: Ego Death]
    #7036772 - 06/12/07 07:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

> and exibhit technology traits far ahead of anything in known military.

It is the unknown military technology that matters, however. The military technology that we know about is the stuff they don't care to keep secret anymore.


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