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 BrainChemicals
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 Re: Spiritual use of psychedelics or not? (Poll)  [Re: thedudenj]
#6841257 - 04/27/07 02:55 PM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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Both, definitely. Spiritual moreso when I'm alone, social/fun when I'm with others.
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ColdCash
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Re: Spiritual use of psychedelics or not? (Poll) [Re: dedjam]
#6842057 - 04/27/07 06:40 PM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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How am I on a high horse by making that statement? If people want to use psychadelics for spiritual purposes, I and most people I've seen on this forum who are not using them for spirituality don't go around preaching about it. I just don't like how there is a tendency for people using them for spiritual purposes to look down upon people who don't use them for that reason. I'm not saying everyone is like that but it's the general feeling I get most of the time.
I say to each their own, I don't mind what you're doing if you don't mind what I'm doing.
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Re: Spiritual use of psychedelics or not? (Poll) [Re: ColdCash]
#6842168 - 04/27/07 07:03 PM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
ColdCash said:
I just don't like how there is a tendency for people using them for spiritual purposes to look down upon people who don't use them for that reason.
I've used them for both, at different phases. Now I'm mainly into it for spiritual purposes. Although a good walk outside while daytrippin is fun + spiritual at the same time.
Just b/c a higher percentage of people use them for spiritual purposes and choose to talk about it doesn't mean they are on a high horse, unless maybe you feel guilty. Or maybe there were just a few ppl that you were referring too. I think that there is no reason to look down on someone who does it for fun. Whats important is that the experience is being experienced and its putting one in that state of mind. It puts out good vibes regardless of the intention. Minds can be influenced positively without the presence of spirituality and many can reach very wise conclusions while in the pursuit of having fun.
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And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
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ColdCash
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Re: Spiritual use of psychedelics or not? (Poll) [Re: SDP]
#6842199 - 04/27/07 07:14 PM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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Whats important is that the experience is being experienced and its putting one in that state of mind. It puts out good vibes regardless of the intention. Minds can be influenced positively without the presence of spirituality and many can reach very wise conclusions while in the pursuit of having fun.
Agreed. 
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 Mosis
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Re: Spiritual use of psychedelics or not? (Poll) [Re: ColdCash]
#6843702 - 04/28/07 02:38 AM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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Define spiritual.
Psilocybin is a chemical that changes the way your brain processes information. It does not connect you to an already non-existent supernatural being or reality.
However, I do not take mushrooms or LSD for shits and giggles. I have profound, life-changing experiences on these substances, and they offer myriad insights and ideas. Like redgreenvines said, I rejoice in humanity and existence, and the potential available to do great things with this life we have.
Secular spirituality, if you will.
MDMA is my "fun" drug, which I reserve for very special occasions 1-2 times a year.
Weed is my general purpose relaxant, social inebriant, and celebratory drug.
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Ajna4201
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Re: Spiritual use of psychedelics or not? (Poll) [Re: Mosis]
#6844115 - 04/28/07 04:30 AM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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If having fun affects your spirit, then doesn't that mean that any sort of fun is, to an extent, spiritual?
The important thing here (I believe) is that the psychedelic experience is going to be thought provoking to at least SOME degree no matter what. Even if you take psychedelics purely for recreational purposes with no thought whatsoever to whatever you consider "spirituality", the nature of the drug dictates that it is going to affect you as a person to some extent.
I believe that EVERY experience affects who we are, and because we are spiritual beings, affects us spiritually.
However, not everyone shares this opinion. Many people seem to already have hit the nail on the head. Redgreenvines and SDP I agree with particularly.
Interpretation often directly relates to intention, but in the end the psychedelic experience simply is what it is.
Edited by Ajna4201 (04/28/07 04:46 AM)
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Re: Spiritual use of psychedelics or not? (Poll) [Re: Ajna4201]
#6844333 - 04/28/07 08:39 AM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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My main reason is spiritual, although it usually comes with fun, which is of course welcome 
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