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 Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? 
#6770215 - 04/10/07 03:23 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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On a community as large as the Shroomery there are bound to be a number of members who are underage. What is your opinion?
members who are seriously suspected to be underage are banned on sight, no exceptions
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770227 - 04/10/07 03:26 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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minor than 17: 1 in 25
minor than 15: 1 in 100
and there should be no minors here... not that i have anything against them, but they pose a certain risk to the community...
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770230 - 04/10/07 03:27 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I say if a minor wants to corrupt themselves by spending their days wallowing away in OTD - then fucken let em
we need more corruption of little kids 
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: In(di)go]
#6770231 - 04/10/07 03:27 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: JunkFood]
#6770241 - 04/10/07 03:29 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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JunkFood said:
Ythan was 15 when he made this site
i know... but it certainly didn't have as much attention from the media and/or government back then... if anything like ripper should happen again and it just happens to be an underage kid, this site will be in for some real trouble...
it doesn't even have to go that far... if some parents find out their kid is growing shrooms and gets his information from this site, a lawsuit is not that far around the corner...
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770251 - 04/10/07 03:31 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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However many there are here they should clear out and come back when they're 18.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770262 - 04/10/07 03:34 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think that 1:10 are <17yo, 1:25 are <15yo and there should be no minors whatsoever.
Aside from legal issues the Shroomery is a community that revolves around drug use and thats no place for a minor and especially a kid to hang out.
In the 1980s and 1990s in Holland you could buy a beer or buy legal marijuana at the age of 16. From a practical point of view I would have no problems with it if the age limit for Shroomery membership were lowered from 18 to 16, but that's the edge.
In my view, ideally, psychedelics shouldn't even enter one's life before age 23-25 or so, when you've already established your role in society. Ideally, even 18 is too young I think, but like the saying goes: "when Ifs and Buts were candy and nuts, what a wonderful christmas it would be"
I think a sizable minority here is 15yo and younger, and that worries me a great deal.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: In(di)go]
#6770266 - 04/10/07 03:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
In(di)go said:
i know... but it certainly didn't have as much attention from the media and/or government back then... if anything like ripper should happen again and it just happens to be an underage kid, this site will be in for some real trouble...
I heard about the Ripper thing, but I heard that The Shroomery got virtually no mention; and what other kinds of attention do we get?
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770268 - 04/10/07 03:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't want minors to be going in OTD. Or the Cult forums. They can learn about peoples experiences, but i wouldn't want to teach a child how to grow something. When a kid gets in trouble it fucks up there lives for a long time. But i feel they should be able to get knowledge from the hunting forum and the gourmet and medicinal forum. I wouldn't want them going to the market place either.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770271 - 04/10/07 03:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think 1 in 4 if not more are underage. So I voted perhaps more. It doesn't bother me as long as they act at least as mature as us monkeys.
I joined back when I was 16 and looking back I'm really surprised I didn't get banned. It was painfully obvious I was too young. 
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770272 - 04/10/07 03:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have always thought that age is an extremely unfair restriction. I've gone through some things in my childhood that lots of people don't see until they're out of college. As long as they are mature enough and both know and care about what they're saying, I say to hell with that restriction. Hell, it's mainly the government that imposes such age limitations, and since when have we cared about the government? But, if you know that a user is underage, odds are that they have proved that they should also be banned. 
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: JunkFood]
#6770292 - 04/10/07 03:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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JunkFood said:
I heard about the Ripper thing, but I heard that The Shroomery got virtually no mention; and what other kinds of attention do we get?
the shroomery got virtually no mention because of the hard work of our admins... and it's true that we don't get any other attention, but that can change in a heartbeat... and the age disclaimer on the front page wouldn't exist you can bet your ass it could change even faster...
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770302 - 04/10/07 03:43 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sympathetic to minors being here, since most activity these forum's talk about is illegal no matter what age you are
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: In(di)go]
#6770303 - 04/10/07 03:44 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What's the point of putting "blank votes" in a poll?
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: DNKYD]
#6770304 - 04/10/07 03:44 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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This site makes everyone agree to a disclaimer that they are of the correct age, surely this negates liability? There are definitely underage members here and unless they are sensible they will inevitably make themselves obvious. Ripper wasn't underage though was he? I wasn't here when that happened but I remember hearing about it, shit I have the chat room transcript as a pdf kicking about somewhere. To me that shows that some of our non-underage members themselves are liabilities.
There are effective measures of reducing underage members that would be beneficial to the site, like having to make a small donation for registration. Obviously a few would still slip through but hopefully a system like that would help curb the flow, I would happily donate just to keep my account. Just ideas. If the site's disclaimer is water tight and states about the information on the site being presented as entertainment and/or for research purposes and is not intended to encourage anyone we should be ok. I'd hate to see overgrow happen all over again.
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Isnt the war on drugs supposed to reduce harm? So far all i see are casualties.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: In(di)go]
#6770306 - 04/10/07 03:44 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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This bar got stormed by police. Looking for underage people. They found 4 out of the 30 people there to be underage. So you know it is a real issue in some ways. I say they shouldn't regulate what is shaired out here in the ether. They can try and they are and will probably always will try to.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: j3ckyl]
#6770329 - 04/10/07 03:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd pay $20 a year to keep my account....
....but no more.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#6770347 - 04/10/07 03:54 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know there are a lot of minors on this site, everyone starts their drug use sometime and it's usually in the teen years when it happens. I can agree with the fact that kids under the age of 16 shouldn't be using chemicals, i might even go so far as saying wait til your 18, but 2 yrs to me doesn't make all that much of a difference.
I understand the legal implications behind having minors on a site like this so i stand behind the rules about banning them until the proper age. However, sometimes these minors really do have something to contribute to the community. While it's obvious the majority of younger people act like fucking retards, there are the few gems in the bunch who shouldn't be ostricized because of their retarded peers.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: Brewmaster]
#6770364 - 04/10/07 03:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What's this ripper business about?
I'd say as long as people are responsible and intelligent enough to not make themselves seem like stupid 15 year olds who like getting high, there's no problem. If they can be singled out as underage, a person has probably posted sufficient nonsense to warrant a ban anyway.
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Re: Underage Shroomerites -- a minor issue? [Re: coda]
#6770365 - 04/10/07 03:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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As I said though, the ones that are valuable contributors to the site are hopefully smart enough to avoid being caught by us or any of their peers. 16/18 I'm not sure about that, I'm 20 now and I've been using drugs since I was 15 but I don't know if that's a reflection on me or society.
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Isnt the war on drugs supposed to reduce harm? So far all i see are casualties.
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