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 10 reasons to throw out your microwave 
#6760149 - 04/08/07 06:08 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ten Reasons to Throw out your Microwave Oven
From the conclusions of the Swiss, Russian and German scientific clinical studies, we can no longer ignore the microwave oven sitting in our kitchens. Based on this research, we will conclude this article with the following:
1). Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term - permanent - brain damage by "shorting out" electrical impulses in the brain [de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain tissue].
2). The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food.
3). Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by continually eating microwaved foods.
4). The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual [long term, permanent] within the human body.
5). Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down.
6). The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when cooked in microwave ovens.
7). Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer in America.
8). The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to increase in human blood.
9). Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies through lymph gland and blood serum alterations.
10). Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence.
Have you tossed out your microwave oven yet?
After you throw out your microwave you can use a toaster oven as a replacement. It works well for most and is nearly as quick.
The use of artificial microwave transmissions for subliminal psychological control, a.k.a. "brainwashing", has also been proven. We're attempting to obtain copies of the 1970's Russian research documents and results written by Drs. Luria and Perov specifying their clinical experiments in this area.
CATEGORY III
BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF EXPOSURE
Exposure to microwave emissions also had an unpredictably negative effect upon the general biological welfare of humans.
This was not discovered until the Russians experimented with highly sophisticated equipment and discovered that a human did not even need to ingest the material substance of the microwaved food substances: that even exposure to the energy-field itself was sufficient to cause such adverse side effects that the use of any such microwave apparatus was forbidden in 1976 by Soviet state law.
The following are the enumerated effects:
1. A breakdown of the human "life-energy field" in those who were exposed to microwave ovens while in operation, with side-effects to the human energy field of increasingly longer duration;
2. A degeneration of the cellular voltage parallels during the process of using the apparatus, especially in the blood and lymphatic areas;
3. A degeneration and destabilization of the external energy activated potentials of food utilization within the processes of human metabolism;
4. A degeneration and destabilization of internal cellular membrane potentials while transferring catabolic [metabolic breakdown] processes into the blood serum from the digestive process;
5. Degeneration and circuit breakdowns of electrical nerve impulses within the junction potentials of the cerebrum [the front portion of the brain where thought and higher functions reside];
6. A degeneration and breakdown of nerve electrical circuits and loss of energy field symmetry in the neuroplexuses [nerve centers] both in the front and the rear of the central and autonomic nervous systems;
7. Loss of balance and circuiting of the bioelectric strengths within the ascending reticular activating system [the system which controls the function of consciousness];
8. A long term cumulative loss of vital energies within humans, animals and plants that were located within a 500-meter radius of the operational equipment;
9. Long lasting residual effects of magnetic "deposits" were located throughout the nervous system and lymphatic system;
10. A destabilization and interruption in the production of hormones and maintenance of hormonal balance in males and females;
11. Markedly higher levels of brainwave disturbance in the alpha, theta, and delta wave signal patterns of persons exposed to microwave emission fields, and;
12. Because of this brainwave disturbance, negative psychological effects were noted, including loss of memory, loss of ability to concentrate, suppressed emotional threshold, deceleration of intellective processes, and interruptive sleep episodes in a statistically higher percentage of individuals subjected to continual range emissive field effects of microwave apparatus, either in cooking apparatus or in transmission stations.
Forensic Research Conclusions
From the twenty-eight above enumerated indications, the use of microwave apparatus is definitely not advisable; and, with the decision of the Soviet government in 1976, present scientific opinion in many countries concerning the use of such apparatus is clearly in evidence.
Due to the problem of random magnetic residulation and binding within the biological systems of the body (Category III:9), which can ultimately effect the neurological systems, primarily the brain and neuroplexuses (nerve centers), long term depolarization of tissue neuroelectric circuits can result.
Because these effects can cause virtually irreversible damage to the neuroelectrical integrity of the various components of the nervous system (I. R. Luria, Novosibirsk 1975a), ingestion of microwaved foods is clearly contraindicated in all respects.
Their magnetic residual effect can render the pyschoneural receptor components of the brain more subject to influence psychologically by artificially induced microwave radio frequency fields from transmission stations and TV relay-networks.
The theoretical possibility of psycho telemetric influence (the capability of affecting human behavior by transmitted radio signals at controlled frequencies) has been suggested by Soviet neuropsychological investigations at Uralyera and Novosibirsk (Luria and Perov, 1974a, 1975c, 1976a), which can cause involuntary subliminal psychological energy field compliance to operative microwave apparatus.
FORENSIC RESEARCH DOCUMENT
Prepared By: William P. Kopp
A. R. E. C. Research Operations
TO61-7R10/10-77F05
RELEASE PRIORITY: CLASS I ROO1a
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6760220 - 04/08/07 07:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6760222 - 04/08/07 07:15 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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No offense, but I've looked into this.
That information is wrong, your microwave is safe to cook food with. There is a little evidence stating not to cook food in/on plastic containers; "When food is wrapped in plastic or placed in a plastic container and microwaved, substances used in manufacturing the plastic (plasticizers) may leak into the food. In particular, fatty foods such as meats and cheeses cause a chemical called diethylhexyl adipate to leach out of the plastic." From: http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml
The sun gives off more harmful radiation than a microwave. You should look up microwave myth's, theres a trillion of them. Someone at my work thinks that eating red meat leaves a little undigested food in the bottom of your stomach, and when you're 60 you collect 5 lbs of it. Disgusting, but totally false, red meat is good for you! Just another false myth. If it was true, using that same logic we wouldn't be able to eat corn because the corn kernels are extremely difficult to digest.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6760276 - 04/08/07 08:10 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I havent used a microwave to cook food for like 9 months. Would never go back either. Microwaves destroy the life force in food.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Galvie_Flu]
#6760314 - 04/08/07 09:10 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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/me puts on tinfoil hat
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6760560 - 04/08/07 11:17 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting find, yet I'm hesitant to throw out my own microwave at least until I hear more about it. Besides, you're going to be dead in 50-60 years so it's not like you'll live long enough to endure the effects of microwave exposure.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Psiclone]
#6760612 - 04/08/07 11:39 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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/me puts on tinfoil hat
Got an extra one my brother?
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: PopTop]
#6760696 - 04/08/07 12:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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/me puts on tinfoil hat
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6760777 - 04/08/07 12:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm on the fence about this one, as I cannot find any research that is more recent than the mid-70's. New microwaves are very different from the models they would have studied 30 years ago, and I want to see current data. Do you have any sources for post-1990's research results?
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Veritas]
#6760806 - 04/08/07 12:50 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm on the fence about this one, as I cannot find any research that is more recent than the mid-70's. New microwaves are very different from the models they would have studied 30 years ago, and I want to see current data. Do you have any sources for post-1990's research results?
they are??? I dont think so
they are digital now but a microwave is a microwave
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6760896 - 04/08/07 01:26 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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As a scientist, I can safely say that most of these points are meaningless strings of words disguised as sentences. HOWEVER, using bad science to support a hypothesis does not automatically make the hypothesis false. It's entirely conceivable that microwaves could increase free radicals, for example, or otherwise negatively alter food. I've been meaning to research this but I haven't yet. And don't overlook the fact that food designed for microwave cooking is likely prepared in suboptimal ways -- I doubt frozen burritos use sprouted grains and soaked beans.
The radiation emitted by a microwave (outside) is far, far lower than that of a cell phone. And presumably you're not standing with your ear to the microwave. The potential danger is the cooking process.
Personally, I do believe microwaves serve to further distance us from our food sources. This has spiritual, ecological and economic consequences. There's overlap between the spiritual idea of destroying life-essence and the scientific idea of destroying nutrients, but they're not identical.
To summarize: the OP is gibberish, but microwaves still probably suck 
 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: psyka]
#6760914 - 04/08/07 01:34 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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That information is wrong
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: FollowTheMusic]
#6760923 - 04/08/07 01:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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My internet searches have proven to be circular, as all of the references lead me back to the same articles. I cannot find any of the journal articles referenced in the popular natural health website articles.
One reference from an article, attributed to "Dr. Lita Lee in the Dec. 9, 1989 Lancet" was actually a self-published paper by Lita Lee, Ph.D. in which she refers to an article in the Lancet (which I cannot find online.) *sigh*
Most of these articles seem to be based upon the findings of a 1992 small-scale, non-reviewed, non-published study by two Swiss researchers. I cannot find the text nor methodology of this study & thus cannot review validity.
I suppose this one will have to be "best guess" & up to the individual to decide whether the potential risks outweigh the potential gains.
The most solid evidence would seem to be the fairly recent mainstream recommendation against microwaving breast milk. Apparently it has been shown to destroy the IgA in human milk.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: psyka]
#6760953 - 04/08/07 01:46 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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psyka said:
No offense, but I've looked into this.
That information is wrong, your microwave is safe to cook food with. There is a little evidence stating not to cook food in/on plastic containers; "When food is wrapped in plastic or placed in a plastic container and microwaved, substances used in manufacturing the plastic (plasticizers) may leak into the food. In particular, fatty foods such as meats and cheeses cause a chemical called diethylhexyl adipate to leach out of the plastic." From: http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml
The sun gives off more harmful radiation than a microwave. You should look up microwave myth's, theres a trillion of them. Someone at my work thinks that eating red meat leaves a little undigested food in the bottom of your stomach, and when you're 60 you collect 5 lbs of it. Disgusting, but totally false, red meat is good for you! Just another false myth. If it was true, using that same logic we wouldn't be able to eat corn because the corn kernels are extremely difficult to digest.
umm not sure where your getting your info but i cant help to discount you. RED MEAT IS GOOD FOR YOU? how about all the new studies proving that our colons and digestive systems are not fit for meat consumption and that meat will lead to colon cancer? (along with others)
and of course theres going to be websites like the one you provided link to claiming that microwaves are not harmful. you can probably find links about "the healthy benefits of red meat" as well.
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 Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6761007 - 04/08/07 02:03 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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A long term cumulative loss of vital energies within humans 
This is one of the funnier paranoid non-science articles I've seen in a while!
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6761160 - 04/08/07 02:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Forum error caused a clone post??
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: LightShedder]
#6761209 - 04/08/07 03:08 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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psyka said:
No offense, but I've looked into this.
That information is wrong, your microwave is safe to cook food with. There is a little evidence stating not to cook food in/on plastic containers; "When food is wrapped in plastic or placed in a plastic container and microwaved, substances used in manufacturing the plastic (plasticizers) may leak into the food. In particular, fatty foods such as meats and cheeses cause a chemical called diethylhexyl adipate to leach out of the plastic." From: http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml
The sun gives off more harmful radiation than a microwave. You should look up microwave myth's, theres a trillion of them. Someone at my work thinks that eating red meat leaves a little undigested food in the bottom of your stomach, and when you're 60 you collect 5 lbs of it. Disgusting, but totally false, red meat is good for you! Just another false myth. If it was true, using that same logic we wouldn't be able to eat corn because the corn kernels are extremely difficult to digest.
umm not sure where your getting your info but i cant help to discount you. RED MEAT IS GOOD FOR YOU? how about all the new studies proving that our colons and digestive systems are not fit for meat consumption and that meat will lead to colon cancer? (along with others)
and of course theres going to be websites like the one you provided link to claiming that microwaves are not harmful. you can probably find links about "the healthy benefits of red meat" as well.
Were these studies done in California. It is a well known fact that even living causes cancer in California.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6761254 - 04/08/07 03:23 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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i haven't tossed my microwave oven because other members of my household choose to cook with it.
but i don't choose to use one. i have no problem taking the extra time to cook my food on the stove or in the conventional oven.
i feel better doing it and my meals taste better because of it. 
there is a lot of mis/disinformation concerning the human effects of microwaves, therefore i think it's a good idea to avoid them as much as possible and instead incorporate that which you know works and keeps you healthy. 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: AlteredAgain]
#6762362 - 04/08/07 08:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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microwaves are just crappy. i love preparing fresh food, and i'd cook myself some pasta and homemade sauce over reheated food from last night any day.
I usually eat it cold as a snack rather than reheating.
the point is, microwaves are for lazies. press some buttons, put in the food, and wait. Its too easy to get healthy. Plus nothing is more fun for me than making a kickass meal in a skillet. So oven, toaster oven, skillet, or pot.
Im not saying i never use the microwave because i do when im tired and i dont feel like cooking at the time. but i try to avoid it anyhoo. 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6762689 - 04/08/07 10:20 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I heard that after doing extensive research they were banned in Russia. I have gone back and fourth on it but my intuition says bad for you. I'm listening these days.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Icelander]
#6762745 - 04/08/07 10:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've heard this before. Even if this isn't true though, I still won't use microwaves. The food doesn't taste as good.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: m1ndriot]
#6766237 - 04/09/07 05:54 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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/me puts on tinfoil hat
Got an extra one my brother?
Are you guys crazy? Get anywhere near a microwave with that thing on and your head will explode!
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6766481 - 04/09/07 06:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you find any evidence to support any of these assertions on PubMed?
I could write an equally authoritative sounding list of reasons why drinking water iss bad for you.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: MetaShroom]
#6766862 - 04/09/07 08:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hydrogen Hydroxide CAN kill you in large amounts. 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6768240 - 04/10/07 02:08 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I see a few people saying microwaved food doesn't taste as good as food prepared the regular ways. If taste is an indicator of nutritional content of food, then that alone should be reason enough to not use one.
Most products designed with microwave users in mind are full of salt, sugar and artificial flavors, so degredation of taste is not really an issue as they already taste like industrial waste.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Clean]
#6768355 - 04/10/07 02:49 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What's it going to do, me kill me faster. Then, my other heath issues?
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Brainiac]
#6768967 - 04/10/07 09:59 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you ask a microwave user why they use one, they will probably say:
"I have no time to cook" kinda ironic really, since they are actually inputing a specified time into the machine.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Galvie_Flu]
#6771428 - 04/10/07 08:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.rense.com/general70/microwaved.htm
here is a short list of microwave objections:
meat.... oh its not cooked enough. put it in the microwave then.
baked potatoes from the microwave. they taste lousy
any sort of prepackaged microwave food, especially the ones that claim they are healthy on the box... terrible tastes.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#6774053 - 04/11/07 09:10 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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One reason not to throw out my microwave...
1) In my home, if it doesn't get cooked in the microwave, it doesn't get cooked...
Looking at the reasons listed...
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1). Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term - permanent - brain damage by "shorting out" electrical impulses in the brain [de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain tissue].
I demagnetized my brain long ago, so I am not worried about this. However, I do worry about people that use headphones that have not demagnetized their brains. Headphones have little magnets in them, and these magnets can change the polarity of brain tissue in magnetized brains causing massive loss of common sense.
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2). The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food.
Funny that we know that the body cannot break down unknown by-products. I wonder how we studied these unknown by-products without knowing about them first. For me, I choose only to worry about known by-products that my body cannot break down. I simply do not have the time or energy to worry about all the possible unknown by-products that my body might not be able to cope with.
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3). Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by continually eating microwaved foods.
I smoke cannabis from time to time, so my hormone production is shot to hell anyway. I also wear a lead jockstrap while eating microwaved food, just in case, but I don't really think it helps.
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4). The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual [long term, permanent] within the human body.
Are these the unknown by products? Funny how much we know about unknown byproducts.
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5). Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down.
Yep... cooking food tends to alter the chemical structure of the food being cooked. Take an egg for example; there is a lot of change between a raw egg and a cooked egg. Of course, since microwaved food looses even more minerals, vitamins, and nutrients, I just eat twice as much.
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6). The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when cooked in microwave ovens.
Only after 1995. Before 1995, by definition, minerals were non-organic, thus there was nothing organic from which to create free radicals. The definition of a mineral was changed in 1995 to "an element or chemical compound that is normally crystalline and that has been formed as a result of geological processes" allowing organic (contains carbon) minerals to be defined. I use an old microwave, from before 1995, so I am safe here.
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7). Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer in America.
This is easily avoided by eating foods that have insane shelf lives from all the added preservatives. The preservatives in food preserve the normal cell structure in the stomach and intestines, thus avoiding the danger of cancer caused by microwaved food.
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8). The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to increase in human blood.
Again, only microwave food that is full of preservatives to avoid blood cancer.
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9). Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies through lymph gland and blood serum alterations.
Again, only microwave food that is full of preservatives to avoid immune system problems.
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10). Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence.
I drank a lot of alcohol in college to kill off all the weak brain cells. The few brain cells I left are the stronger ones and they can easily stand up to anything that microwaved food can dish out.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Seuss]
#6774217 - 04/11/07 10:46 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hahaha..that was a great post, Seuss.
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that was a great post, Seuss.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Veritas]
#6774355 - 04/11/07 11:49 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Veritas said:Most of these articles seem to be based upon the findings of a 1992 small-scale, non-reviewed, non-published study by two Swiss researchers.
No doubt financed by an evil Swiss toaster oven company... 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#6774397 - 04/11/07 12:00 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Veritas said:Most of these articles seem to be based upon the findings of a 1992 small-scale, non-reviewed, non-published study by two Swiss researchers.
No doubt financed by an evil Swiss toaster oven company...
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#6781429 - 04/13/07 01:52 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know if microwaves harm food or not. I do know that alot of the foods we prepare in a microwave our more instant foods. Microwave pizzas, burritos, etc., are unhealthy, even if you cook them in an oven.
If I eat canned food, I tend to use the microwave. No reason to dirty a pan for canned spinch. If I'm using fresh veggies, I tend to cook on the stove. Fresh veggies are definitely healthier than the canned variety - though they've gotten expensive, and they're pretty limp most of the time, so I'm growing my own this year.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: LightShedder]
#7278021 - 08/09/07 03:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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umm not sure where your getting your info but i cant help to discount you. RED MEAT IS GOOD FOR YOU? how about all the new studies proving that our colons and digestive systems are not fit for meat consumption and that meat will lead to colon cancer? (along with others)
and of course theres going to be websites like the one you provided link to claiming that microwaves are not harmful. you can probably find links about "the healthy benefits of red meat" as well.
man didn't evolve to the top to eat fucking lettuce and soybeans. man is meant to enjoy all the food of this world. animals eat animals, get over it! however, i still eat vegetarian because i hate america's food industry. red meat isn't the healthiest thing to eat, but it has been a staple in mans diet for thousands of years, providing us with protein and fat to survive. and meat is delicious. nuff sed.
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 Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Veritas]
#7278074 - 08/09/07 04:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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My internet searches have proven to be circular, as all of the references lead me back to the same articles. I cannot find any of the journal articles referenced in the popular natural health website articles.
One reference from an article, attributed to "Dr. Lita Lee in the Dec. 9, 1989 Lancet" was actually a self-published paper by Lita Lee, Ph.D. in which she refers to an article in the Lancet (which I cannot find online.) *sigh*
In the literature that claims that microwaved food is depleted in nutrients and/or is full of carcinogenic chemicals, two studies are continually quoted. The first is from the December 9, 1989 issue of Lancet, while the second is that of Hertel and Blanc in Switzerland.
The Lancet study, Aminoacid Isomerisation and Microwave Exposure, is not a formal peer-reviewed article, but is just a short letter to the editor. The authors microwaved milk, and found that one of the proteins changed shape from L-proline to D-proline. This was a worry because D-proline, in large concentrations, is toxic to the kidney and liver. This letter was followed-up by health authorities around the world. The overall finding was that this was not relevant to home heating of milk, because the scientists had exposed the milk to much greater levels of microwaves than are used in the home.
The second study looked at levels of various chemicals and cells in the blood of volunteers who ate microwaved food. The study was published in a certain Franz Weber's magazine, modestly called Journal Franz Weber (Issue 19, January-March 1992), which is definitely not a peer-reviewed journal. If it had been, it might have noticed that there were only eight volunteers - which is such a small number, that it's impossible to get any statistically significant results. Furthermore, none of the blood analysis results fell out of the normal range of variation. Indeed, the volunteers, who all ate macrobiotic food, came to the study with a low-grade anaemia. Regardless of this, the study came to the conclusion that "...microwave ovens are more harmful than the Dachau gas chambers..." and "...it is certain that you will die from cancer...".
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Diploid]
#7278154 - 08/09/07 04:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid, I'm afraid that you have too much free time. 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#7280164 - 08/10/07 03:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice list of bullshit
do you really think something that does all of that wouldn't be banned yet?
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Az0th]
#7280175 - 08/10/07 03:23 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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First, it is imperative to understand that the word "radiation" applies to different things. One kind is ionizing radiation or particle radiation, which can (for example) damage organic molecules by impacting them and imparting energy. Another is nonionizing wave radiation, like microwaves, which cannot. It is common for the terms to be crossed, so that people get the impression a microwave oven might make food "radioactive", which is literally impossible no matter how much microwave energy is used. Similarly, microwave radiation could not cause cancer in the same way that uranium could. The word "radiation" refers to the fact that energy can radiate, and not to the different nature and effects of different kinds of energy.
The health effects of microwaves are highly controversial. A great number of studies have been undertaken in the last two decades, some concluding that microwaves pose a hazard to health, and others concluding they are safe. It is understood that microwave radiation of a level that causes heating of living tissue is hazardous (due to the possibility of overheating and burns) and most countries have standards limiting exposure, such as the Federal Communications Commission RF safety regulations. Still at issue is whether lower levels of microwave energy have bioeffects.
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GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: aDoS]
#7280581 - 08/10/07 09:51 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: aDoS]
#7280671 - 08/10/07 10:50 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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official approval is no precursor for safety.
what serves or damages our wellbeing, we must determine ourselves.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7281686 - 08/10/07 04:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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i stopped using a MW over two years ago now.
aDos: teflon cookware has been linked to cancer. tap water is toxic. fluoride is NOT beneficial for your teeth. cigarettes certainly will harm your health. most prescription drugs do more harm than good.
dont think because it is still in circulation that it must be safe.
microwaves are most certainly not good for humans, for anything. the only thing it is good for to my knowledge is sanitizing sponges. do you really trust something the nazis invented and the russians deemed unsafe and banned?
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#7282589 - 08/10/07 09:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Microwaves are an example of technology being a step backward for mankind.
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 Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Galvie_Flu]
#7282652 - 08/10/07 09:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Even though no one here so far has been able to point to a single verifiable harm that comes from microwave ovens other than that the food doesn't taste as good. 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Diploid]
#7282767 - 08/10/07 10:19 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Research Dr. Hans Ulrich Hertel. He was the first scientist to conceive and carry out a quality clinical study on the effects microwaved nutrients have on the blood and physiology of the human body.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7282872 - 08/10/07 10:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Research Dr. Hans Ulrich Hertel. He was the first scientist to conceive and carry out a quality clinical study
Quality clinical study? With only 8 test volunteers? You're joking right? Either that or you haven't been paying attention.
I already covered this "study" ^^^ up there. But here is the relevant part of my post again:
The second study (Hertel's) looked at levels of various chemicals and cells in the blood of volunteers who ate microwaved food. The study was published in a certain Franz Weber's magazine, modestly called Journal Franz Weber (Issue 19, January-March 1992), which is definitely not a peer-reviewed journal. If it had been, it might have noticed that there were only eight volunteers - which is such a small number, that it's impossible to get any statistically significant results. Furthermore, none of the blood analysis results fell out of the normal range of variation. Indeed, the volunteers, who all ate macrobiotic food, came to the study with a low-grade anaemia. Regardless of this, the study came to the conclusion that "...microwave ovens are more harmful than the Dachau gas chambers..." and "...it is certain that you will die from cancer...".
Translation: It was not a study. It was an embarrassment of meaningless nonsense and was not peer-reviewed because if it had been, it would have been refuted during the review and never published.
Yet you believe it without applying the tiniest bit of critical thinking and without bothering to verify it because it happens to agree with your paranoid pre-conclusion.
Instead of looking for the truth, whatever it may be, you've simply made up your mind that microwave ovens are harmful and to hell with the truth or any evidence that contradicts that.
That's sad.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Diploid]
#7282926 - 08/10/07 11:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have yet to see evidence that microwaved food is harmless..
And when it comes to truth, it all boils right down to how you and I choose to live and how we feel as a result of our choices.
So, bon appetite. 
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7282963 - 08/10/07 11:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have yet to see evidence that microwaved food is harmless
I've eaten microwaved food for 40-something years. I'm healthy as a horse. There are millions of other healthy people who have also eaten microwaved food their entire lives. That's a lot of evidence in favor of microwave ovens.
Yet you rely on 8 volunteers who were already anemic when they entered a non-peer reviewed study that used no blinding protocols or experimental controls and was published in some guy named Franz's magazine instead of a science or medical journal to make your determination that microwave ovens are harmful.
And you want your pre-conclusion to be true so much that you've even managed to dupe yourself into believing that a biased editorial rant in some guy's magazine is "a quality clinical study on the effects microwaved nutrients have on the blood and physiology of the human body".
That's a lot like how some people decide that marijuana is as harmful as heroin. Nevermind that there's no evidence to support this. Same mentality.
If you chose not to eat microwaved food, well, alright then. But don't kid yourself that you've made a sound decision based on the actual available evidence instead of blind dogma.
By the way, REAL studies are available that show carcinogenic substances in the yummy charred and browned parts of food cooked on a barbeque, in a frying pan, or in a conventional oven.
Do you eat barbecued, fried, or conventional oven cooked food? Because if you do, the irony is really kinda funny.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Diploid]
#7283330 - 08/11/07 01:42 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said:
Do you eat barbecued, fried, or conventional oven cooked food? Because if you do, the irony is really kinda funny.
Except for the occasional Sunday BBQ, no. I eat my foods raw or boiled.
Content with your truth?
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 Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7283375 - 08/11/07 01:56 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Content with your truth?
It's not my truth. It's just a lack of evidence incriminating microwave ovens.
There IS evidence that baby formula and frozen blood for use in transfusions should not be heated in a microwave oven because they produce hot spots which is something you don't want in baby formula or transfusion blood. Other than that, the evidence gathered over decades of use suggest they're perfectly safe and it makes no sense to invent a hazard where none is evidenced.
You may not agree, but I think it's better to make decisions based on what is known rather than what is guessed at or made up. Making decisions based on non-existing or made up evidence is why we have a drug war at home and a WMD war in Iraq.
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: Diploid]
#7283421 - 08/11/07 02:07 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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If we were cooking food with gamma rays or something, I could understand the concern. I mean, shit, microwaves are safer to living tissue than ultraviolet light!
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Re: 10 reasons to throw out your microwave [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#7284331 - 08/11/07 01:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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MushmanTheManic said:
If we were cooking food with gamma rays or something, I could understand the concern. I mean, shit, microwaves are safer to living tissue than ultraviolet light!
Let's start a thread called "10 reasons to throw out your black light, you dirty hippie"
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