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 strangladesh
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#6670371 - 03/14/07 10:34 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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What are some other POTENT cacti i might be able to get my hands on other then Pedro/torches/peyote
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ariocarpus, coryphantha, astrophytum, pachycereus, t. terscheckii, t.pallarensis, aztekium just to name a few. they definetly have there effects some pleasent some not so pleasent. as far as potency some you need more some you need less.
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durban_poison
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mammillaria also. a few of these i wouldnt try a few i would.
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strangladesh
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ill look a few of those up on good old ebay and see what i can find...
What arocarpus's are active...
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If you put those in order what would that order be...by alkaloid content....
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Could you go a little more in depth as im searching and researching these I cant tell which var. or subspecies has mescaline or is active...
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durban_poison
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coryphantha macromeris i would say you need twice as much per weight as t.pachnoi, maybe a little less. astrophytums i havent tried nor do i find any intrest to until someone else does first with positive comments(no dosage recommendations). mammillaria heyderii im really looking foward to trying(ive seen comments on dosage but i would have to look it up). ariocarpus fissuaratus i will try soon about the same dosage as lophophora but i hear you should be careful with it. other ariocarpus spieces are active but i hear they can be unpleasent as well. aztekium riterii i wouldnt try because it takes so long to grow even grafted. i also can find info on its effects just its alkaloids. all of these cacti have been used in the past and surly in the future. these cacti just arent practicle for consumption and some could be dangerous. these are for collecters rather the users. if your going to consume use t. pachnoi, t. macrogonus, and t. peruvianus.
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some of those cacti listed may very well grow even slower than peyote! some are also quite rare. if you want to ingest trichs and lophs are your best bet. trichs will grow fast and have known good effects. like said some of those are said to be not so pleasant. and the growing time can be incredibly slow.
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also it is almost imposable to tell you which san pedro or torch has higher potency
there is an ebay member that has nice cacti " zircon 6" they look nice but the potency is shit..
i have found that some vendors have test papers and good pedro /torch.
they come from different places and most are different..
i have 5-6 different family's of pedro and a few different family's of torch.
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Re: cacti [Re: royer]
#6671701 - 03/15/07 08:56 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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one more reason to grow peyote instead, or as well as.
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yah im starting to become a collector...but i want high alkaloid content just in case....
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Quote:
strangladesh said:
yah im starting to become a collector...but i want high alkaloid content just in case....
there is no way to tell unless you go by word of mouth with vendors or some how get test results.
i just buy every cacti i like :-)
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Re: cacti [Re: royer]
#6676677 - 03/16/07 02:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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royer...i dont have room for every cactus i like...
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durban_poison
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theres always room 
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Quote:
durban_poison said:
theres always room
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Re: cacti [Re: Nalim]
#6680614 - 03/17/07 05:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yah mabey if i didn't live in michigan, out door shit out of the question right know....
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kadakuda
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well tehy have not been tested a whole lot. so unfortunatly the best way is to test it (eat it) yourself and if its good take as many cuttings as you can. or trust other people who say they are good.
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strangladesh
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Ok i wanna bring this subject back as i am going to be trying a bishops cap...and i will be buying others to help determine potency...
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Teotzlcoatl
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Bishops cap is supposed to have Datura-like effects from what I've heard...but if you eat it, and send me money for shipping, I'll give you a new one for being a brave adventurous soul...
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do u collect cacti just to give them away, in some sort of odd acceptance routine?
have heard u offer up most of your specimens in one place or another... 
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