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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6580045 - 02/18/07 01:17 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

WTF you can lock a thread in the otd?


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6580047 - 02/18/07 01:18 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
You haven't even demonstrated how using the term "nigger" constitutes vocal racism, either. Please elaborate on what vocal racism is and your methods of determining this before we can futher discuss banning its usage.

What, LF, is vocal racism?




It's the thing that is mentioned in the OTD disclaimer. Since you are a mod here, you should therefore be already familiar with what it is.

Maybe you should make a thread and ask in the mod forum.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580053 - 02/18/07 01:20 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:


I will of course be happy to abide by the no racism on the Shroomery rule when it is implimented.






It's never going to happen, nigger.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6580056 - 02/18/07 01:22 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Post reported.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580072 - 02/18/07 01:27 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

CK ratings.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580077 - 02/18/07 01:30 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

You're just mad because nobody in OTD can see your meth monkey ass anymore. Just take your untold riches(ha) and leave this place already.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6580101 - 02/18/07 01:36 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Putting that word in my ratings does not offend me personally as I am not black.

Posting racism in public forums however will offend black posters. I want black posters to stay here as well as white ones.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580103 - 02/18/07 01:37 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:
It's the thing that is mentioned in the OTD disclaimer. Since you are a mod here, you should therefore be already familiar with what it is.

Maybe you should make a thread and ask in the mod forum.




No, that's not an acceptable definition of vocal racism. You are proposing that we do not permit vocal racism on this website, so I'm certain that you have an understanding of what vocal racism is beyond "the thing that is mentioned in the OTD disclaimer".

Now, tell me, LF, what constitutes vocal racism? What is vocal racism?


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6580112 - 02/18/07 01:40 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Why not just ban LF every time he says something racist, that'll suit him and us. It's a win/win situation.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580114 - 02/18/07 01:41 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:
It's time we face the fact that racism isn't cool, and it isn't cool in conversations either. The rest of the world has rejected racism, and we should catch up with them, it's the 21st century.

Therefore, I'm requesting that the "vocal racism" aspect of OTD to be removed from the list of allowable OTD behaviors.

We just plain don't need racism anywhere on the site. Wouldn't you agree?




OTD is supposed to be a free speech zone. If you don't like it you can go to the Pub (when you're unbanned). Your blatant attempt to change things to fit your idea what what is right and wrong is disgusting.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580124 - 02/18/07 01:43 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:
And they have also provided this forum for feedback.




No doubt, but this point is irrelevant to the point that I was making. Let us review your statement once more:

Quote:


This is afterall a private site and we are guests, and so racist speech should be disallowed just like it would be if you were visiting someone else's house and sitting in their living room.




Your line of reasoning for why vocal racism should not be permitted is because this is a private website and we are guests. "This is _, so therefore _ should be _". That is what you stated, which is what I called into question. The fact that there is a forum with which one can post feedback and concerns within has nothing to do with this line of reasoning or my questioning of it.

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Please don't pretend this has never been a hotly debated issue any time in in the past. I was here when OTD was closed down completely. I believe the incorrect choice was ultimately made, this racism issue always re-surfaces, racism is not a part of freedom, and this policy should be re-visited.




Certainly, let us review it once more. A suitable course of action would be for you to give us an adequate definition of what vocal racism is with which a subsequent debate can operate by. :wink:


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Redstorm]
    #6580125 - 02/18/07 01:43 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

He's only doing this to troll drama, as a quick search of his posts and the word nigger will show.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Redstorm]
    #6580132 - 02/18/07 01:47 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Fight the machine !!  :gethigh:  :gethigh:  :gethigh:  :bongload:  :bongload:


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580194 - 02/18/07 02:15 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'm quite sure black people use the word nigger more often than white people do. And you know what, if you're cool with black people, you can use the word too, because it doesn't offend them.

The word implies brotherhood. It is only when racists use the term that black people (generally speaking, of course) get offended. I am willing to bet most people who use the term nigger are not racist.

OTD is a place to get shit off your chest because life demands it and we can't always yell at the top of our lungs or punch through a wall. So we do silly, stupid, harmless things like call each other nigger in OTD.

Or how about we just ask Moe Howard, the most famous nigger of all OTD, whether the use of the word nigger offends him. He'll probably say, "Hell naw, cracka," and that'll be the end of it.

LF, I have honestly never had anything against you, and I have never given a flying fuck whether all or none of OTD dislikes you, but your search for drama, popularity and politics thinly masked as a crusade against freedom of speech, oops, i mean equality causes me to type this. I still don't really have anything against you, but your idea is at best, silly, and at worst, shit mixed with a stick.

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:
Putting that word in my ratings does not offend me personally as I am not black.

Posting racism in public forums however will offend black posters. I want black posters to stay here as well as white ones.




p.s. So you are the authority on what will offend black people? Are you black??
"Yes, massa LightningFractal, I am offended, massa." Please.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: dickdeadly]
    #6580391 - 02/18/07 04:27 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

No, the word you have in minda is "nigga", or one of its many derivatives such as "niggeh, niggi, nyukka" so on and so forth.


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He may in fact, be a literal bum, only able to make himself known to us here by occasionally stopping into dark internet cafes to make a few quick, frantic posts before the owners force him to leave because of the stench of rotting vegetables and desperation wafting forth from his pores.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580401 - 02/18/07 04:34 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Trying to change???  What since February 7th?? Or the 12th??
Boy it's been a long hard road for you LF :rofl:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6442455#6442455
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6558966#6558966


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6580420 - 02/18/07 05:01 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

fucken bored


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: budmanman]
    #6580427 - 02/18/07 05:14 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

:crankey: FUCKING NARC!!!!


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: budmanman]
    #6580429 - 02/18/07 05:15 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a fucking narc




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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580991 - 02/18/07 12:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

The problem here is that LF is saying that the language in OTD is HATE SPEECH.


Hate speech is a term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action.

What is being said in OTD is tongue-in-cheek, or at the very worst it is trolling for a reaction.

If someone came into OTD spouting REAL hate speech they would be berated like any other moron.


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