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OfflineMiRrOr
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my girlfriend saw an angel at church...
    #6487604 - 01/23/07 12:12 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

and i believe every word out of her mouth...


she was at church, and she says she saw 2 angels, one green and one purple, flying by the altar, and no one around could see them but her...then, angel dust (no, not PCP) was shimmering all over her jeans out of nowhere, and her friends did in fact see the angel dust on her!!


hm, so, at 1st it may seem hard to believe, especially for those aetheists out there....but hey, who knows right???


if i claim (and i do) that i've seen my face morphing and patterns of geometric symmetry while under the influence of mushrooms, then who am i or anyone to say what another person saw???



dont bash her beliefs....i'm posting this just to see if anyone here has any similar experiences/knows someone who has?


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6487845 - 01/23/07 12:57 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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and i believe every word out of her mouth...



I don't.

Ain't no such thing as green angels. No way, no how.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Viveka]
    #6488159 - 01/23/07 02:07 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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and i believe every word out of her mouth...



I don't.

Ain't no such thing as green angels. No way, no how.




yeah... everyone knows green angels dont exist.... but purple angels do.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Viveka]
    #6488185 - 01/23/07 02:18 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Ain't no such thing as green angels. No way, no how.





and you know this how??? do you have proof of this?


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6488229 - 01/23/07 02:30 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Im going to stop you right there.... so we dont have another 20 posts about "you prove it"... "no, you prove it".....

(we should put this as a rule in this forum)

you cannot disprove a negative. You can only rule it out in the face of gross probability. It is up to the person claiming a positive to give proof, not to sit there and say "prove that it isn't so".

In conclusion, this thread belongs in MRP.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6488305 - 01/23/07 02:52 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
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Viveka said:
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and i believe every word out of her mouth...



I don't.

Ain't no such thing as green angels. No way, no how.




yeah... everyone knows green angels dont exist.... but purple angels do.




Incorrect. It is green angels that exist, not purple.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Basilides]
    #6488308 - 01/23/07 02:54 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

maybe they have that dual toned paint that was all the rage for a month back in 2002, that changes color.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6488353 - 01/23/07 03:08 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

thats badass and is possible people have seen crazier shit


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: thedudenj]
    #6488675 - 01/23/07 07:28 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

To experience a miraculous occurance is something to treasure.
I hate that these occurances are used to prove faith in something only very vaguely related.
instead the psyche should be marvelled at and studied and cared for.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #6488827 - 01/23/07 10:18 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
To experience a miraculous occurance is something to treasure.
I hate that these occurances are used to prove faith in something only very vaguely related.
instead the psyche should be marvelled at and studied and cared for.




Exactly. Maybe the angels were there trying to "break down" the church. Although I believe in a higher spiritual power, I do not believe that one needs to attend a church or associate with a religion in order to find peace with that higher power. Maybe the reason she saw them, if it's true, is because her mind had been expanded enough to understand and comprehend the power of seeing this. I also don't discount ghost or alien stories either, because there seems to be more proof supporting it than the govt saying, "They don't exist." I believe that we have had our minds shut off to the spiritual realm by religion itself. If we as a people learned that we have a full access ticket (through some cool plants) to the spiritual realm, organized religion and govt would crumble to the ground. For those people whose families have been in power for a VERY long time, this is a very real threat and will do anything (including making shit illegal) to keep people from learning the truth. Why do you think organized religion is so quick to snatch up these stories and go running with them as "proof"?

This is all IMO.

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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #6489282 - 01/23/07 01:57 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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To experience a miraculous occurance is something to treasure.
I hate that these occurances are used to prove faith in something only very vaguely related.
instead the psyche should be marvelled at and studied and cared for.





i agree...


and in response to those making fun, that's fine, it's your right to i suppose...

but, as i said above, who are you to say what she did or did not experience??

why is it so much more acceptable to you then when people like me and on this board tell you they saw the carpets and ceilings move, talked to entities and spirits, and lost their ego on shrooms??

why is it just because mushrooms is involved does it make it more acceptable and believable what the eyes saw??


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: trippindad82]
    #6489291 - 01/23/07 02:01 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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trippindad82 said:
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redgreenvines said:
To experience a miraculous occurance is something to treasure.
I hate that these occurances are used to prove faith in something only very vaguely related.
instead the psyche should be marvelled at and studied and cared for.





This is all IMO.



-Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull)




well, in that case, i value your opion very much so because you hit the nail on the head my friend


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6489336 - 01/23/07 02:19 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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why is it so much more acceptable to you then when people like me and on this board tell you they saw the carpets and ceilings move, talked to entities and spirits, and lost their ego on shrooms??




:rofl:
Because it's a 'hallucinogen' man, that is what they do.  Whereas seeing angels while sober would logically imply a similar idea, i.e insanity.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: TheCow]
    #6489349 - 01/23/07 02:33 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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MiRrOr said:
why is it so much more acceptable to you then when people like me and on this board tell you they saw the carpets and ceilings move, talked to entities and spirits, and lost their ego on shrooms??




:rofl:
Because it's a 'hallucinogen' man, that is what they do.  Whereas seeing angels while sober would logically imply a similar idea, i.e insanity.





yea, like you've never felt "insane" while tripping your balls off right?


also, keep in mind, in terms of her experience, perhaps she had a rush of serotonin or dmt release in her brain?  you do realize these chemicals are in the human brain dontcha?


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6489352 - 01/23/07 02:36 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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perhaps she had a rush of serotonin or dmt release in her brain? you do realize these chemicals are in the human brain dontcha?




So maybe she hallucinated... which means 'angels do not exist'.

I'm not bashing anyone's faith, but belief in anything like floating babies with wings is foolish.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6489363 - 01/23/07 02:44 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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perhaps she had a rush of serotonin or dmt release in her brain? you do realize these chemicals are in the human brain dontcha?




So maybe she hallucinated... which means 'angels do not exist'.

I'm not bashing anyone's faith, but belief in anything like floating babies with wings is foolish.




I don't believe anyone said this is what they saw. I believe all that was said was she saw two angels, and the color of them. NOTHING ELSE. They could have been reflections of skeletor, or they could have been some naked wrinkly old men.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6489379 - 01/23/07 02:55 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

You hit right on the mark, it was a hallucination, and we can agree they do occur.

In my experience the type of hallucination you have can have something to do with the environment, so seeing angles at a church makes perfect sense to me

I've hallucinated kids playing at an empty gym. Kids play at gyms, I hallucinated it. Nothing astonishing about that connection.

Also the nature of hallucinations is still somewhat unknown, meaning they can come in auditory form, come sometimes without the use of psychedelics, and even able to talk and communicate, also wield certain powers in certain cases, but that might be too much for some people to believe in this forum, so I won't go their too much.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: trippindad82]
    #6489380 - 01/23/07 02:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry... I should have said:

I'm not bashing anyone's faith, but belief in anything like you described is foolish.

How silly of me to substitute something much more silly. :rolleyes:


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6489577 - 01/23/07 03:57 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry... I should have said:

I'm not bashing anyone's faith, but belief in anything like you described is foolish.

How silly of me to substitute something much more silly. :rolleyes:





is communicating with entities and having PROFOUND SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES on mushrooms silly as well??


just a sidenote, from my own experiences on shrooms, the "hallucinations" i see on the floor and walls and such seem "real" to me...

how can we differentiate what is "real" and a "hallucination"??

as i stated above, while tripping, me and 2 of my friends watched each other morph and age in the mirror together....how do i know that our faces dont ALWAYS look like that??  it's amazing how much "reality" can change just by dilating your pupils just a tad...

everytime i trip, i see this sort of transparent pattern emerge on the ground, and it's so beauitiful and detailed....my point is, as i trip, the realization comes to me that THIS PATTERN IS ALWAYS THERE, I JUST CANT SEE IT UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS...

if i told people of faith, churchgoers, about this pattern and my face morphing, they would call me nuts as well...but just as her experience may seem a bit unfathomable, i suppose so is mine....yet, i know what i saw, and i'm sure so is she...


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6489603 - 01/23/07 04:04 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

You are missing a basic point of contention here...

Having hallucinations (mild or vivid) is REAL. We agree on this.

The things you see in those hallucinations (angels and such) are NOT REAL.

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is communicating with entities and having PROFOUND SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES on mushrooms silly as well??





No, not at all. As long as you realize you were talking to yourself. I find the belief in "angels" and "spirits" to be silly, not the act of inducing visions with shrooms. The point being at the end of the day, those visions are reflections of you and the world created in your brain.

To sum up...

Hallucinating is not silly. Believing that those hallucinations are somehow REAL is silly.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6489876 - 01/23/07 05:48 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Bingo.

Any such phenomenon is generated by the psyche. Does that make it less real? In an empirical sense, probably. From a different perspective, not at all.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Viveka]
    #6490089 - 01/23/07 07:11 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

so then your totally debunking all native american and such religions using entheos if you say spirits dont exist there was a time when people didnt need drugs to tap into that


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6490151 - 01/23/07 07:35 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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You are missing a basic point of contention here...

Having hallucinations (mild or vivid) is REAL. We agree on this.

The things you see in those hallucinations (angels and such) are NOT REAL.

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is communicating with entities and having PROFOUND SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES on mushrooms silly as well??





No, not at all. As long as you realize you were talking to yourself. I find the belief in "angels" and "spirits" to be silly, not the act of inducing visions with shrooms. The point being at the end of the day, those visions are reflections of you and the world created in your brain.

To sum up...

Hallucinating is not silly. Believing that those hallucinations are somehow REAL is silly.




To ask whether something like this is "real" or not is, I think, missing the point. They are archetypal, so they are in a sense "more real than real".


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Revelation]
    #6490304 - 01/23/07 08:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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To ask whether something like this is "real" or not is, I think, missing the point. They are archetypal, so they are in a sense "more real than real".



Thank you! Also, for the record, the word "belief" or any of it's derivatives has absolutely no place in this thread.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: thedudenj]
    #6490411 - 01/23/07 09:19 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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so then your totally debunking all native american and such religions using entheos if you say spirits dont exist there was a time when people didnt need drugs to tap into that




Uh... peyote?

Drugs and mysticisim go back further than anything. One is almost knocked over by the simplicity of it all. The goofy shit YOU see is from your head... The same stuff mystics and shaman saw 1,000s of years ago. Just reflections of YOUR mind... They turned it into 'religion' and made people believe it was real.

However, everything they think they saw never existed. Even the most vivid vision exists only insomuch as a memory... just some electic impulses buzzing around in that 5 pound lump of shit between your ears. Nothing you see while hallucinating can hurt you, can it? If you BELIEVE it can, maybe you'll think it can, but it REALLY can't.

And to the dude, drugs or no drugs, people in desperate times see whatever they want... The brain is very, VERY powerful. Powerful enough to make millions of people believe in, and give their LIFE to, a magic man living in the sky. Millions before them believed in something different, and millions more will fall for something 100's of years from now.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6490554 - 01/23/07 09:54 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure it happened. Religious experiences exist in religions that don't involve psychedelics (although normally induced by sleep deprivation or self-mortification), and this was an example of that. I've had a feeling of total connection with everything while not under the influence of any chemicals, this is just an experience conforming to a particular religion's teachings. Whether the angels were "really" there is ridiculous to argue- a lot of what we consider to be reality exists only in the eye of the beholder, and it's what we do with those experiences rather than whether they can be considered "real" that matters.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Pinhead]
    #6491033 - 01/24/07 12:38 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

no no things from the spirit world can hurt you and thats why this world is fcked thier vengance


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6501657 - 01/27/07 09:19 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I know someone who had a similar experience a few weeks ago. It is also a female, who goes to church and uses herb and opium. I think earlier in the day she had taken opium. But anyway, she was lying in bed, eyes closed when she had this hallucination. There were two characters in it, they were like maybe 10 feet tall, males , with defined muscles. They talked to her and then danced with her. Then the visuals ended and a voice told her that one of them was an angel who visted her every day and by looking in her eyes can tell everything she does. Its a true story. I tend to believe that hallucinations are real, like she truly talked to angels, but i am still relatitively young (24) and try to be rational about these experiences.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Viveka]
    #6501764 - 01/27/07 10:53 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Oddity's in ones vision can be interpreted in many ways, in a church setting an angel wouldn't be uncommon.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: barfightlard]
    #6503091 - 01/27/07 10:13 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

She should see a psychiatrist, seriously. If she is really seeing hallucinations when not on any drugs she could be schiztophrenic. You don't want her seeing 'angels' while she's driving and possible kill herself or others.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: House]
    #6503251 - 01/27/07 11:01 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone's schizophrenic to some degree.  The trick is how well you deal with it! :nut:


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: SoY]
    #6504875 - 01/28/07 03:06 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

it was probably an elaborate hoax the church, but hey if it gets people to believe than im all for it.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: trent]
    #6505172 - 01/28/07 04:34 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

We all know they could afford a secret holographic technology.

Not sure why a superior being would be in the presence of a church.


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    #6505293 - 01/28/07 05:20 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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GrimTroll said:
Not sure why a superior being would be in the presence of a church.




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Neither am I.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6538130 - 02/06/07 10:55 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I too know someone who has had the same two coloured angels appear on many occasions (tho I don't personally know them). They have found much significance in these angels, stating that the angels are simply a projection of their higher self's (a holographic manifestation of their wisdom, intuition, etc)....... So may not be a separate entity as you would think. But certainly very real and meaningful, whether or not its just a part of her imagination is irrelevant. Everything radiates with "truth"!


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6557357 - 02/12/07 10:03 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I believe she believed she saw angels. But not a fiber in my being think she saw angles in the biblical sense.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6558500 - 02/12/07 04:23 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

never heard of anyone letting their imagination go wild while daydreaming in church before...

whatever she saw, however she saw it, I think she should be more careful about what kind of meaning she places on it. people see what the want to see, they translate things the way they want to hear it claiming there can be only one true explanation. organized religion, yet again, is largely to blame.


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    #6559953 - 02/12/07 09:32 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I've seen all sorts of rainbow spirits while I was spun. I have no idea what they are though, other than higher beings. I do believe they're real.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6946464 - 05/21/07 11:54 AM (6 years, 6 days ago)

More power to the schizophrenics. The reality is so much more interesting. Who would have thought you could learn so much just by talking to yourself/spirits/ancestors/watchers/GOD/the father. Shamans. I think the 'illness' is actually the gateway. Purple, I like that color. Green, that too. Its the red ones I am worried about with their 'truth'.


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    #6946470 - 05/21/07 11:56 AM (6 years, 6 days ago)

Interesting and confusing, like swimming in a blender.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: MiRrOr]
    #6947337 - 05/21/07 03:40 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

What religion is she?

I assume she believes in it?

Also interesting to note that she had 'angel dust' on her which her friends saw. Did you see this dust? Did she keep any of it?

Ultimately though, as you've already realised. The 'version' of reality is within the individual. What you 'sense' is essentially just chemicals/signals in your brain.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: Ego Death]
    #6949160 - 05/21/07 10:48 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

It is really odd that you should say that.

I am currently in the middle of reading a book about the Flower of Life by Drunvalo M. and he told of a story where he met two angels, purple and green, at one time in his life. He has claims that he has meditated with a being named Thoth, the being also being Hermes. This being, says Drunvalo, teaches things to him about the universe and reality. Purple and green angels, written in the book.


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Re: my girlfriend saw an angel at church... [Re: WScott]
    #6949260 - 05/21/07 11:05 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

they exist b/c i fucked on last night.....


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