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 so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers 
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I mean... dont you think that out of all of the people that were there, and all of the people that jumped, noone was able to rig themselves up a parachute, or anything else that would have slowed their decent.
All sorts of businesses and offices and interrior decorations that could have been used to slow their rate of fall to somthing survivable.
i mean, fuck as a stoner who has had to make a pipe out of a potato and ghetto rigged broken axles and car parts with duct tape.... you think that someone could have done somthing, rigged somthing up with all of the material laying about....
even a large enough piece of carpet could have been used, rigged up and tied up using computer cords etc....
forgive me if this is insensitive..... but really..... dont you think that someone could have pulled it off?
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
#6407891 - 12/29/06 01:46 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What inside of an office would really be feasible? I don't think paper-clip ladders would do the trick; possibly tying computer/phone cables together? Panic and smoke most likely detered the best of plans.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
#6407894 - 12/29/06 01:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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id seriously doubt it man, first of all in a state of panic like that you dont really have time to think straight. Secondly i doubt any of the people working were familliar with aerodynamics or BASE jumping. Make shift parachutes wouldn't do much, take a look at how a real parachute is constructed and compare it to what you could make out of plastic banner (which the wind would probably rip to shreds or right out of the persons hands).
Id have to say that the people would have the same percentage of suriving with the make shift parachute as without.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
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Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
#6407897 - 12/29/06 01:48 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the people that jumped... it was their last resort. The fire was most likely burning them and they had no other option.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: coda]
#6407905 - 12/29/06 01:50 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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still, im sure that it was well within the realm of possibity and feasability to create a makeshift parachute, or atleast somthing to slow the decent enough so that one could survive..... or otherwises make it down the building.
just creating somthing to take up wind resistance could have been enough. I saw a mith busters episode once where they proved that you could survive a fall from a jumbo jet if you were able to somehow inflate and hold onto the emergency escape slide.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
#6407921 - 12/29/06 01:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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This city folk you're talking about they are lucky if they could assemble an Ikea.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
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Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: adamj]
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I think the people that jumped... it was their last resort. The fire was most likely burning them and they had no other option.
exactly.
I think the people were not trying to survive by jumping. they were choosing a painless instant death over being burned alive.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#6407966 - 12/29/06 02:15 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
No.
They also claimed to have bombs on-board and if anyone challenged them they would blow the plane up. They told the captors that if they co-operated with the hijacking, they would be fine. The people did not know the airplanes would be used as missiles until the last flight when friends and family told them so over cell phones.
It was not box-cutters that enabled the hijacking, it was the threat of blowing up the plane.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
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just creating somthing to take up wind resistance could have been enough. I saw a mith busters episode once where they proved that you could survive a fall from a jumbo jet if you were able to somehow inflate and hold onto the emergency escape slide.
An emergency escape slide is huge, very strong, relatively light and inflated. I can't see anything in a an office that would be of use. Maybe the carpet, but that wouldn't do much.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: GnuBobo]
#6408030 - 12/29/06 02:38 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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didnt anyone else notice that the one plane that took off from Newark is the one plane that didnt hit a target... yes it crashed. But because the people on the plane stood up for themselves.. i think its funny in a twisted way that the bostonites just sat around and let things happen while the new yorkers and people from new jersey said fuck these assholes if were gonna go down were gonna do it our way..
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: demiu5]
#6408036 - 12/29/06 02:41 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The jumpers were decoys to distract the few who weren't in on the conspiracy, while the buildings were rigged up with the final explosion sequence detonator coordinates. Those who weren't indoctrinated as Rovian G.O.O.N.S. were diverted to this distraction through mind resonance imaging transmitted from Secret Operations Base WTC7. Grainy video footage on the internets prove it. The jumpers were made to do so by brain scrambling technology developed in secret by Condoleeza Rice and Colon Powell working in tandem. What you also probably din't know is that the 'boxcutters' were actually highly specialized mind control devices that allowed the Irish hijackers to not only quickly subdue the robots aboard the flights, but also transmit the fake telephone "conversations" that are often cited as "evidence" by those who buy the official story.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: trauma47645]
#6408041 - 12/29/06 02:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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didnt anyone else notice that the one plane that took off from Newark is the one plane that didnt hit a target... yes it crashed. But because the people on the plane stood up for themselves.. i think its funny in a twisted way that the bostonites just sat around and let things happen while the new yorkers and people from new jersey said fuck these assholes if were gonna go down were gonna do it our way..
that's retarded. the people on flight 93 were in contact with their families that were watching the news.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Vvellum]
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didnt anyone else notice that the one plane that took off from Newark is the one plane that didnt hit a target... yes it crashed. But because the people on the plane stood up for themselves.. i think its funny in a twisted way that the bostonites just sat around and let things happen while the new yorkers and people from new jersey said fuck these assholes if were gonna go down were gonna do it our way..
that's retarded. the people on flight 93 were in contact with their families that were watching the news.
Exactly: Least-bad decision given the constraints of the situation. They just had the info to make an informed choice.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Vvellum]
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Vvellum said:
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Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
No.
They also claimed to have bombs on-board and if anyone challenged them they would blow the plane up. They told the captors that if they co-operated with the hijacking, they would be fine. The people did not know the airplanes would be used as missiles until the last flight when friends and family told them so over cell phones.
It was not box-cutters that enabled the hijacking, it was the threat of blowing up the plane.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
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stupid post
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Re: so I'm amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Vvellum]
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Vvellum said:
Quote:
Penguarky Tunguin said:
Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
No.
They also claimed to have bombs on-board and if anyone challenged them they would blow the plane up. They told the captors that if they co-operated with the hijacking, they would be fine. The people did not know the airplanes would be used as missiles until the last flight when friends and family told them so over cell phones.
It was not box-cutters that enabled the hijacking, it was the threat of blowing up the plane.
you know, that may be true, but if someone was threatening me with a utility knife you can buy at any hardware store and they told me they somehow managed to smuggle a bomb on a airplane and possessed capabilities of detonating said bomb remotely...
I'd say "you're fucking crazy  "
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Re: so I'm amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: deryl]
#6408084 - 12/29/06 03:03 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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And then I'd cave their skull in.
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Re: so I'm amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#6408128 - 12/29/06 03:18 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's so easy to say how you would react in a life threatening situation when you are sitting at your computer.
I do it all the time too.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: ZippoZ]
#6408141 - 12/29/06 03:23 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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You know, after that happened, I saw a guy on TV, that was marketing
parachutes for office people. I would have to see it done to believe it.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#6408245 - 12/29/06 04:08 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
Yes. And the reason they did is because there wasnt nothin but women and pussy business men on the planes (thats who is always on planes) Let there have been some good ole boys on them planes and they would of had a heap of trouble trying to intimidate them with a box cutter. Sure a box cutter can cut you up real good, maybe even enough to bleed you to death if they get lucky but most likely it wouldnt be nothin you couldnt get over.
If Id been on a plane with a highjacker id fuckem up no matter if they had a box cutter or not. Ive thought about what id do if something like that would happen because I fly allot.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: so I'm amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: JustK]
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JustK said:
It's so easy to say how you would react in a life threatening situation when you are sitting at your computer.
I do it all the time too.
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Re: so I'm amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Brugman]
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aye now just cause you are a spineless pansy dont mean everyone has to be. I tell you what if a muslim is fixin to run my plane into a tower, and has a box cutter, im gonna attack him and give it my all to subdue him and take control of the situation, and hope to hell somebody else has the balls to take care of the other ones, i reckon youd be the whiner in the lavatory crying to your girfriend on the phone right? because im as good as dead no matter what so it dont matter, im gonna go down with a fight thats all there is to that.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: so I'm amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Psychoslut]
#6408545 - 12/29/06 05:52 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats probably the last thing they were thinking about....
but thats an idea, having parachutes available in skyscrapers.
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Re: so I'm amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Leanin]
#6408564 - 12/29/06 05:59 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, cause they are spineless pansys. they was intimidated by the fact that they are foreighners with knifes. flight 93 that crashed in PA didnt make it cause there was american men on that flight that didnt let that plane make it to the White House.
You do know that THOUSANDS of people can be in them buildings, where are they going to store thousands of parachutes? Who is going to pay for them and pay for safety courses for all them people to learn how to jump. That just wouldnt work out. The best they could do is have a good evac plan.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Psychoslut]
#6408574 - 12/29/06 06:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes. And the reason they did is because there wasnt nothin but women and pussy business men on the planes (thats who is always on planes)
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Psychoslut said:
Ive thought about what id do if something like that would happen because I fly allot.
Tryin to tell us somethin?
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: eligal]
#6408579 - 12/29/06 06:04 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, i told you somthing, i told you that if somebody tried to highjack my flight they are going to have to kill me to get to crash that plane cause i aint goin down like that
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Psychoslut]
#6408585 - 12/29/06 06:06 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, i told you somthing, i told you that if somebody tried to highjack my flight they are going to have to kill me to get to crash that plane cause i aint goin down like that
oh hahaha i get your joke. I fly back and forth to school, and to fires because i am a wildland firefighter.
no pussy businessman here.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Psychoslut]
#6408636 - 12/29/06 06:30 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have a relative who is high ranking in the federal government, who told me...no bullshit here...the flight that crashed in PA was SHOT DOWN by our military to prevent another 'attack' in DC.
Just think about it...it makes sense. Very little debris from a plane that crashed.they blew that thing out of the sky. And on top...created some BS storylines to make America belive there were heros on that flight. Im sure some effort was made to take over the plane, but in the end..it was F16s to take it down
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#6408719 - 12/29/06 07:13 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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How do you know? Where you there??
cell phone conversations and black boxes.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Vvellum]
#6408746 - 12/29/06 07:30 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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for realz.. ima get my parachuting license and then i will stash a parachute if i ever work in a huge sky scraper.
Hopefully my floor doesn't blow up.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Vvellum]
#6408757 - 12/29/06 07:34 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Vvellum said:
Quote:
Penguarky Tunguin said:
Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
No.
They also claimed to have bombs on-board and if anyone challenged them they would blow the plane up. They told the captors that if they co-operated with the hijacking, they would be fine. The people did not know the airplanes would be used as missiles until the last flight when friends and family told them so over cell phones.
It was not box-cutters that enabled the hijacking, it was the threat of blowing up the plane.
Plus before 9/11 planes were never bombed or shit. they took the people hostage and whatnot and eventually let them go.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Bacardi420]
#6408800 - 12/29/06 08:01 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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yup.
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Re: so Im amazed that noone was able to survive jumping from the WTC towers [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#6409046 - 12/29/06 10:14 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't you think it's also amazing that the terrorists took over the planes with box cutters?
From everything that I have read about it the passengers thought they all had bombs.
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