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help picking out medication for being bi-polar
    #6096805 - 09/24/06 11:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

yeah so ive been doing a little bit of research and have found 4 basic types of medications.. TCA's...MAOI's...SSRI's ,and SNRI's.. does anyone have any experience with these.. and is their any type that has advantages over another

again.. thanks for the help.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6097000 - 09/25/06 12:06 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

To be honest man, you should really talk to a doctor about this, there is far more pharmacology and body chemistry that goes into the equation than any of us can really understand.

also doses have to be highly regulated for alot of these drugs, as they can cause some pretty severe neurological damage and withdrawls

Those doctors spend years and years in school for a damn good reason, plus youre going to have to go and talk to one anyways to get a perscription


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: ZippoZ]
    #6097063 - 09/25/06 12:33 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

stay away from SSRI's, they are yuck and if u miss a dose or two u get messed in the head

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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6097912 - 09/25/06 10:44 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

in talking to various psychiatrists i know/are in my family, way too many people are being diagnosed with bi-polar syndrome than actually have it. it's like the ADHD of 2005-6.

not saying you don't have it, but get a second, third, fourth opinion...


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Krishna]
    #6098377 - 09/25/06 02:19 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

well i know i have it.. i spent like a month in a hosptial because i tried to hang myself and was literally.. 30 secs from death.. like every blood vessel from my neck up.. burst (including the ones in my eyes).. and ever since i have seasons that im just depressed.. (like right now).

the problem is, that i have no insurance at all.. so im trying to figure out what kind of medication i need, then seeing if theres alternative ways of getting it.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6098682 - 09/25/06 03:59 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Get a job with insurance. Or, get a job and get your own insurance. Will be well worth it in the long run.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6098690 - 09/25/06 04:01 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Mood stabilisers for general use and Lithium for when a manic episode begins to rise. But of course, consult your doctor. These kinds of questions arent really for the shroomery, are they?


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6102909 - 09/26/06 02:00 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Did you try out Omega3's (fish oil)? A lot of bipolar people have found good results with this supplement.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: redtailedhawk]
    #6103617 - 09/26/06 04:35 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

hmm no i havent.. but thats def something id be willing to try.. i think they have it at like GNC, ive seen it before.

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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6103671 - 09/26/06 04:47 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Sure. You might want to Google "Omega 3 bipolar" for more detailed clinical studies.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: redtailedhawk]
    #6103758 - 09/26/06 05:07 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

yeah.. im not just going to go and buy the stuff :wink: ... i def have some researching to do.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6105174 - 09/26/06 11:10 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

So.. because the sun is covered up more often, you feel sad and need to take medications?

Why do you have expectations about how you should feel? I know we all have an idea about what we'd feel like on a good day, but I think it's ignorant, greedy, and/or egotistical to say that you need to have a certain feeling in order to be alive.

I point this out because I'm concerned for your health. Being healthy and motivated seems like a better way to handle this than taking medicine.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #6108046 - 09/27/06 06:46 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

i hate when people have no idea what a mental illness is like.

dont worry, even the girlfriend doesnt understand that mentally, im different than most people.

and yeah, idk why it happens, but same time every year. for the past 3.. comes in cycles.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6115399 - 09/29/06 02:36 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I think that I can relate to many emotional problems because I have them. Beleive me, bro. I know it because I end up ruining many good things in my life because of fear and sadness and laziness. I know what it's like to be totally capable and really want to do something, yet I fail.

I just feel like there is a logical reason for why you feel that way. What are you expecting that isn't happening? Do you expect to be able to click on like a light switch when you experience something funny or cool or whatever else that should trigger a response? I think that it depends alot on who you are, what you're doing, where you're at, why you think it's happening, and how it all plays out from the first waking moment to the time you fall asleep at night. I think that things work in longer periods of time than just a day. Things can happen long-term. Say a week or a month or a year. That's why I don't understand this. Why do you feel different? What is the reasoning behind this conclusion? If nothing else, I'm curious.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #6115449 - 09/29/06 02:53 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Bipolar disorder (also known as manic depression) is a treatable illness marked by extreme changes in mood, thought, energy and behavior. It is not a character flaw or a sign of personal weakness. Bipolar disorder is also known as manic depression because a person’s mood can alternate between the "poles" mania (highs) and depression (lows). This change in mood or "mood swing" can last for hours, days weeks or months.

Bipolar disorder affects more than two million adult Americans. It usually begins in late adolescence (often appearing as depression during teen years) although it can start in early childhood or later in life. An equal number of men and women develop this illness (men tend to begin with a manic episode, women with a depressive episode) and it is found among all ages, races, ethnic groups and social classes. The illness tends to run in families and appears to have a genetic link. Like depression and other serious illnesses, bipolar disorder can also negatively affect spouses and partners, family members, friends and coworkers. (top)

Symptoms of Bipolar Disorder
Bipolar disorder differs significantly from clinical depression, although the symptoms for the depressive phase of the illness are similar. Most people who have bipolar disorder talk about experiencing "highs" and "lows" – the highs are periods of mania, the lows periods of depression. These swings can be severe, ranging from extreme energy to deep despair. The severity of the mood swings and the way they disrupt normal life activities distinguish bipolar mood episodes from ordinary mood changes.

Symptoms of mania - the "highs" of bipolar disorder

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Increased physical and mental activity and energy
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Heightened mood, exaggerated optimism and self-confidence
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Excessive irritability, aggressive behavior
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Decreased need for sleep without experiencing fatigue
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Grandiose delusions, inflated sense of self-importance
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Racing speech, racing thoughts, flight of ideas
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Impulsiveness, poor judgment, distractibility
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Reckless behavior
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In the most severe cases, delusions and hallucinations

Symptoms of depression - the "lows" of bipolar disorder

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Prolonged sadness or unexplained crying spells
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Significant changes in appetite and sleep patterns
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Irritability, anger, worry, agitation, anxiety
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Pessimism, indifference
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Loss of energy, persistent lethargy
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Feelings of guilt, worthlessness
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Inability to concentrate, indecisiveness
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Inability to take pleasure in former interests, social withdrawal
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Unexplained aches and pains
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Recurring thoughts of death or suicide


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: capliberty]
    #6115474 - 09/29/06 03:01 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Symptoms of mania - the "highs" of bipolar disorder

    *      Increased physical and mental activity and energy
    *      Heightened mood, exaggerated optimism and self-confidence
    *      Excessive irritability, aggressive behavior
    *      Decreased need for sleep without experiencing fatigue
    *      Grandiose delusions, inflated sense of self-importance
    *      Racing speech, racing thoughts, flight of ideas
    *      Impulsiveness, poor judgment, distractibility
    *      Reckless behavior
    *      In the most severe cases, delusions and hallucinations

Symptoms of depression - the "lows" of bipolar disorder

    *      Prolonged sadness or unexplained crying spells
    *      Significant changes in appetite and sleep patterns
    *      Irritability, anger, worry, agitation, anxiety
    *      Pessimism, indifference
    *      Loss of energy, persistent lethargy
    *      Feelings of guilt, worthlessness
    *      Inability to concentrate, indecisiveness
    *      Inability to take pleasure in former interests, social withdrawal
    *      Unexplained aches and pains
    *      Recurring thoughts of death or suicide




amazingly, I go through just about everything on that list daily, except for maybe crying spells, and I've been diagnosed with more than a few things..  but honestly I see them all as manufactured diseases, which they try to treat with manufactured cures.

Sorry to hear about your mental health problems.  I'm one of those pessimists that thinks maybe not everyone in the world is meant to be happy 100% of the time.  :frown:


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #6115680 - 09/29/06 03:59 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

see, right now i have EVERYTHING going for me.. i mean.. no stress whatsoever.. but yet.. im still depressed.. it happens around this time every year.. and runs thru the end of december usually.

like i literally dont have a single bad thing happening right now.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: Banez]
    #6115821 - 09/29/06 04:37 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

join the club.. seasonal shit happens. if you recognize it now, then you are already taking the required steps to deal with it


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: kotik]
    #6116082 - 09/29/06 06:02 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with kotik. When I have less energy, I take things slower and make sure to relax. It forces you to become more flexible.

I notice that, as I'm getting older, I don't exactly have energy for stuff all the time. It's definitely necessary to be in touch with yourself to read the signs as you go through your day. They will teach you what is a good idea and what's not. Whatever the case may be, I trust my abilities and I know that there are more important things to consider than whether or not I feel energetic. I'm not intending to harp on you, bro. I just want to share my perspective.

I have no opinion on medication besides the fact that I choose not to take it.


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Re: help picking out medication for being bi-polar [Re: kotik]
    #6116831 - 09/29/06 10:52 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

yeah i know

hobbit- i thought u were trying to agrue that i probably didnt have a mental disorder.


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