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 My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** 
#5861203 - 07/15/06 11:07 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Below is a terribly sad story, may bum you out!
Soooo fucked up.....
OK, so last night I was visiting a friend's house as there was a small gathering. The house is rented by four college guys officially (although any number of people are visiting/partying/sleeping over at any given time). Now, my buddy Fred is one of the official renters of this house and he has a dog that he keeps chained up in the backyard.
So, last night as I'm there chatting, Fred tells me that his buddy Kreg is going to stop by. This is exciting to Fred because: 1) he hasn't seen Kreg forever 2) Kreg travels around the country in a van and always has a lot of cool stories to tell 3) Kreg recently had a baby with his long time lover, Jill.
So anyway, Kreg, Jill, and their infant (Guy) show up and a full fledged party is launched (this is because Kreg is also a dealer and has many magical substances with him).
Apparently (I was talking to someone else when this happened) Kreg and Jill took some acid. I guess no one thought there would be any problem with two parents tripping and having no one sober to watch the babe. What fuck-ups! So, about two hours later, I hear a terrible scream from the back yard. I made my way out there and the first thing I saw was Fred chasing after his dog which had blood all over it's face. I look over and see Jill and Kreg kneeling over something on the ground.
Now, at this point I've smoked a lot of very good cannabis, so I am soaring a bit and am not entirely sure what's going on. At first, I thought the dog had bit either Kreg or Jill because they were tripping and messing around with it. But then I get closer and realize that the baby had been bitten. Jill is totally freaking out and in tears and kreg hands me his cell phone to call 911 (because he's tripping so hard).
So, I tell 911 that an infant was bitten. They ask me if the dog was a stray, I say no and they start drilling me for all this info. I tell her I know very little and she asks me where the parents are. I don't know what to do at this point and so I ask Jill if she is cool enough to talk. At this point she screams, "Help my baby! My baby's hurt! Oh my god!" Now, at this point she moves back from the baby a bit and I'm able to get a better idea of what happened:
Guy's neck had a gash the size of a silver-dollar in it, right in the middle. I remember thinking, "Shit, the dog bit out the baby's jugular and killed it." (I had no idea if the baby was dead or not as Jill wouldn't let anybody near Guy. She was also holding cloth from her dress against Guy's neck).
So I remained on the phone with the operator as Jill and Kreg were just uncontrollable. Kreg decided that he had to kill the dog and Fred while Fred was trying to talk some sense into him. Many people in the house had no idea anything had happened and were still partying. So I ran inside and told them the authorities were coming because of an accident in the backyard and told them to hide their shit. I also told them to stay out of the backyard, as there was enough going on back there.
At this point I remember hoping very much that the baby would be OK, although the wound looked substantial. I also remember being sooo pissed off at Kreg and Jill for being such terrible parents. Pretty soon the ambulance showed up with the police and the cops cleared everyone off the premises except for myself, Fred, Jill, Kreg, and the other roommates. Jill got into the ambulance with Guy and the police took a report from Fred, Kreg, and myself. Kreg told him right away that he was on acid and that he and Jill had been dancing around in the backyard with the dog while holding the baby. Apparently this got the dog riled up. Then, Jill tripped and dropped the baby. At this point the dog "ran over and bit Guy's neck like a rag doll." The police asked if Fred was able to control his dog until the animal control crew arrived. Apparently the dog was to be taken into custody immediately. After the report the police told me to get out of there and wouldn't let me talk to Fred or anyone. Although, as I was leaving I heard from the cop's radio that the infant accident was now a "fatality." Little Guy didn't make it 
So, I haven't been able to contact anyone who would know anything since. I'm pretty sure Kreg and Jill are in police custody with Fred, and none of the room-mates know anything.
It was a really terrible experience for all involved and made me realize a few things:
1) People need to make sure that they understand ALL that raising a child requires; a child is not a toy or a plaything or even your property. It is a PERSON! A little person that will one day have it's own dreams and talents and unique personal experiences. Please remember this! If you are not able to give the child the full care it needs, give it to someone who can. This is a HUMAN LIFE you are dealing with.
2) Tragedy can strike at anytime. You are most vulnerable when you least expect it.
3) Make sure your dog isn't a dick. I mean, I understand that all dogs are wolves and have the killer instinct deep down, but don't keep your dog penned up all the time in social isolation and them be surprised when he is a totally, aggressive fuck. Again, if you can't give the dog a proper, healthy environment, give it to someone who can! Fred's dog is scheduled to be killed due to the circumstances (and Fred's poor raising of the animal).
I'll post more as I figure it out. I'm burned out.
Sorry Guy! RIP 
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Pupil: Master, I do not understand...
Master: If you don't understand, eat your food and change your clothes.
Edited by MXNR (07/16/06 12:11 AM)
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 Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861205 - 07/15/06 11:09 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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OMG!
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861208 - 07/15/06 11:11 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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What a very sad story. That's very upsetting.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861211 - 07/15/06 11:14 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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your friends belong in jail. taking acid arouind your fucking infant ? what trashy irresponsible behavior. god the fact that anyone can become a parent is a shame. some people need to be chemically casterated so they cant reproduce
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: goobler]
#5861212 - 07/15/06 11:14 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Omg.
I don't even know what to say. That entire situation is just FUCKED. And sad. Wow.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861214 - 07/15/06 11:15 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's terrible.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5861217 - 07/15/06 11:18 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow,I havent heard such a fucked up story in a while.VERY sad stuff...what kind of dog was it?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861248 - 07/15/06 11:28 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn, that is incredibly fucked up. The blame lies on the parents only, no offense but they sound like true fuck-ups. I'm sure their guilt will eat them alive. I'm sorry you had to be the clear-head and see everything unfold, very tragic indeed RIP Guy the innocent
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blink]
#5861258 - 07/15/06 11:33 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
blinkidiot said:
You're bang on the money.
Bad parents, bad pet owners, bad situation
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mezcal]
#5861261 - 07/15/06 11:35 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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After a tragic thing like that,I bet the parents will never touch acid maybe everything all together...at least i wouldn't,My mind would have each trip linked to the tragedy.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mezcal]
#5861262 - 07/15/06 11:36 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn't blame it on the pet owner, dogs do what they want. If a child (a small child) plays wiht a large animal, the animal's going to think it's a toy or pray, and that's just nature.
I feel terrible about the child, but why on earth would you bring a child with you to a party where you're going to be doing drugs? That's terrible parenting. A huge mistake on their part and judgement.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Maverick]
#5861268 - 07/15/06 11:42 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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a tragedy
and trouble for all involved
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: goobler]
#5861283 - 07/15/06 11:52 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wish I could get some acid  , but to do it when no one is going to be watching an infant while you bring it to a party thats just wrong. Its stuff like this that gives LSD a bad rap. You never hear about the scientists that took low doses of LSD and then they found the double helix in DNA.IF that happened to me am sure i would never touch anything ever again. I thought once you have an infant it makes you never what to touch anything again?
sorry to hear bout the baby. am pretty sure their going to have to kill the dog.
RI May he RIP seeing how is in a better place now and not have fucked up parents there. In the spirit in the sky.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861291 - 07/15/06 11:56 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jesus Christ. Did this really happen?
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CherryBom
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5861296 - 07/15/06 11:59 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
RandalFlagg said:
Jesus Christ. Did this really happen?
I asked myself the same thing. The circumstances leading up to the event are just SO FUCKED UP, it seems unreal. If I were at a party where people were doing drugs, and there was a baby present, I would make it my personal responsibility to watch the baby. I don't understand how in an entire party full of people, everyone was ok with the fact that people were tripping nutz around a BABY.
It's just unreal. Tragic. Wow.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
#5861302 - 07/15/06 12:03 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I WILL wakeup now...
I need to go hug my kids
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: goobler]
#5861312 - 07/15/06 12:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
goobler said:
I WILL wakeup now...
I need to go hug my kids
Me too.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5861317 - 07/15/06 12:11 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
#5861334 - 07/15/06 12:17 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
CherryBom said:
Quote:
RandalFlagg said:
Jesus Christ. Did this really happen?
I asked myself the same thing. The circumstances leading up to the event are just SO FUCKED UP, it seems unreal. If I were at a party where people were doing drugs, and there was a baby present, I would make it my personal responsibility to watch the baby. I don't understand how in an entire party full of people, everyone was ok with the fact that people were tripping nutz around a BABY.
It's just unreal. Tragic. Wow.
I don't feel any guilt about the situation, if that's what you mean. I went to the house to have fun and conduct a little business, I can't help it if some tards decide to throw their baby to the wolves. I was very high by the time they showed up and I had no idea there would be a baby. I also had no idea they dropped acid. No one mentioned this fact to me. So am I supposed to walk up to them and say, "Excuse me, are you going to be able to take care of your child this evening or should I watch him for you?" I didn't expect to be there very long either. Also, Fred, Jill, guy, and Kreg went into the back yard alone because they were intimate friends and had a lot of catching up to do (at least, this is what Fred told me). I remained inside and chatted with a cute Asian girl and waited for them all to return.
Sorry if I'm over reacting in this post, but I guess I am fighting guilt a bit. I was thinking that if I had kept an eagle eye on Guy than maybe he would still be breathing, but that's just my mind eating itself. The dog was a Rottweiler named duke.
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Pupil: Master, I do not understand...
Master: If you don't understand, eat your food and change your clothes.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861340 - 07/15/06 12:20 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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not guilt man....sadness
deep sadness
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861342 - 07/15/06 12:20 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not suggesting that you should feel guilty. What's done is done...it's just a really shitty situation.
I'm sorry dude. I hope the coming days and weeks bring peace. 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: goobler]
#5861344 - 07/15/06 12:21 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow.
Thats so fucked. I can't even imagine how the parents must feel, like yeah their fault for fucking around and I can't believe she dropped the baby in the first place! but imagine how you would feel after that.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Gillette]
#5861357 - 07/15/06 12:26 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I could never recover, the thought makes me want to vomit
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]  1
#5861361 - 07/15/06 12:27 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jesus
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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#5861385 - 07/15/06 12:36 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thats horrible can you imagine seeing your kid getting mauled while on LSD because of your own stupidity. 
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It's stories like these that people should read about before thinking of doing any type of drug and/or alcohol anywhere near their kids.
A shame 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
#5861413 - 07/15/06 12:44 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Situations like this really confirm my belief that there's no sense to anything; that it's all just tiny particles moving through space. I mean, what kind of life was that for little GUY? Where is the purpose or the intelligence in that senseless act?
It's a dog-eat-dog world and it doesn't seem like god's here to hold your hand...
I personally resent young parents who don't understand the full sanctity of having a little baby.
Well, let's all learn from this then shall we? I suppose that would be a bit of good coming from this mess.
I'm sure Guy would appreciate your concern shroomers. I forgot how full of love the shroomery was.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861420 - 07/15/06 12:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I pray to God that you are making all of this up as some kind of sick joke.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861422 - 07/15/06 12:46 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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(imajerk)
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
Edited by OneMoreRobot3021 (07/15/06 12:54 PM)
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Ashford]
#5861426 - 07/15/06 12:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ashford said:
I thought once you have an infant it makes you never what to touch anything again?
What kind of reasoning is that? 
   
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Robot! Edit that immediately. You're about to get a bad rating from me.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861447 - 07/15/06 12:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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thats a very sad story indeed, but I guess things like this happen every day around the world. still sad though...
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OMR edit that PLEASE
god damn man
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: O
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(sorry i'm new to the shroomery forums, i didn't mean to make this a reply to the last post, just a reply to the whole thread)
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861521 - 07/15/06 01:12 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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mandatory breeding laws
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: coma white]
#5861538 - 07/15/06 01:17 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hear, hear!
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861582 - 07/15/06 01:28 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im so sorry for this whole sitaution, wow I never imagined something so horrible happening.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Maverick]
#5861585 - 07/15/06 01:28 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
DRTMaverick said:
I wouldn't blame it on the pet owner, dogs do what they want. If a child (a small child) plays wiht a large animal, the animal's going to think it's a toy or pray, and that's just nature.
not true, I never have had a dog I wouldnt allow around my children, dogs can be
well behaved and thats all dependant on the owners, chain a dog up outside and it
doesnt get socialized, it's more likely to be an agressive dog. I had 3 dogs that
have bitten someone and 1 was provoked the other two percieved a treat.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5861606 - 07/15/06 01:39 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is terrible, and sadly the bullshit meter is not going off
I am disgusted at this act, these people, and this story.
I hope they do some time, and the dog gets put down( as horrible of a thing to say as that) It is warranted here
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Kerbouchard]
#5861634 - 07/15/06 01:50 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, I admit that, as much as I feel sorry for the kid, I feel sorry for the poor dog as well. The dog can't be held responsible for his actions, but he clearly needs to be put down considering the circumstances. Quite a lot of life lost and filled with suffering due to ignorance on both sides.
Peace.
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Like being here
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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Hahahahaha!!! Complete choas.
What a story... are you out of the woods trouble-wise? I wouldn't think you'd be in any trouble at all, but you know how cops and the law are these days...
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861717 - 07/15/06 02:23 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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thats really sad, those parents are completely to blame, when you have a kid, youre not supposed to bring your baby to all your drug deals. and eating acid at a party with your kid? WTF?
they both need to do some jail time, i hope your buddy fred doesn't get in any trouble. and if those parents try to sue him or blame him at all they should be fucking shot. the only thing worse than a tradgedy like this is the person who was at fault not taking responsibility. even though freds dog might not have been socialized i put all the blame squarely on the parents. im sure they realize this too and will be tortured for the rest of their life by the guilt.
this is some really bad shit.
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I have a feeling that their guilt alone will do the torturing. It was a mistake, albeit a really fucking neglectful one. This is a story I'll be telling for years.
MXNR, I hope things work out for you. Good luck, keep us updated.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: LuNaTiX]
#5861746 - 07/15/06 02:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm so glad we have spelling bee champions here.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: LuNaTiX]
#5861808 - 07/15/06 03:01 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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How the hell do you just drop a baby?
I wouldn't be surprised if they messing around the baby treating it like an airplane or something equally dumb to do while fucked up. This was getting the dog excited and making it think the baby was just a toy doll and when it finally dropped the dog went to fetch it. The dog probably tasted blood and said, "oh shit" and ran away like in the story. Its not like the dog hunted the baby down and was running around the backyard with it in its jaws.
but damn, thats horrible
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5861825 - 07/15/06 03:08 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow, im speechless. I have friends that ive smoked weed with since we were kids. Some of these friends got married and have kids, people ive smoked with for almost 10 years QUIT WEED because they have a kid and thus serious reponsibility. I just can't understand what makes a person think they can take a heavy hallucinogen without someone sober to take care of their baby.
RIP guy, sorry your parents were pathetic losers.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: coda]
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I know everyone trips different... but i still have some trouble thinking why the parents acted so fooly; even on acid if you are with YOUR FAMILY they should been watching over the baby... i mean, that is an irresponsible behavior that goes further than the drug issue.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: coda]
#5861980 - 07/15/06 04:06 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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RIP guy, sorry your parents were pathetic losers.
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#5861985 - 07/15/06 04:08 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think this should be stickied for a couple of days, just so that everyone understands what kind of tragedy can come from these types of situations.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5862018 - 07/15/06 04:21 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's sad how the mom dropping her baby isn't even the worst part of the story.
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Quote:
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After a tragic thing like that,I bet the parents will never touch acid maybe everything all together...at least i wouldn't,My mind would have each trip linked to the tragedy.
They won't be able to because they'll be in jail.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Hawkeye2]
#5862130 - 07/15/06 05:11 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Truly horrific. I'm never having children.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MOTH]
#5862155 - 07/15/06 05:28 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm sorry you had to witness something so horrific.
I feel the parents should go to jail and your friend should never own a dog again. Chaining a male dog almost guarentees it will bite someone. It's horrible it turned out this way. Was the dog intact or neutered? I'm guessing intact.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Karen]
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I agree anytime i ever met a male dog on a chain he wanted to kill me. Well maybe not kill but yeah they are very possessive of their territory. That dog was prolly thinking the kid was some sort of competition or maybe just in "his" territory. My dads friends son got bit in the face by a chow gave him a shit load of stitches...... It happens..... sadly
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: PinballWizard]
#5862196 - 07/15/06 05:51 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's sad how the mom dropping her baby isn't even the worst part of the story.
that was my thinking as well...that alone would get some serious,serious repercussions around here...
and i don't even like kids(honestly,can't stand them)...and am generally a very strong person in these type of things...
but i also feel physically sick ...sweet fucking Jesus,man...I'd like to think people are speaking out of emotion when they say the parents should be shot...but damn do i see where your coming from.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5862216 - 07/15/06 06:05 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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this is so fucked up, as a parent, i would have called CPS from the party, informing of the situation.....im glad none of my friends are such asshats...
also, could you please post the news report when it comes out...
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5862262 - 07/15/06 06:23 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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OMG
I don't know what to say...
I hope you're not taking it to hard it sounds like you did what you could
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: soulcircus]
#5862294 - 07/15/06 06:38 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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because they are worthless?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Cowgold]
#5862618 - 07/15/06 08:44 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I thought hippies always did drugs around their kids haven't you guys ever been to a dead or dead related concert?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#5862661 - 07/15/06 09:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just because it's a hippie concert with children present does not mean the parents are on drugs. 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5862677 - 07/15/06 09:07 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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fucking tragic. stupid fucking irresponsible acid eating hippies.
FUCK that sucks.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: shroomphunker]
#5862717 - 07/15/06 09:22 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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was this in the newspaper? i'd hate to think a sick fuck would actually make such a story up
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: supra]
#5862812 - 07/15/06 09:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
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also, could you please post the news report when it comes out...
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Yes, please do so.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5862927 - 07/15/06 10:29 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't really have a problem with parents tripping if one of the parents or somebody else is watching the kid and is sober and the dosage is relatively low. There just has to be common sense involved. Don't play with your kid while on acid beside the vicious chained up dog! I honestly think I dislike your friend with the chain-dog the most...
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Wysefool]
#5863158 - 07/15/06 11:40 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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**UPDATE**
OK, so here's what's going on for all who are interested.
First of all, Guy's (the infant) death is confirmed. He died from loss of blood in the ambulance. He was just too little and the wound was too substantial for his body to hold on. Although Jill did prolong his life by using her dress to slow the bleeding.
Also, Duke (the dog) will be killed Monday. Apparently, when a dog is directly responsible for a person's death, it MUST be put down as soon as possible. There is no other possibility on this matter. Personally, I think this is bullshit. Even though Duke was a pretty dickish Dog, the incident did not occur in public and the dog was clearly antagonized/riled up by the two trippers (who were apparently dancing in the moonlight and darting to and fro). I mean, if I run into a guy's back yard and antagonize his dog and it bites me and kills me, is the dog responsible? Legally the situation with Guy is in a gray area and the dog will have to die as well. i guess(?) that's for the best...
As far as Jill and Kreg go, they were devastated obviously. Jill stayed at the hospital with Guy's body (still tripping and totally freaking out) while Kreg went off with the police to answer some more questions (although it should be noted that Kreg didn't leave in handcuffs according to Fred, so I assume he was not under arrest at that time). Fred has tried feverishly to call Kreg's cell but he won't/can't pick up.
Fred was told that he had broken no law and would not be held responsible under the circumstances (being two acid-heads freaking the dog out and then dropping Guy in the dog's general direction). Fred does think that Jill and Kreg may attempt to take it to civil court due to the fact that they aren't speaking with him, but I told him that this is a long-shot. First of all, Kreg admitted to the police that they were both tripping and were therefore totally endangering their own child by their behavior. Also, Kreg told the police that Fred was just coming out of the house (bathroom) into the backyard as the attack happened. So Fred is pretty shaken up after losing his dog, guy's death, and the fact that Kreg and Jill may be pissed at him (for some reason).
As for me, I'm fine (other than just being disturbed/shaken by all this). I was nowhere near the event and Kreg admitted this to the police. They do not perceive any foul play in the matter and are treating it as an "animal accidental mortality" case. These are all things I've gathered from my/Fred's conversations with the police. The police say it is unclear yet as to what will happen to Jill and Kreg. And since we can't call them, the police told Fred his best bet was to call the officer who is handling the case at the start of the week (Monday) to get further details. I personally think it's a good bet that they could be charged with manslaughter. Definition of manslaughter (according to http://www.utcourts.gov/resources/glossary.htm):
A person recklessly causes the death of another, or acting under extreme emotional disturbance, causes the death of another, or acting under circumstances when a person reasonably believes the circumstances provide a legal justification or excuse for his conduct constitutes manslaughter.
But, due to some of the things the officer said and the fact that duke is being put to sleep, I think state may simply treat this as an "animal accidental mortality" case. I'm not a lawyer and have no idea. I personally hate the idea of anyone going to jail and it wont bring Guy back and I'm sure they feel terrible. What good will come of them being locked up? Well, they won't be near any children.
I'm also very curious to see if Jill or Kreg had a blood test done by the cops at any point to establish an LSD level for prosecution of a manslaughter charge. Also, could Jill and Kreg claim that they were insane when the event occurred? I don't know about any of this.
That's all I know for now.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5863194 - 07/15/06 11:50 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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No matter what. This is sad on many levels.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5863213 - 07/15/06 11:55 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can't even imagine what the experience was like tripping...my god...
Seriously, I can't even fathom it.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5863224 - 07/15/06 11:59 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pretty sure LSD can't be tracked with blood samples.
This just makes me sick, though.
If you're not ready to have a kid, and treat him or her like your only, DON'T FUCKING PROCREATE. 
That's why we have a society.
Simply reprehensible, adolescent behavior on the part of the "parents".
That fucking dog probably got more attention than their kid. Now both of them are going to be dead.
What a waste....
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: GnuBobo]
#5863231 - 07/16/06 12:02 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you think they mentioned that they were tripping to the people at the hospital?
Imagine going through that and not being able to come down. Fucking christ.
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Yeah, well, from what the police said, Jill totally went insane when she found out guy was dead. She refused to believe it and insisted that there was something someone could do to bring him back. The torment she must've felt... 
Also, immediately after the event, Kreg was pretty pissed at Fred and was about to get pretty nasty just as the police/ambulance arrived.
A terrible situation no matter what, but throw a heavy dose of cid in the mix... I think it's possible due to the trauma of the event and the cid, that they may have permanent psychological issues.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5863243 - 07/16/06 12:05 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh yeah man. Suicide watch probably.
And what about yourself? You gonna be cool, eventually?
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god, idk what to say. wow
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Christ.. this is all just terrible. Well the story is, to be sure.
On the other hand - the responses here, they show some serious consideration 
I will be doing my best to take this experience to heart; continuing to keep my eyes out to help guide, or simply help out, fellow beings whenever possible. A freak accident, fueled through irresponsibility this was. Given the circumstances, I do hope Guy suffered as little as possible.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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Also, immediately after the event, Kreg was pretty pissed at Fred and was about to get pretty nasty just as the police/ambulance arrived.
That makes my blood boil man. He has no right to be pissed at anybody but himself and his cunt wife. Sorry but this is how I feel. If they both kill themselves the world will be better off without them. WHY would you dose up on L and "dance around in the moonlight" with your newborn child? That's very ignorant and reprehensible. They should have considered adoption before that poor child was born, he would probably still be alive.
People keep mentioning the guilt they will undoubtedly feel. Good... I hope it eats them alive like muriatic acid. Let them both get cancer of the eyes and go blind.
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I bet you they don't live to see '07.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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This is a pretty big thread.. lots of replies and text to read, so I just skimmed it over for now.
Will read more later.
Not really sure what to say about it all.
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You know an infant child really has no judgement of his/her own. When you pick him/her up you are taking their safety into your own hands. I'd be damned if I was to carry around a baby (or any young child) under the influence of any chemical. They however took it to another level I can't begin to fathom. It seems they were dancing around on a high dose of L taunting an outdoor rotty with their own kin like he was fucking bait? That makes me sick.
I have a two year old daughter and when she's with me she's blindly putting her trust (to keep her safe at all costs) into my hands. There's no way I'd ever disrespect that trust my little girl is giving me. That's downright disgusting imho.
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That's a good point. I know people who bring their babies around hard drugs like coke, crack, heroin, etc.. it's disgusting.
I would never do anything like that.
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You know an infant child really has no judgement of his/her own. When you pick him/her up you are taking their safety into your own hands. I'd be damned if I was to carry around a baby (or any young child) under the influence of any chemical. They however took it to another level I can't begin to fathom. It seems they were dancing around on a high dose of L taunting an outdoor rotty with their own kin like he was fucking bait? That makes me sick.
I have a two year old daughter and when she's with me she's blindly putting her trust (to keep her safe at all costs) into my hands. There's no way I'd ever disrespect that trust my little girl is giving me. That's downright disgusting imho.
Good post man. I've got nothing to say other than I completely agree with you.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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That's horrible about the dog.If it's true the dog immediately let go then the dog probably didn't even know what it was doing until he realized it. In this incident i would compare it to them dropping the baby and it landing on a sharp rock. It is 100% their fault.
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Damn man that's horrible. I used to have to go to some really shitty, ghetto places to get my heroin... places like crack houses.
I walked in one day, went to the back room where the business takes place and 3 females were inside the small room, one was holding an infant.
All 3 of them were smoking crack and the room was all cloudy.
Imagine what that smoke could do to a small developing mind of an infant. 
The mother of the baby was probably only 16-17 tops too. As soon as I walked in, she started asking me for money. I wouldnt give her any and she tried to sell her body to me for 10 bucks. I got disgusted and left. Talk about something sad and pathetic.
Tell me that whole thing is not fucked up.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: buckwheat]
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So many thoughts race around my brain. First and formost I feel sorrow for the death of an innocent child, secondly I feel for the parents. How many people here calling the 'cunts&cocksucker' have ever lost a child huh? Especially through a freak accident? That being said heres whats flowing through my mind:
1. Why were these people so responsible as to to both take LSD leaving no one of sound mind to watch the child? They bear great responsibility in his death.
2. Why was such a violent animal (provoked by dancing?) kept by the owner? Why wasnt there a sufficent warning? I blame the dog owner as much as the parents, as far as I can see from the post he invited people into his house (knowing LSD would be used, knowing as infant was present) with a deadly animal. Why was there no warning? If I brought my kid to someones house and my kid was killed by their dog and they didnt give me any warning about the dog Id kill the motherfuckers.
3. I think both parties share in the responsibilty of the childs death and both should be punished accordingly but I hope only the dog is punished in this case because Im sure both parties will suffer greatly.
4. I hope LSD doesnt become the scapegoat for this tragic situation but, it most likely will.
4. I hope the mother makes it to see 2007.
EDIT: of course no one knows the specifics of the case as of now so its kinda pointless to assign blame at this point.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: eris]
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Another good example of human filth. It's sad because the child has no say in the matter. Being so young it's not like they can comprehend and analyze the situation for what it really is. Sorry you had to witness that shit bro.
On another note sorry for the very emotional / rude responses, blame it on the lack of sleep + alcohol.
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Sadly I've seen worse things in my days on the hard drug scene. Some of the things that I've witnessed will leave me scarred for life. I don't even want to get into it all. Maybe some night when we have time, in another place.. don't want to get this too far off topic.
As far as your responses go - no need to be sorry.. this kind of topic will generate emotional responses from even well rested folks. 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: eris]
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...but were all going to try and keep it respectful.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
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I didn't notice anything out of line as of yet.. I didn't get the chance to read the whole thread as there are a lot of replies.
Of course the rules still apply here. Going to keep an eye out. Did you notice something bad/wrong?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: eris]
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i made a not-so-apropos comment, but at the behest of goobs and randalflagg, deleted it.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
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I'm just now getting around to reading this. All I've got to say is what a fucked up situation. So sad.
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Well you are more experienced at this than me.. don't hesitate to hit the button if you see something out of place.
I'm pretty beat from reading 2 pages worth of hunting forum threads.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
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Geeyod. Damn.
What a train wreck.
Sorry you had to get messed up in all this.
How awful for everybody involved.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: Harmonic_Order]
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No doubt! This thread fucked my whole head up!
Jesus!
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Gratos]
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I don't see how you could blame the dog or instantly call it a deadly animal.
Take any dog, a stranger, and a cabbage patch kid. Have the stranger dance around in front of the dog while waving the doll around and then suddenly drop the doll on the floor in front of the dog. Chances are the dog is gonna bite the doll.
And I'm not sure about lsd, especially with whatever dose they were doing, but I've tripped on shrooms a few times and some really really fucked up stuff has happened and i can tell you adrenline really over rides the drug. However, things kind of feel like a dream as if its not really happening which could be more of a product of the fucked up thing occuring. Like people have said before, I'd be surprised if they ever tripped again.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: d33p]
#5863826 - 07/16/06 02:51 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Take any dog, a stranger, and a cabbage patch kid. Have the stranger dance around in front of the dog while waving the doll around and then suddenly drop the doll on the floor in front of the dog. Chances are the dog is gonna bite the doll.
Especially one that was obviously irritated by the dancing. Like he said the dog let go quickly but with a Rotty and a baby it doesnt take much.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: d33p]
#5863832 - 07/16/06 02:51 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man, they are probably scarred for life! I would totally go off the deep end! Not that I would EVER trip or get real fucked up around my son, but you know what I mean, I'm sure. They suck, as parents!
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
#5863954 - 07/16/06 03:24 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is awakening a wrath in me. a desperate, throbbing, anger.
They took acid, with an infant in their care.
They walked up to the face of god and pissed in it.
For the chance to dance like idiots.
They raped us all.
Stupid doesn't cover it. It doesn't even TOUCH the depth of this treatchery.
SO needless. SO SICK. We should all go to hell. We are a damnable culture that such choices could occurr.
well, my heart is broken.
To the poster, I suggest you look real hard at whats going on here. It's pretty easy to enter a situation, meaning to be detached. But when something happens. when something is wrong. and you KNOW it. you can ALWAYS intercede.
and there should be NO conflict for you to act when you know that the guardians of a helpless baby have just irreversably abbandoned their ability to be parents for several hours.
would you allow a baby to remain in a car alone on a hot day? sorry, that window was smashed the second i saw the baby. and if the parent says one word to me, one little thing, they are going to find out just how much momentum pure wrath adds to a physical expression.
Im a pretty controlled cat, very logical. not prone to impulsiveness. I logically make certain exceptions.
WHen children are REALLY in danger, I'm the fucking terminator!
I can't understand how you can detach from this. But i guess thats just me. I might be wrong... but if I were there in your place. That child would be alive. and I would NOT be welcome back. Nor would I WANT to return.
I know this for CERTAIN.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mitchnast]
#5863973 - 07/16/06 03:28 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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You're not wrong in the least imho. You said some things in that last paragraph I personally restrained from saying myself... but I agree they needed to be said.. Much respect to you man.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mitchnast]
#5863985 - 07/16/06 03:32 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is awakening a wrath in me. a desperate, throbbing, anger...
WHen children are REALLY in danger, I'm the fucking terminator!
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
#5864252 - 07/16/06 05:47 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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RIP little one
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: quiver]
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People are such idiots when they combine drugs and children,I for one hate children and I will still say that this is just a down right tragedy.It makes me sick.I know a guy who was arrested and lost custody of his son because his son was in the house when his girlfriend overdosed.He got charged with child endangerment and hasn't had his son since.If these parents don't get into some sort of trouble there is something really wrong here.But weather they get in legal trouble or not this will eat at them for the rest of their lives....Having your child die is terrible enough on any level,but having to watch it happen and feel responsible for it all while tripping hard on acid is enough to drive someone out of their mind forever.Jail or no jail their suffering is guaranteed.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
#5864382 - 07/16/06 07:04 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is fucked beyond words. But to all of you that think the criminal justice system has anything to offer the parents which could be somehow greater than the hell they have now found themselves in, you're crazy!
Sometimes the law cannot help you, sorry.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mitchnast]
#5864500 - 07/16/06 08:50 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
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this is awakening a wrath in me. a desperate, throbbing, anger.
They took acid, with an infant in their care.
They walked up to the face of god and pissed in it.
For the chance to dance like idiots.
They raped us all.
Stupid doesn't cover it. It doesn't even TOUCH the depth of this treatchery.
SO needless. SO SICK. We should all go to hell. We are a damnable culture that such choices could occurr.
well, my heart is broken.
To the poster, I suggest you look real hard at whats going on here. It's pretty easy to enter a situation, meaning to be detached. But when something happens. when something is wrong. and you KNOW it. you can ALWAYS intercede.
and there should be NO conflict for you to act when you know that the guardians of a helpless baby have just irreversably abbandoned their ability to be parents for several hours.
would you allow a baby to remain in a car alone on a hot day? sorry, that window was smashed the second i saw the baby. and if the parent says one word to me, one little thing, they are going to find out just how much momentum pure wrath adds to a physical expression.
Im a pretty controlled cat, very logical. not prone to impulsiveness. I logically make certain exceptions.
WHen children are REALLY in danger, I'm the fucking terminator!
I can't understand how you can detach from this. But i guess thats just me. I might be wrong... but if I were there in your place. That child would be alive. and I would NOT be welcome back. Nor would I WANT to return.
I know this for CERTAIN.
I don't feel any guilt about the situation, if that's what you mean. I went to the house to have fun and conduct a little business, I can't help it if some tards decide to throw their baby to the wolves. I was very high by the time they showed up and I had no idea there would be a baby present that evening. I also had no idea they dropped acid. No one mentioned this fact to me. So am I supposed to walk up to them and say, "Excuse me, are you going to be able to take care of your child this evening or should I watch him for you?" I didn't expect to be there very long either. Also, Fred, Jill, guy, and Kreg went into the back yard alone because they were intimate friends and had a lot of catching up to do (at least, this is what Fred told me). I remained inside and chatted with a cute Asian girl and waited for them all to return.
Sorry if I'm over reacting in this post, but I guess I am fighting guilt a bit. I was thinking that if I had kept an eagle eye on Guy than maybe he would still be breathing, but that's just my mind eating itself. This statement is a repost (for those who havent read through the thread and wish to say they would have been superman in my situation without knowing any of the details).
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: blissedout]
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No doubt! This thread fucked my whole head up!
Jesus!
mine too
i spent the first three years of my sons life in and out of a childrens hospital
the fear of losing him due to HEALTH reasons loomed every single moment of my life
i cant fathom a loss due to such a fucked up situation
this story actually made me cry , and brought back all the demons i faced back then
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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Plus, lemme tell ya something. That same shit coulda and woulda happened without the fucking LSD. Was the fucking dawg on LSD? I think not. Would a couple dance in the moonlight with a new born baby with no LSD? Uh, fuck yeah. It's real easy to claim they were "tards" or that they killed their fucking baby but that's all just utter bullshit and none of you have any fucking idea what it must be like for them, and you should just shut your fucking mouths!
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I feel really sorry for your pain Crow, and Guy's death. This whole situation has got me thinking about parenting and how so many people treat it like a little game or something. I personally have made the choice to not even think about kids until I'm 30 (about ten years away).
Kreg and Jill were maybe a little bit older than I. They used WIC to support the child, as they had no (legal, taxable) income being traveling dealers.
I think that until I've got myself figured out, there is no way I am bringing another, dependant human life into the picture.
To all the good parents out there, Thank you! Even if your kids don't appreciate all you've done for them, at least you've got them into adulthood.
RIP GUY
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
#5864538 - 07/16/06 09:21 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, the milk that wic buys is just as good as any other as far as I know. I can't see why feeding a baby milk purchased with wic vouchers makes someone a bad parent either.
Perhaps taken along with the "traveling dealers" stab it almost sounds good enough to print in a newspaper. 
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Plus, lemme tell ya something. That same shit coulda and woulda happened without the fucking LSD. Was the fucking dawg on LSD? I think not. Would a couple dance in the moonlight with a new born baby with no LSD? Uh, fuck yeah. It's real easy to claim they were "tards" or that they killed their fucking baby but that's all just utter bullshit and none of you have any fucking idea what it must be like for them, and you should just shut your fucking mouths!
So...let me get this strait. You don't think it's pretty retarded for both parents to dose in a backyard with a chained-up dog in it without asking anyone to watch the babe/telling anyone they planned on tripping?
I agree it must be terrible for them and in an earlier post I said that I don't think they should go to jail, but what they did was irresponsible, juvenile, shortsighted, and yes, retarded.
This understandably stirs up strong emotions, but I think any attacks on people who are saying the parents acted foolishly are unwarranted on your part.
Yeah, the milk that wic buys is just as good as any other as far as I know. I can't see why feeding a baby milk purchased with wic vouchers makes someone a bad parent either.
Perhaps taken along with the "traveling dealers" stab it almost sounds good enough to print in a newspaper.
Dude, what is your problem? First of all, how is traveling dealers a stab?! That's how they made their living? Should I call them consciousness-expanding merchants?
Also, about the WIC, they HAD plenty of money to support the child, but they wanted to irresponsibly siphon off taxpayers dollars to feed their child who they seemed to treat more like a toy than a little person.
I have no idea why you are getting so aggressive with me, jeez.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
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Someone please explain to me how this couple did anything wrong again...
Other than they were tripping when it happened...
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Plus, lemme tell ya something. That same shit coulda and woulda happened without the fucking LSD. Was the fucking dawg on LSD? I think not. Would a couple dance in the moonlight with a new born baby with no LSD? Uh, fuck yeah. It's real easy to claim they were "tards" or that they killed their fucking baby but that's all just utter bullshit and none of you have any fucking idea what it must be like for them, and you should just shut your fucking mouths!
I'll admit I didn't read the original post yet(and I'm not sure I want too) but I like what u said here...I know I could take care of a baby even on high doses of lsd...I never have and I never will but I KNOW I could...so I'm sure these parents thought they could as well and really don't think there parenting skills even come into play when it was the dog that attacked(unless they dangled the baby in front of it)...the only way the lsd might have been involved is if the dog was on edge because he sensed that ppl were trippin...but again I haven't read the original post so I can't really comment yet
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Someone please explain to me how this couple did anything wrong again...
Other than they were tripping when it happened...
Read the above post, it's been edited.
In my opinion that's like asking, after a traffic accident where a guy accidentally hit a child and killed her,
"Could someone please explain to me what the guy did wrong...
Other than he was recklessly driving his car when it happened..."
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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My claim is that it would have happened with or without the LSD.
There is NO WAY that you can tell me that had they NOT been on LSD the girl would not have accidentally tripped on the same stone or whatever and dropped the baby straight into the arms of death.
If they were not on LSD, the baby would likely still be tragically dead, but they would still be "good parents". Do you catch my drift here?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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My claim is that it would have happened with or without the LSD.
There is NO WAY that you can tell me that had they NOT been on LSD the girl would not have accidentally tripped on the same stone or whatever and dropped the baby straight into the arms of death.
If they were not on LSD, the baby would likely still be tragically dead, but they would still be "good parents". Do you catch my drift here?
Yes, I understand what you're saying, but you have to understand that LSD was THE contributing factor to the way they were "dancing to and fro" and getting the dog all riled up. I seriously doubt ANYONE in their right mind would antagonize a chained up dog with their infant. I don't think LSD is to blame, but I would bet a large sum of money that if acid had not come into the picture in such an irresponsible way that Guy would still be breathing.
There's no way around it: tripping with your infant in an unsafe environment is BAD PARENTING.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
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So hard to argue against that. I'm sure their baby has already forgiven them though.
There's far too many "ifs" here, and there is no such thing as a "safe environment" either really. (unless you specifically design and create one, and then you can simply grin and cross your fucking fingers that everything will go according to the plan.)
And presuming to judge those poor people's character (souls) against this incident which you, for the most part just people, know very little to nothing about, has apparently, sadly enough, left many of you longing for hope for your own.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mitchnast]
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They walked up to the face of god and pissed in it.
Hmmm...Only god can say for sure... Has he asked for you to deliver him a towel?
Hey, like I say brother, I'd recommend treading extremely lightly here.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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So hard to argue against that. I'm sure their baby has already forgiven them though.
That doesn't exactly make a lot of sense.
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There's far too many "ifs" here, and there is no such thing as a "safe environment" either really.
Perhaps not, but there is such a thing as assuming responsibility for oneself, and, more importantly, those who rely on you in such a manner. There is absolutely no aspect of this story, a couple taking their baby to a party, taking acid, and dancing around in the backyard with their baby in the air, within proximity of a chained up Rottweiler, that suggests that they were not bad parents.
I'm sorry, but I have never heard a story like this, presumably because most people do not wave their infant around a dog like a fucking Beggin Wrap while on drugs, eh? Extremely bad judgement on their part. It may have not been intentional, but it certainly cannot be described as an "accident".
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
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i think here something like that would carry a 'wilful neglect causing death' charge
maybe manslaughter
they probably plead that they didnt know they were endangering the baby because they were high too
the dog owner could be charged if he didnt have a 'beware of the dog' sign somewhere too
whatever happened my heart goes out to them no matter how stupid they were
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
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So hard to argue against that. I'm sure their baby has already forgiven them though.
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That doesn't exactly make a lot of sense.
It makes perfect sense. Think about it 2 or 3 trillion times if that's what it takes.
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Perhaps not, but there is such a thing as assuming responsibility for oneself, and, more importantly, those who rely on you in such a manner.
Yes, there is indeed such a thing. Why don't you try it? The "assuming responsibility for oneself" part I mean.
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There is absolutely no aspect of this story, a couple taking their baby to a party, taking acid, and dancing around in the backyard with their baby in the air, within proximity of a chained up Rottweiler, that suggests that they were not bad parents.
But, it's not a matter that you can decide on. You were not inside their minds at the time were you? You were'nt there, they were. The parents will therefore ultimately decide for themselves if they truly did anything wrong.
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I'm sorry, but I have never heard a story like this, presumably because most people do not wave their infant around a dog like a fucking Beggin Wrap while on drugs, eh? Extremely bad judgement on their part. It may have not been intentional, but it certainly cannot be described as an "accident".
See above.
Peace back to you as well. 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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It makes perfect sense. Think about it 2 or 3 trillion times if that's what it takes.
I try not to get stuck in irrational thought loops, sorry. 
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Yes, there is indeed such a thing.
There clearly was not in this situation, otherwise the baby would still be alive.
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But, it's not a matter that you can decide on. You were not inside their minds at the time were you? You were'nt there, they were. The parents will therefore ultimately decide for themselves if they did anything wrong.
Are you proposing that no one else can review the situation and its objective aspects that have been shared with us and discern whether or not the parents did not uphold the responsibility they were charged with by having a child?
Regardless of what they decide, I am free to make the decision to interpret their behavior as fatally irresponsible, as I am sure nearly everyone else here has made that decision as well. We were not there, but that does not mean we are not allowed to think rationally about the situation.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Bad parents maybe not. Stupid and irresponsible, yes. I'm sure whatever the judgement handed down in court will not be greater then the fact that they know that they basically killed their own child by being stupid. Hopefully they will not make excuses.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Yes, there is indeed such a thing. Why don't you try it? The "assuming responsibility for oneself" part I mean.
Excuse me? In what manner have I not assumed responsibility for myself?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5864737 - 07/16/06 11:21 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are you fucking serious? It doesn't matter if they would have done the same thing sober. They were not sober, so they should have left their child with a babysitter or (gasp!) STAYED SOBER. They are irresponsible and awful parents and to say otherwise shows a lot about the person saying so.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5864739 - 07/16/06 11:22 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also, their baby can not forgive them because he is dead.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
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Yes, there is indeed such a thing. Why don't you try it? The "assuming responsibility for oneself" part I mean.
Excuse me? In what manner have I not assumed responsibility for myself?
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By actively assuming it for someone else, the parents...
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
#5864756 - 07/16/06 11:28 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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A chick trips and falls and oops OMG dropped the baby, but it just so happens death has its arms held out at that particular time...
Judging the parents "bad" anything based just on that shit there puts you on the brink of hell if you ask me. And you immediately lose any assumptions of credibility for you that I may have had prior.
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Also, their baby can not forgive them because he is dead.
He is alive and playing with the angels right now young man.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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A chick trips and falls and oops OMG dropped the baby, but it just so happens death has its arms held out at that particular time...
Judging the parents "bad" anything based just on that shit there puts you on the brink of hell if you ask me. And you immediately lose any assumptions of credibility for you that I may have had prior.
Don't be a damn fool. WHen you're flying high on LSD, having a raucous fun dance party, your attention span is going to be a little splintered, fractured, fractalized. A parent in a completely sober state of mind is more likely to place their attention almost fully on the fact that they are caring for a child.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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So you don't think that a strong psychedelic drug had anything to do with dropping the baby?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Redstorm]
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I can actually see Micro's side here...the horror!! 
If the dog wasn't there, we wouldn't have heard this story.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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By actively assuming it for someone else, the parents...
So I'm suspossed to say to myself "All right, they were responsible, it was just an accident"; otherwise, I am, myself, irresponsible.
Wow. I'm not even going to go any further than that, as this is not the time nor the place for full fledged discussion in such a manner.
I would add, however, that the fact that they were on drugs certainly does fit into the equation as well. Ask anyone here if it is responsible or recommended to drive vehicles around while tripping, or anything similar to that. Why is that? Why would we feel it is irresponsible to be full of acid, at a party, with one's infant, waving it around in a backyard, next to a Rottweiler on a chain? I'm sorry, but I have not given up any responsibility to myself by analyzing the situation and coming to the conclusion that responsibility to their child's life was thrown out the window by them.
And if such a rationale is going to consider myself or anyone else to not have credibility as a result of reaching that conclusion, then oh well. 
Children are not trip toys, I'm afraid to say, and reality has thrust this terrible example of this principle into our faces. The best thing to do is realize it.
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I imagine they will be charged with murder or something. Talk about bad parents. I would not be surprised if they go insane from having their child killed while on acid, finding out about it on acid and knowing that it is their fault the baby is dead because they were on acid.
Maybe I am an asshole for saying the above stuff. I feel bad for them.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
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And if such a rationale is going to consider myself or anyone else to not have credibility as a result of reaching that conclusion, then oh well.
Children are not trip toys, I'm afraid to say, and reality has thrust this terrible example of this principle into our faces. The best thing to do is realize it.
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I can actually see Micro's side here...the horror!!
If the dog wasn't there, we wouldn't have heard this story.
Regardless of the position of the dog or any other possible threat to the child's well being, even if the child was never harmed, the parents were still being irresponsible, and this should be clear to all who delve into the psychadelic world. The series of events was such that the child ended up dying as a result of that irresponsibility.
Simiarily, if the dog had been there, but the parents had been responsible, the child would have still been alive. I do not undrestand why splitting hairs on this one should be necessary.
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Not an asshole at all, 'cause it's probably not far from the truth at all. Like I've said a few times in this thread, I've had some insane moments while tripping balls and I can't even fathom what the death of your infant child would be like tripping. It's so far away from my reality I can't even get an idea of what it must have been like...
**quick reply, I suck at the shroomery.**
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quick reply, LOL
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quick reply, LOL
Yep. 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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My claim is that it would have happened with or without the LSD.
There is NO WAY that you can tell me that had they NOT been on LSD the girl would not have accidentally tripped on the same stone or whatever and dropped the baby straight into the arms of death.
If they were not on LSD, the baby would likely still be tragically dead, but they would still be "good parents". Do you catch my drift here?
Negligence is negligence, whether it occurs under the influence or not.
If the mother was speeding in a car along a winding road with her baby crawling around the front seat & she crashed, it is true that it could have happened whether she had been drinking/drugging or not. Whether it would have happened is irrelevant, as she was deliberately neglecting her responsibility to be pro-active in caring for her infant child.
Is the question here really whether a sober parent would dance within reach of a chained Rottweiler while holding their infant? IMO the real question is whether any concerned parent would engage in such risky behavior, whether or not their coordination and reflexes were impaired.
It is also questionable whether taking LSD (or any other extreme mind-altering substance) without a sober adult present to babysit is responsible parenting behavior. Accidents do happen, and protecting a helpless infant is a 24/7 job. If it is not safe to drive, go to work, use sharp knives, etc...while tripping, then it is certainly not safe to care for an infant.
This may eventually be called an accidental death by the authorities, but (again, IMO) the events which led to little Guy's death were the result of very poor judgment and neglect of parental responsibility.
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Don't be a damn fool.
Thankfully, I'm not the one currently being vainly accused of that in absentia by a mock jury of "shroomery Pubbers".
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WHen you're flying high on LSD, having a raucous fun dance party, your attention span is going to be a little splintered, fractured, fractalized.
They were celebrating the infant itself in the moonight, if I read it correctly. In a yard that they may have mistaken as "safe" because it was supposed to be safe, it was a backyard right? Most people would assume that the backyard at a house they were visiting would be "safe".
I can't envision them as being directly responsible for this, as some would seem to suggest with their balls to the fuckin' wall character assassination ploys.
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A parent in a completely sober state of mind is more likely to place their attention almost fully on the fact that they are caring for a child.
And pigs are more likely to whistle on tuesdays than any other day.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Veritas]
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Nice reply, very reasonable.
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i have to say that rotties are an evil dog btw
i rememeber years ago when my first daughter was born,my mrs went into her room to check on her and there was a damn rottie just sitting at her bedroom window looking at her while she slept.
about five years ago the people behind us had 3 or 4 rotties and they were actually trying to tunnel their way under the fence where my kids were,i only noticed the tunnel because i noticed how excited the dogs got when my kids went out the back to play,the council thought it was serious enough too because they made them get rid of them within a week
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: quiver]
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I don't think any breed of dog is evil by nature.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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They were celebrating the infant itself in the moonight, if I read it correctly. In a yard that they may have mistaken as "safe" because it was supposed to be safe, it was a backyard right? Most people would assume that the backyard at a house they were visiting would be "safe".
Most people would not make careless assumptions about the risks to their infants... most people would not be altered by acid, dancing around a backyard at a party with their infant in the first place. Completely irresponsible.
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Most people would not make careless assumptions about the risks to their infants... most people would not be altered by acid, dancing around a backyard at a party with their infant in the first place. Completely irresponsible.
It's a romantic notion, the idea of the hippie mother and father, dancing in the moonlight, like a modern day Adam and Eve, celebrating the life of their beloved child in a celebration of color, sound, and life.
Until you drop your baby...because you're on acid.
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Sounds like anti-acid episode of the war on drug campaign. 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Veritas]
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If it is not safe to drive, go to work, use sharp knives, etc...while tripping, then it is certainly not safe to care for an infant.
I could do all four, at the same time, tripping balls, probably while balancing a peanut shell on my nose.
I do hope you eventually get my point, and realize the validity of my statements.
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Sounds like anti-acid episode of the war on drug campaign.
...except it actually occurred.
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I don't think any breed of dog is evil by nature.
i do,the things eyes go red and that has to do with rage i think
bred or not thats just my opinion of that breed
i dont know about that tho,rotties arent stupid and i think theyd realize that most people crap their pants when they go near them so maybe some turn rogue
maybe theyre always hungry too because some owners dont realize how much they eat
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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If it is not safe to drive, go to work, use sharp knives, etc...while tripping, then it is certainly not safe to care for an infant.
I could do all four, at the same time, tripping balls, probably while balancing a peanut shell on my nose.
I do hope you eventually get my point.
Wow! You should go on Letterman!
I get your point, I just completely disagree with it.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: quiver]
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That is one cute, secure little baby!
Technology certainly is amazing, as well... If there's a will, there's a...
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Most people would not make careless assumptions about the risks to their infants... most people would not be altered by acid, dancing around a backyard at a party with their infant in the first place. Completely irresponsible.
It's a romantic notion, the idea of the hippie mother and father, dancing in the moonlight, like a modern day Adam and Eve, celebrating the life of their beloved child in a celebration of color, sound, and life.
Until you drop your baby...because you're on acid.
And at that point it's your fault, because you're on acid. Normally they would have reached down and picked up their baby, but because this time a mean fucking dog was there, and because they were on acid, of course, the dog decided to bite the baby?
That's quite a stretch there. I hope that one day when I can finally afford to call in a limousine, it has a similar one.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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So, ultimately, you agree that they were entirely irresponsible in allowing the situation to be presented to their infant in the first place, then, correct?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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OK I've read through this entire thread, and I guess I have a few things to add to it.
1) You can find LSD in a urine sample, provided you pretty much just took it. I've studied this kind of thing during Gross Anatomy (I'm a medical student) and we did a section on detection of drugs in the system post-mortem. So, I guess that is a reply to an earlier reply made, in which one of you questioned if they would be doing a blood test to check for LSD in a manslaughter case.
2) My fiance is a law student and I discussed this with him. He believes that if this case were to be prosecuted, the charge against the parents would be Criminal Neglect. However, that has nothing to do with anything unless the state actually decides to prosecute the parents, which they may not.
3) I know this post is causing a lot of fucked up emotions in everyone and you guys are all entitled to your own opinion, but Microcosmatrix, I think you might need to calm down a little bit. Your posts are really making me uncomfortable (and a few other people on the message board have voiced this to me as well, although they don't want to get involved) and I think that your views are a little skewed. However, like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions...but some should just be kept to yourself.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
#5864910 - 07/16/06 12:14 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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My two boys loved hanging out in their Snugli packs when they were tiny, and in a baby backpack when they got a bit taller.
If I needed to work around the house & could not directly supervise them, I'd Snugli them & keep them safe. If I was out with them & could not arrange the environment to my standards of safety, they would be in their Snugli.
This is not rocket science, folks, just pro-active parenting. You assume that you need to watch and protect your infant ALL THE TIME, and that no situation is 100% safe. (Whether you are in an altered state or not.)
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
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If by "the situation", you mean "life on Earth", then yes. They were completely irresponsible for bringing the baby here to planet Earth.
Other than that, I can't say for sure, only god knows.
You heard it here first.
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You can find LSD in a urine sample, provided you pretty much just took it. I've studied this kind of thing during Gross Anatomy (I'm a medical student) and we did a section on detection of drugs in the system post-mortem. So, I guess that is a reply to an earlier reply made, in which one of you questioned if they would be doing a blood test to check for LSD in a manslaughter case.
I call bullshit on that.
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However, that has nothing to do with anything unless the state actually decides to prosecute the parents, which they may not.
Can the state up the charge if if can infact be proven they were tripping? There has been no confirmation from the OP that the parents admitted they were tripping. Unless I missed it in the 150+ replies.
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However, like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions...but some should just be kept to yourself.
Who are you to say that to ANYBODY? Do everyone on this planet a favor and never ever say that again.
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Easy now, I'd like to NOT close this thread... let's all be respectful of each other and take a step back from the situation.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5864934 - 07/16/06 12:23 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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My one really clearly and perhaps overly stated point though, is that I don't know/can't say for sure, and neither can any of you unless you were there. That's peace.
So, peace then. I've spoken the truth to the best of my abilities so far today, and hopefully some of you may appreciate it.
My prayers are with the family.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
#5864935 - 07/16/06 12:23 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's part of my personality to defend the right of everybody to say anything they want, whenever they want. Not because it's in the constitution, but because we all have the mental capacity to use and decipher symbolic mouth noises.
Words are not offensive, interpretations of them are.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5864949 - 07/16/06 12:27 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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A few points
1) This is NOT the dog's fault...give me a fucking break, although that is a convenient cop-out to relieve yourself of guilt (as Kreg tried to do immediately after the event). The parents are complete idiots, there is no sense in defending them.
2) Certain breeds of dogs are not evil, nor do red eyes indicate "rage" in a dog. There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners.
3) LSD DID have a role in this death. However, the blame is on the user, not the drug.
4) Who is to say the child wasn't fucked from the first drop, before the dog even came into the picture? I wonder who some would be looking to blame if the baby had died from impact to the ground.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5864963 - 07/16/06 12:29 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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My only really point though, is that I don't know/can't say for sure, and neither can any of you unless you were there. That's peace.
As long as we can trust that the basic elements of what occured have been accurately relayed to us, then it is simple to reach the conclusion that the well-being of the child had not been responsibility looked after, otherwise it would have not died. That is an entirely reasonable conclusion. It wasn't an accident. It was clearly unintentional (although, then again, we can's say for sure, now can we, since we were not there? ); however, the dog was chained. Perhaps if the dog had jumped through the window of a home in which the infant was securely sleeping snug in his crib and attacked, well, fuck, that's an accident, that would pretty much be beyond the responsibility of the parents.
However, the dog was chained, the parents were within the immediate proximity of the considerably sized dog, they were in an altered state of mind..... irresponsible. I do not think a sane individual could argue agansit this.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
#5864967 - 07/16/06 12:30 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would blame the ground for irresponsibly being in the way. 
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
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The parents are complete idiots, there is no sense in defending them.
I'm glad your shirt is so white, what detergent are you using?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5864977 - 07/16/06 12:33 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hydrogen Peroxide Tide.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
#5864978 - 07/16/06 12:33 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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why do their eyes go red then?
lsd maybe?
seriously why do their eyes go red?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: quiver]
#5864987 - 07/16/06 12:37 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quick answers.com revealed "The red color comes from light that reflects off of the retinas in our eyes. In many animals, including dogs, cats and deer, the retina has a special reflective layer called the tapetum lucidum that acts almost like a mirror at the backs of their eyes."
Interesting, I'll read more
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
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fireworks_god said:
Most people would not make careless assumptions about the risks to their infants... most people would not be altered by acid, dancing around a backyard at a party with their infant in the first place. Completely irresponsible.
It's a romantic notion, the idea of the hippie mother and father, dancing in the moonlight, like a modern day Adam and Eve, celebrating the life of their beloved child in a celebration of color, sound, and life.
Until you drop your baby...because you're on acid.
Nail..on..head!
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Penguarky Tunguin said:
I can actually see Micro's side here...the horror!!
If the dog wasn't there, we wouldn't have heard this story.
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And they still would have been fuck up parents.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
#5865013 - 07/16/06 12:47 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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If the dog wasn't there, you would still have two parents who were temporairaly- by choice- incapacitated to perform thier parenting responsibilites.
2 parents on acid = bad parenting choices.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
#5865015 - 07/16/06 12:47 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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fireworks_god said:
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Microcosmatrix said:
My only really point though, is that I don't know/can't say for sure, and neither can any of you unless you were there. That's peace.
As long as we can trust that the basic elements of what occured have been accurately relayed to us, then it is simple to reach the conclusion that the well-being of the child had not been responsibility looked after, otherwise it would have not died. That is an entirely reasonable conclusion. It wasn't an accident. It was clearly unintentional (although, then again, we can's say for sure, now can we, since we were not there? ); however, the dog was chained. Perhaps if the dog had jumped through the window of a home in which the infant was securely sleeping snug in his crib and attacked, well, fuck, that's an accident, that would pretty much be beyond the responsibility of the parents.
However, the dog was chained, the parents were within the immediate proximity of the considerably sized dog, they were in an altered state of mind..... irresponsible. I do not think a sane individual could argue agansit this.
Peace.
O.K. irresponsible. But in the degree nescessary to charge them with a crime, trash their characters on a messageboard they cannot even see during a time in that family's lives which is now completely shattered and at which time as they are experiencing a pain and suffering which you cannot possibly even begin to comprehend for them? While you all chirp along like bloodstain scholars or something... What is this world coming to? Shame on you all who have not offered this ENTIRE family your best fucking vibe.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
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Right. But my statement still stands. Even if they dropped the baby, the OP wouldn't have heard about it and this thread would not exist.
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Dropping an infant is dangerous, even when a worked-up Rottweiler is not nearby. Even "dancing" an infant around too vigorously could cause Shaken-Baby Syndrome if his brain bounced off the inside of his skull.
This story might not have been shocking enough to post at the Shroomery without the dog involved, but it could still have resulted in brain damage or fatal injury to the baby.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Veritas]
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Well said.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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*starts sending waves of "feel better" vibes to the family*
Seriously, though, it is our responsibility to outright condemn the nature of this situation for the benefit of others who frequent this forum, who might have kids or may some day have kids, who may take drugs and impose risks on those kids lives.
Someone in P&S earlier today expressed a thought that began with "when I'm driving on mushrooms...". Do you think stupid people aren't around to pick up on stupid shit? I have sympathy for the parents, but you know what - they deserve the hell they are going through.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5865033 - 07/16/06 12:55 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree that there is no reason to trash the parents' characters in this thread. However, discussing their behavior could encourage someone else to think twice before they make similar choices, or allow their friends to engage in risky behavior while caring for an infant.
I can barely imagine the agony of losing a beloved child, much less the guilt of being involved in any way in that child's death. I feel compassion for them, AND I want to discuss the decisions they made which led up to a heartbreaking situation.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Veritas]
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I mean, how hard is it to put the little guy in a sling/wrap, anyway? He damn sure won't fall out of that! This shit is just fucked up! I dreamed about it last night, after reading about it.
RIP Guy. I wonder what meaning you had in this world, in your short time.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
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CherryBom said:
2 parents on acid = bad parenting choices.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
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Good point. But in a case such as this, an autopsy could prove the cause of death and I assume an autopsy was done just because the original post-er said the child died in the ambulance from blood loss. If a full autopsy was done the full extent of injuries sustained during the original fall could be determined; the child might not have been "fucked" after all.
And just for the person who said they could bullshit the claim that you can find LSD in a urine sample:
LSD stays detectable in your system for 8-24 hours. Most employers don't test for it, and there is an urban myth that you can only find it in spinal fluid. This information is readily available on the internet if you would like to double check.
And yeah, dancing around vigorously could cause SBS, but that all depends on how they were dancing.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
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Awwwww...nice to see your cute little boy in his sling.
Our little ones place so much trust in us...the least we can do is protect their fragile bodies while they are in our care.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
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Maybe he fullfilled what he came here for by teaching us the importance of good parenting?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
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Feel better vibes? Are you..kidding me? They are not going to feel better any time soon unless they die too in a freak explosion at the jail, or unless the world ends.
But I'll send my prayers out to them au gratis anyhow instead of sitting here on an anonymous webforum with you blasting them with the furious E-spitballs of clueless teenagers that can't think of anything else to do but assign some blame like you're writing someone a speeding ticket and probably haven't quite yet totally mastered the fine art of tying your own shoelaces.
Maybe I'm just different. Please just leave me alone so I can cry some more.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5865082 - 07/16/06 01:13 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry, I re-read what I typed and see what you're saying. I guess I am harsh when it comes to such preventable, horrible situations. I was trying to say that the development of the child would be greatly negatively impacted, dead or not, from the initial drop. The child's quality of life would have reduced, whether the dog event happened at all. Then, the idiotic acts of the parents would still be inexcusable.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
#5865093 - 07/16/06 01:18 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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70% tragic accident
15% the fault of the parents for supervising their kid while drugged up
15% the fault of the parents for having their child near a chained up dog
Child neglect charges should be filed. I suggest about a year in jail for both of them.
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Maybe he fullfilled what he came here for by teaching us the importance of good parenting?
He definitely irreversably changed some lives, that's for sure! Everything happens for a reason, even if it's building towards ultimate chaos. I wonder what now becomes of the parents. Poor, foolish souls. I feel for them. We are all fools, but putting your own flesh and blood before a party/celebration should be top priority. That's natural instinct in all animals. Humans aren't any different. Some of us would like to think we were, but it's not true.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
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Young life is where a person is most acceptable to long lasting trauma to the psyche. It is revertible but its something that manifests over time till the person comes to terms and figures out how to fix it with self work.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
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I agree, Organic. Whether he had sustained a severe (or minor for that matter) injury on said night or not, can one really say whether or not this might have happened again? If there hadn't been a dog in the picture, the child might have just been scooped up like nothing had happened only to be dropped again later. Or maybe put in an even worse situation on a different day. There are multiple scenarios to consider, but at this point sadly enough, none of them matter
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Maybe he fullfilled what he came here for by teaching us the importance of good parenting?
That's DAMN tough lesson to learn. Lots of work went into that one...
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
#5865108 - 07/16/06 01:22 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maybe they caught a communal vibe to the party? Some animals such as monkeys often share the duty of caring for the children.
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It would be nice to think so, but such wasn't the case, I don't think.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
#5865120 - 07/16/06 01:24 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did I miss the news story link?
Surely this has hit the papers at least, I'm not finding anything on Google News.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
#5865121 - 07/16/06 01:24 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am searching for it, too.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5865129 - 07/16/06 01:29 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Microcosmatrix said:
Maybe I'm just different. Please just leave me alone so I can cry some more.
I'm not going to assume your intent, but I guess we'll wait and find that one out soon enough..
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5865131 - 07/16/06 01:29 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh I'm sorry, I forgot to reply to a repost made on one of my comments.
If it can be proved that the parents were on LSD, I'm not really sure if the charges could be made more severe. However, I do remember the original post-er saying that as soon as the police arrived the father of the child readily admitted that he had been on LSD. As long as he never retracted that statement, there really is no need for physical evidence that he was under the influence.
Maybe the charges could be raised from Criminal Neglect to Man 2, but that's really just speculation on my part. Like I said earlier, it all depends on whether the state even wants to prosecute. And even if they did want to raise charges to Man 2, the defense lawyer could be able to talk them down and cop a deal with minimal jail time.
I honestly think that if the state WAS to prosecute, they might also tack on some drug charges to it.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5865137 - 07/16/06 01:31 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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You would hope the state had the heart to let the couple just wallow in their misery in the comfort of their friends and family, not in an isolated jail cell.
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I can't find the story in any of the Texas news for the past 30 days. Surely there would be something about it!?
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
#5865156 - 07/16/06 01:38 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Matters under investigation sometimes don't appear right away. But it is definately my fondest wish that we have all been victim of a cruel hoax.
And I realize that what I have been saying is being viewed as actually offensive sounding by some, but I don't feel like coating anything with honey today.
Part of the reason is that I was tripping when I read this thread and so it happened to hit me with the force and clarity of a wrecking ball.
I still says peace and love only to that family, right now!
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5865191 - 07/16/06 01:47 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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This occurred in Maryland, in a suburb of Annapolis. I have no idea about how/if this will be covered in the media. I haven't spoken to a reporter yet, and neither has anyone else to my knowledge. But that's just what I know.
Nice to see you come around Matrix...and admit that you were totally wrong in everything you said before
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5865197 - 07/16/06 01:48 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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It still would have hit the news, by now. The media eats this kind of shit up! The 'War on Drugs' people wait for shit like this to happen, so they can show how EVIL drugs are and how great they are for exposing that great truth. There has to be an article somewhere.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
#5865243 - 07/16/06 02:00 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I searched GoogleNews and there's nothing there. Fred and I are interested in finding it so that we can find out what happened to Jill and Kreg.
The only reason I posted this in the first place was that I was pretty fucked up about it and writing always helps calm me down. Also, I thought that the shroomers may be able to learn a bit from "a drug trip gone bad."
If anyone finds anything out, please send me a PM and let me know.
I'm going on vacation fairly soon and don't know how much info I'll be able to gather, but I'll keep you posted if/when I learn anything new.
Peace out.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5865261 - 07/16/06 02:03 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool. Thanks. I called the Annapolis Capitol Gazette, but it's Sunday and I got the answering machine, in the news room. I'll try tomorrow.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
#5865267 - 07/16/06 02:05 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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In Maryland??? Jesus, I'm like not far from Annapolis at all. That scares me just a bit. I would have thought with all of the drug crap going on here (especially where I live, near Baltimore) that I would have seen something on the news, read something in the paper, etc. Whether or not it is still under investigation doesn't matter, you almost always see SOMETHING like right after it happens...
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5865294 - 07/16/06 02:09 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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From what I gathered, it happened on the 14th. Any help with a link would be appreciated. I'll try again, tomorrow.
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
#5865371 - 07/16/06 02:26 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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bliss.. let us know what you hear when you call on monday!
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
#5865468 - 07/16/06 02:50 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
This occurred in Maryland
More bad news.
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