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 Surface Area vs. Depth 
#5248673 - 01/31/06 10:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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so what yeilds the most? a substrate that is 5 inches deep, or a substrate 2 inches deep, both with the same about of nutrients.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: AliceDee]
#5248705 - 01/31/06 11:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are a lot of other variables involved but I'm inclined to say the substrate that's 5 inches deep. Of course other factors come in to play.....
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: AliceDee]
#5248707 - 01/31/06 11:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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under identical conditions they should yeild the same
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: AliceDee]
#5248719 - 01/31/06 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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its usually best to increase surface area as long as you won't be laying shit too thin. if you fill your surface space and have more shit to work with, go deeper.
so yeah, fill available surface are and then go deeper after that point.
its the same volume of water/nutes, but one is deeper and another has more surface area. more suface area means more space for mushrooms to grow off of. deeper usually means bigger mushrooms. more surface area usually yeilds more total weight.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5248777 - 01/31/06 11:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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under identical conditions they should yeild the same
Really....I don't doubt you. But I would have thought 5' would produce bigger then a smaller one. I don't think there would be more or less either way.
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Rev. Paul AKA the man says that mushrooms can draw nutrients from up to 2 ft deep in the casing! Deeper casings make bigger mushrooms, but increaced chances of contam's during colonization.
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Snag, they are saying that you use the same volume of substrate, just at a different thickness so more surface area is available.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: Jaeger]
#5248906 - 01/31/06 11:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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DUH.......thanks I missed that  
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Surface Area! It has always been my favorite. All you need is 2 inches to get dense mushroom growth like this:
This will always be an arguable debate, but thats my personal preference, when I have more poo, I spread it out more..
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: scatmanrav]
#5248959 - 01/31/06 11:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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like i said, go for surface area first unless you go below like 2 inches of poo. once you max out surface area, go deeper.
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^^I'd have to agree with that. And, don't feel bad Snaggletooth, I made the same mistake!
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: xxanxx]
#5249505 - 02/01/06 02:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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the advantage of surface area is that it should take less number of flushes to use all the nutrients. this means that there is less total time spent fruiting and therfor less chance of contams. however if you are going for big fruits requite deep substrait. but again both should yeild the same when all is said and done.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: skeletor]
#5249513 - 02/01/06 02:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats a good point, I go to get all my harvest in the first flush primarily, and a little in the second. If you add up all the flushes, of both, youd probably get about the same...I like 1-2 flushes though.
And do make sure you go at least the 2 inches, maybe a bit over doesnt hurt, especially if you mix your horse poo with coir, chunky verm, perlite and such non nutritious things to beef it up..but 2-3" works for me.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: scatmanrav]
#5249532 - 02/01/06 02:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Surface Area! It has always been my favorite. All you need is 2 inches to get dense mushroom growth like this:
Absolutely beautiful fruits, and look at that pinset. Picture perfect Scat. I'm going 2" from now on. If it's good enough for Scat and good enough for my girlfriend  it's good enough for me.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: Orranis]
#5249937 - 02/01/06 03:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those two trays won't be the same volume..?
I say surface area for sure, so long as the substrate is ~2" deep, you're fine for 3-4 flushes.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: Orranis]
#5250197 - 02/01/06 08:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Surface area everytime will out produce in the real world.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: hyphae]
#5250307 - 02/01/06 10:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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regardless of Pauls findings, ive always read not to go deeper than 4in.
in my experience, yeilds were almost the same with 1in. to 5in. of substrate. the only big difference was the size of the fruits. i think its safe to say that there is a correlation between depth and mushroom size.
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Re: Surface Area vs. Depth [Re: Omnicracker]
#5250476 - 02/01/06 11:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think a substrate with more depth will give u bigger and more flushes, but not as many shrooms as one with a wider surface area
the bigger surface area probably will have less flushes, and slightly smaller fruits.
however, since they are equal in volume, in the end, they should harvest the same weight.
so i think its just a matter of how many flushes u want.
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