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 My 1st casing's pinset. 1st & 2nd flushes (Photo Journal) 
#4168677 - 05/13/05 12:09 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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My 1st attempt as a true casing finally pinned yesterday! 8 days after placing in terrium. The pins are still pretty small today, but I can tell they are growing!  Here's some photos, and I'll take more as the days go by and they get bigger. Low bandwidth users beware, the full images are about 200K each. I also need to throw out a big THANK YOU! to everyone who's been helping me! Now I just gotta cross my fingers and hope not all of them abhort.
UPDATE: For those wondering, here's my recipe for this casing:
Subtrate is BRF made the PF tek way. Cakes took 28 days to fully colonise. They were given an extra week after that to setup, then dunked overnight in tap water and refridgerated for ~24 hours. Subtrate was cased as outlined below and then put into a PMP with 3 air pumps attached: 2 under damp perlite and one above.
Casing layers are as follows:- ~1/2" moist verm on bottom
- ~2" of crumbled subtrate in middle
- ~1/2" 50/50 mix on top with some oyster shell mixed in.
Temps have been from 70F-80F, humidity ranging from 96%-98%
I'll add updated pics to the original post. Day numbering is from the time of placing casing into terrium.
Day 4 (pre-pin):
Day 7 (close-up of pre-pin surface):
Day 9 (1 day after pins first show):
Day 10:
Day 11:
Day 12:
 
Day 13(1st flush picked. Casing cleaned & patched):
   
175 Grams wet, dried to 18.4 grams
Day 14:
Day 15:
Day 16:
Day 17:
Day 18:
Day 19:
 
Day 20:
 
Day 21(2nd flush picked. Casing cleaned, patched, & Dunked overnight):
 
66.5 Grams wet, dried to 7 Grams
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Edited by kratomboy (05/26/05 11:43 PM)
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 Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (high res pic) [Re: kratomboy]
#4168687 - 05/13/05 12:13 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Looks nice 
Keep it updated 8-)
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (high res pic) [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#4168733 - 05/13/05 12:34 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Fan the shit out of that and congrats, it looks good and even. Soon, soon.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (high res pic) [Re: Photoguy]
#4168789 - 05/13/05 12:49 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Quote:
Photoguy said:
Fan the shit out of that...
I have it in a PMP with 3 air-pumps attached. 2 under-gravel and one pumping right into the open air in the chamber. Should I still fan manualy?
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (high res pic) [Re: kratomboy]
#4169856 - 05/13/05 08:39 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Errrr, maybe? I fan allot as well, even though I have good airflow going. If you can fan and keep the humidity where its suppossed to be at, do it. The fresh air introduction should help out your pinset. Do you have any holes in your PmP?
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (high res pic) [Re: Photoguy]
#4170205 - 05/13/05 11:36 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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kratomboy can you tell me a little more about your casing? What casing mix did you use? Are you using a bulk substrate? What kind of grain did you use? Just curious, looks nice.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (high res pic) [Re: Photoguy]
#4172013 - 05/13/05 07:46 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Photoguy said:
...Do you have any holes in your PmP?
No, I just have the lid ajar a little where the hoses from the pumps enter. Maybe a 1/4" gap on onwe side, tapering down to zero at the other end. I'm thinking of building some sort of adjustable air-hole. Something I can slide back and forth to get more control over humidity (and better air flow)
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (high res pic) [Re: DK1]
#4172026 - 05/13/05 07:48 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
DK1 said:
kratomboy can you tell me a little more about your casing? What casing mix did you use? Are you using a bulk substrate? What kind of grain did you use? Just curious, looks nice.
Thanks! Here's what it's made of:
BRF Subtrate colonised following the PF tek.
~1/2 inch moist verm,
covered by ~2 inches of crumbled subtrate,
covered by ~1/2" 50/50 mix with a little bit of oyster shell added (but no lime).
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (LOG w/high res pics) [Re: kratomboy]
#4172733 - 05/13/05 10:58 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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If I can remember to take pics everyday, I might end up making them into a little time lapse video.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (LOG w/high res pics) [Re: kratomboy]
#4173666 - 05/14/05 06:29 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Beautiful! Same place my first casing is. Amazing how much they change every day. Wish I had a digicam!
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (LOG w/high res pics) [Re: morninggloryseed]
#4176064 - 05/14/05 10:11 PM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
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Beautiful! Same place my first casing is. Amazing how much they change every day. Wish I had a digicam!
Agreed. This is also my first time with a PMP. I think the air exchange is making a LOT of difference in how fast they are growing.
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Question on green mold... [Re: kratomboy]
#4179664 - 05/15/05 09:18 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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So my casing is looking pretty good (from my point of view), but I just discovered a small patch of green mold on an older cake that was in the same terrium. I took it out and disposed of it but now I'm all worried about the green mold attacking my casing!  How likely is this? The cake it was on was sitting right next to my casing. Should I mist everything down with my h2o2/h2o solution? I really REALLY don't want to lose this casing. Any suggestions?
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Re: Question on green mold... [Re: kratomboy]
#4180696 - 05/16/05 01:26 AM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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Maybe wipe the tub down. And if you see green forming on the casing, try throwing some salt on it.
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Re: Question on green mold... [Re: Liquidkick]
#4181289 - 05/16/05 06:23 AM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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you could use boiled tapw or distilled/h20 10% or more for all casing misting and cakes
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4184479 - 05/17/05 12:15 AM (8 years, 6 days ago) |
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1st flush BLOOMED today. I decided to pick before all the spores drop. I think a few might have already. I think the funny looking pattern on some of the caps are spores (see original post for pics), does anyone else recognise it? It wipes off like spores anyway. I'm used to seeing the caps covered, and I think this is just a light dusting. I'll get a final weight posted tomorrow, but looks like it's going to be close to 180 grams wet.
I didn't see any signs of the green mold. I hope it doesn't grab my casing while it's recovering from harvest. I used h2o2/h2o solution to re-wet casing layer.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4184493 - 05/17/05 12:24 AM (8 years, 6 days ago) |
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Nice job... man oh man, I can't believe the difference between day 12 and day 13. Amazing.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: Ol_Mr_Owl]
#4184501 - 05/17/05 12:28 AM (8 years, 6 days ago) |
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Who ever said 13 is an unlucky number! 
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (LOG w/high res pics) [Re: kratomboy]
#4185046 - 05/17/05 03:14 AM (8 years, 6 days ago) |
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hey! nice work. looks great!!
congrats.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset... (LOG w/high res pics) [Re: gratefulredhead]
#4189038 - 05/17/05 11:36 PM (8 years, 5 days ago) |
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nice job!! your caps are open so spores have already been dropping, if you don't want spores all over your place, pick when the cap just starts to open while the cap is still round shaped , or when the veil was just torn 
Edited by tracerz (05/17/05 11:39 PM)
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4192615 - 05/18/05 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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Wet weight of 1st flush was 175 grams. They dried for a couple days with a fan on them (see pic in 1st post), and now they're in with some desiccant. I will post the dry weight as soon as they get cracker dry.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4192621 - 05/18/05 09:21 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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well it looks like you mastered cakes and casings, good job. Piece of cake, isnt it
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: tahoe]
#4192740 - 05/18/05 09:52 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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Yes! ... the only hard part was learning patience. 
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4192752 - 05/18/05 09:54 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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Nice job kratomboy
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4201903 - 05/21/05 01:50 AM (8 years, 2 days ago) |
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If you look at the current pics, you'll see my 2nd flush is pinning. It's not quite as even, and I think it's because of how I patched. I just patched the spots that I pulled from, and sprinkled lightly over those spots I didn't pull from (but not enough to cover them up). Should I have covered the whole surface ?
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4202697 - 05/21/05 09:51 AM (8 years, 2 days ago) |
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When I used to do cakes I would dunk & roll after every flush, but with casings I just patch where I pull.
Some people like to go ahead and add a light casing layer again, and let it colonize for a bit, then fruit like a brand new casing, what ever floats your boat.
Now it's on to bulk for you!
Good job. 
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Edited by o0brandnewcolony (05/21/05 09:52 AM)
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
#4208172 - 05/22/05 11:23 PM (8 years, 19 hours ago) |
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Awesome job man! Very inspiring for me
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. (Pics) UPDATED: 1st flush picked [Re: kratomboy]
#4224395 - 05/26/05 11:27 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's all folks! I'll still flush this as much as I can, but I'm getting too busy now to keep taking pics... and I think I've got enough here for those who want to see some detailed pics of a first time casing. Thanks for all the help!
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. 1st & 2nd flushes (Photo Journal) [Re: kratomboy]
#4225066 - 05/27/05 02:44 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
kratomboy said:
My 1st attempt as a true casing finally pinned yesterday!
You'll get a bigger 2nd and 3rd flush if you don't let the mushrooms spore on your casing.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. 1st & 2nd flushes (Photo Journal) [Re: CaptAmazing]
#4225080 - 05/27/05 02:50 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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You'll get a bigger 2nd and 3rd flush if you don't let the mushrooms spore on your casing.
No nice way to say it. You're an idiot. How do spores stall growth in anyway?
Great job man
Was i the only one that noticed this......
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66.5 Grams wet, dried to 7 Grams
Mushrooms are 92% water. That can't be right.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. 1st & 2nd flushes (Photo Journal) [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#4229002 - 05/28/05 03:29 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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IGnosticAbhorI said:
Was i the only one that noticed this......
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66.5 Grams wet, dried to 7 Grams
Mushrooms are 92% water. That can't be right.
-Gnostic
That's what my scale said. Maybe it's time to re-calibrate it.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. 1st & 2nd flushes (Photo Journal) [Re: kratomboy]
#4229284 - 05/28/05 05:33 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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very nice man. my pinset is nowhere near that. keep up the good work.
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. 1st & 2nd flushes (Photo Journal) [Re: Optx]
#4229289 - 05/28/05 05:38 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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There's more water than mass by 2%...
So logically you can't dry it out and have that much more.
But yeah, nice thread man
Beautiful pinsets
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Re: My 1st casing's pinset. 1st & 2nd flushes (Photo Journal) [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#4235033 - 05/30/05 01:38 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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IGnosticAbhorI said:
There's more water than mass by 2%...
So logically you can't dry it out and have that much more.
I just recalibrated and re-weighed and it came out the same (dry). Isn't there some fluctuations between batches as far as water ratio goes? or is it all basically the same between batches and between strains. Also, I have the air flow in my PMP pointed straight at the casing... so maybe they were already somewhat de-hydrated when I weighed them wet? 
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