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 Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary  [Re: KahSol]
#3709837 - 01/31/05 09:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Personally, I feel like the ego death experience Leary was talking about, is just the beginning of spiritual practice. I have had the egoless trip, but having that as your sole source of spiritual input is like a fly constantly buzzing into the same window, despite the fact that just a few feet away, is a wide open door. I think that Leary's method is just a START of spiritual awakening. I took what I learned from my trips, and started Zen practice. Psychedelics helped me find this. I still love trips, and still aim for ego-loss, but now, I am building a real world practice in which I can further my spiritual self. In fact, just today, I got accepted as a student at a Zen monastery. (Very long process I must say) So I fully plan on continuing my tripping, but as more of a tool and reminder, than an independant quest for enlightenment.
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: Quoiyaien]
#3709956 - 01/31/05 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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(I don't know exactly who I'm replying to)
The Psychadelic Experience is a starting point for trippers, and the entry point for learning about Leary as well. He did write several other books you know.
As for the "Oh intrepid traveler" BS... it is written that way ON PURPOSE. First, that stuff is DIRECTLY translated from the Tibettan text, then Leary gave it his own Merry Prankster spin. Read it with your tongue firmly planted in cheak to find the honesty within. Remember, he is describing the cosmic joke. When it comes to tripping, sometimes you must be silly, to describe it.
To think Leary wasn't aware of how silly many of those poems sound, is to underestimate Leary's ability to communicate.
There is MUCH more to Tim Leary than just the Psychadelic Experience.
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: Cervantes]
#3712316 - 02/01/05 10:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just wanted to jump in and say "Great thread." I'm glad to see some good discussion on these boards.
 
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: bf6]
#3712440 - 02/01/05 11:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok...
Lil' ol' Timmy had his publicity and an awesome life!
Lets also consider another text which is not "fun" but it can set the record straight for many trippers...If you are compeled to read a mixture of buddhism ,psychedelics and..."Merry Pranksters" style book ,then i cannot see why one would not read the following book
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/guides/handbook_lsd25.shtml
Enjoy and Study!
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: Psiloman]
#3714310 - 02/01/05 06:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn man! That link's Old-School!  Nice... I'll keep reading it.
Just one little thought about The Psychadelic Experience:
I like to read the poems MELODRAMATICALLY while tripping.
ie: "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH... Intrepid TRAVELER... Lenny! You are embarking on a journey the LIKES OF WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN!"
It is simple, fun, and if it doesn't work, you all get a good laugh.
That's how I read it... or rather, that's how it tells me to read it while I'm tripping.
I know, it is hard to believe a book as sacred as this is Soooo full of shit, but I swear, those poems are intentionally funny. They are intentionally over the top. They challenge your ego!
If you didn't see the humor in them the first time you read them, perhaps you were taking the whole Psychadelic Experience too seriously. Read 'em again. If you can't find Leary's humor, he's of limited use.
Laughter naturally makes a trip more positive.
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: Cervantes]
#3716994 - 02/02/05 02:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do find Leary very funny. This picture always slays me:
I don't think I've ever seen a happier or more mischievous expression.
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: BeenHereNow]
#3717386 - 02/02/05 04:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That picture's fucking great.
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: Cervantes]
#3718528 - 02/02/05 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The ones who laugh more understand it all more.
Cause it so God Damn funny!
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: mecreateme]
#3718965 - 02/02/05 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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tim's next monograph was _psychedelic prayers_
based on hanging out with several translations of the _tao te ching_ whilst doing the indian trip, grooving on the himalayas, smoking hash everyday & tripping on acid once a week... to sorta keep the psychic windows clear of perceptual cobewbs ur sumfin...
& some of the stanzas still work...
(but i still generally prefer jane english's book, heh...(but dr. tim did sign my beat up ol' copy of _prayers_ hehheh...)
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: gnrm23]
#3720327 - 02/02/05 07:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ANd I don't think that if I was tripping balls, I'd be calmed by hearing my goofy friend say
"O intrepid traveler
you are now entering the third bardo
daemons and angels await..."
i'd seriously crack up...or i might freak out, waiting for those angels and daemons to pop in at any moment. funny though. my friend had that book a long long time ago.
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: greenpastures]
#3720882 - 02/02/05 09:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have YOU read the book?
Context REALLY helps.
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Edited by Cervantes (02/02/05 09:38 PM)
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: Cervantes]
#3729855 - 02/04/05 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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with the help of this reading,
i experienced my best lsd trip.
satori enlightment
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: butterflydawn]
#3730578 - 02/04/05 03:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary [Re: Cervantes]
#3732780 - 02/04/05 11:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like the book alot. I think his perspective of tripping is worth taking a look at. John Lennon was an awesome guy and respected Leary's ways alot for a while. Then he decided to move on. I think it's up to the individual to decide weather or not to strive for complete ego loss, but like someone said that's another game. definitely worth a read.
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