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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society [Re: Phred]
    #3168691 - 09/23/04 04:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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then there'll no longer be any place left to go to get decent medical care.





Come over to the UK, we have plenty of good medecine free and otherwise... You can pay for "the best" but if you cant afford it you dont have to worry.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: CJay]
    #3168933 - 09/23/04 07:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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oh, and please try to deliberately misquote people.... Putting words into their mouths is great, I do it all the time, one might say, I have extremely poor tactics, but it works for me.




wow we agree on something....I have nothing to add to this.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3168941 - 09/23/04 07:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Actually, Innvertigo, I need to correct you on something: The majority of Muslims do not live in the Middle East. Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world,




that's true, however i'm using the middle east as a genuality, from the Sudan to Afganistan and the other "Stans" in Russia.

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I'd say the Middle East is where you tend to find the majority of Muslim extremists, which is one of the main reasons why people tend to associate Islam with that region.




very true, thanks for the correction, what's funny is that i'm talking about the extremists.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Zahid]
    #3168944 - 09/23/04 07:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Jesus, Allah, Yhwh, anything would be good for retread.




The last thing that a nutjob like retread needs is any kind of religion.

In fact it seems to me its the last thing any of us need.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Zahid]
    #3168949 - 09/23/04 07:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Your ignorance of Islam is fairly obvious. Only 18% of Muslims in the world are actually Arab. Keep tryin', kid.




That's why my original question mentions Muslims, maybe i should write it in arabic next time (arab is a genuality junior) noone cares about the sutble differences.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3168951 - 09/23/04 07:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What have several million bending-over five times a day whackadoos contributed in several hundred years?




That's some funny shit...I actually laughed. :thumbup:


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Zahid]
    #3168955 - 09/23/04 07:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What have people with your agnostic/atheist beliefs have done?




answer the question pray boy, why are you denying the topic? If you want to know the answer to that question, feel free to start your own thread like trendle did.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Zahid]
    #3168956 - 09/23/04 07:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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So, only Muslims get the honor of being generalized?




well if you can name another culture that hasn't contributed, feel free to add your own, to date we've only come up with one culture, that would be the muslims.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: retread]
    #3168960 - 09/23/04 07:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Muslim women contributed oily, camel-feces reeking ladies to society, does that count




to be fair there are a lot of hot looking muslim/arabs, there are plenty that I live around that i'd hit in a second.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society [Re: unbeliever]
    #3168972 - 09/23/04 07:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Not even gonna read this whole thread, but... What has anyone contributed to society.




there's too many to list, i'm not one of these people who falls for the "what is reality" thing. Western culture has contributed quite a bit, for example, your reading this on one of it's contributions.

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Shit people still die left and right for no good reason, still a lot of hate and intolerance all around.




sure there is, this is the reason for my post.

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Hell america is the only industrialised nation that doesn't have national health care, the only industrialised country in the WORLD that doesn't provide basic health care for all it's citizens. That doesn't come off as very civilised.




yet we're the most powerful progressive nation in the world. We're doing something right.

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But whatever, not gonna pick on any one country.




too late.

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The people who discover new medicines and other sciences that improve the quality of life. The problem is there are a lot of layers of people, government and bullshit that usually prevent those benefits from reaching everyone.




WTF are you talking aboot? Cancer research, aids research, and general medicine have reached everyone in the western culture. Those scientist have contributed tons to the world (when I say western culture i'm refering to Europe and the americas)


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3168977 - 09/23/04 07:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Islam discovered algebra




go back and read the first post in this thread, There is no doubt that the arabic people have contributed in the far past, that's why I asked about modern society. We're supposed to be civilized now.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3168993 - 09/23/04 07:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So when you say 'contributions' are you referring to technological advancements? Again, if that is the case, it is due to islam being situated in developing 3rd world nations, not due to the religion. We can extrapolate this from the trend that no 3rd world non-industrialized developing countries really contribute to technological advancements with possible exceptions of contributing native plant species for medicine (which brings up the question, is Madagascar muslim? they contributed the rosy periwinkle flower for lukemia recovery).


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Tao]
    #3168999 - 09/23/04 07:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Again, if that is the case, it is due to islam being situated in developing 3rd world nations, not due to the religion.




Indonesia is not a 3rd world country, neither is Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc.

I'm not too picky on the contributions, anything will do. Have they helped with medicine, positive social change, inventions, cultural influences (minus homocide bombers)


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3169011 - 09/23/04 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I built a few houses and came up with a few ideas about how to do it. I'm petty clever for a slacker.




The Muslims of the world have built more houses and many greater more impressive buildings than one can shake a stick at. I'm sure to do all that they must have had a few ideas how to....

Pretty clever for:

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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: CJay]
    #3169025 - 09/23/04 08:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The Muslims of the world have built more houses and many greater more impressive buildings than one can shake a stick at




really? modern buildings?


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3169026 - 09/23/04 08:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There you go again - obviously lying (consistently and deliberately quoting untruly)is your forte.

Man maybe you should join a debating society and perhaps they can introduce you to the art.

Very poor, very very poor, very very very poor.

Keep on putting words in peoples mouths, false words that are your words, stops you having to consider any alternate realities doesn't it?

Why even ask someone elses opinion? You might as well talk to yourself.


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3169028 - 09/23/04 08:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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yet we're the most powerful progressive nation in the world. We're doing something right.




....the most powerful maybe....or at least the most armed.

The most progressive....not these days bud


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: CJay]
    #3169029 - 09/23/04 08:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Innvertigo, you are the best and I want to hang out with you




thanks, you're not too bad yourself.

(this will continue until you learn readin comprehension)


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3169032 - 09/23/04 08:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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go back and read the first post in this thread, There is no doubt that the arabic people have contributed in the far past, that's why I asked about modern society. We're supposed to be civilized now.




Your question was: What have Muslims contributed to modern society.

I'd say that algebra has been extremely important - modern society's scientists and mathmeticians would be lost without it


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Re: What have muslims or islam contributed to modern society? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3169034 - 09/23/04 08:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That mosque next door to my workplace is pretty modern my man. Double glazed and all.


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