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Offlinejarby
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Stupid Friends
    #2047369 - 10/27/03 02:37 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

This halloween, myself and about 6 friends are gonna be tripping, and 2 of them are first timers, and they're gonna eat 4 grams of VERY potent shrooms (apparently they're like 91% psilocybin, if that's possible - please verify this). They think mushrooms are a way of getting fucked up and seeing shit that isn't there, not realizing their 'mindfuck'. I can't seem to convince them that they're making a mistake. One of them has no idea what psychedellics are about and gets fucked off of pot when it does shit to others. I know he's gonna freak out and call 911 or something stupid and ruin everyone's trip. Anyone else ever trip with huge n00bies and have it ruin your evening? I think I might branch off from all my friends and trip on my own/with a select few of them.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047382 - 10/27/03 02:41 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

they're not 91 percent psilocybin. even 20 mgs of psilocybin is a big dose. you'd be talking around 3500 mgs in 4 grams... nah.

As for those friends, explain to them about SETTING. Halloween night isn't the best time for a newbie to go crazy with the dosage.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047384 - 10/27/03 02:42 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Well 90% is water (Cubensis). So ummmmm no. That's a ludicrous statement.

It sounds like a good idea to advise them not to consume them if that's the way they will act from your intuition. Maybe consider taking them on your own or with the select few as you said.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047390 - 10/27/03 02:43 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

There is no such fungi as a shroom that is 91% psilocybin. Quite frankly I'm glad.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047434 - 10/27/03 02:57 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

What's the point in tripping with someone liable to call 911?


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047456 - 10/27/03 03:02 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

sounds like people you do not want to be tripping with....

something tells me they're going to get what's coming to them come halloween. you probably don't want to be there for it.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: ]
    #2047520 - 10/27/03 03:22 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Sort of off topic then, but what approximately is the amount of psilocin and psilocybin (isn't psilocybin just converted to psilocin when it enters the body anyway, or do I have it backwards) per say 1 gram of shrooms? Are we talking like 2%? What else is in shrooms aside from these two chemicals?


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047589 - 10/27/03 03:40 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

you can look it up if you'd like...

www.erowid.org

we're talking about fractions of percentages in most cases.

these two chemicals are what's mostly responsible for the effects. there is also baeocystin and norbaeocystin, but these aren't as important.

mushrooms are mostly just fungal tissue.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047642 - 10/27/03 04:02 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

What would be the point of tripping with these people?

For fun?  I dont think watching out and worrying for these dumb noobs sounds like fun.

Something to do?  Dont you have some friends that know how to trip and that you can relax or have some real fun with?

Just going along with the group?  I think the negatives weigh more than the benefits of having this group together.

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I think I might branch off from all my friends and trip on my own/with a select few of them.
 


Oh I didnt see this.  You already know what to do.  Why you asking? :smile2:

Is this going to be in a house or a public type place?  Both? 


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: OctopusDr]
    #2047657 - 10/27/03 04:09 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Psilocin is the Class A drug. Psilocybin is an ester of psilocin. So naturally the two are classed as the same under the law. It's the Psilocybin which is converted into Psilocin within an hour after ingestion. Psilocin is the higher active chemical of which actually affects the brain.

Psilocybin mimics some neurotransmitters, this mimicing results in Psilocybin molecules fitting in receptors within the brain. Resulting in over-stimulation, eg trips.

LSD Works in quite a similair way.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: OctopusDr]
    #2047658 - 10/27/03 04:09 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Well its halloween, so we'll be roaming the streets.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047664 - 10/27/03 04:12 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

"You only live once."

If you guys are acting crazy, you wont stand out much on Halloween.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047672 - 10/27/03 04:16 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Ehh, more like .91% psilocybin.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: ceephax]
    #2047701 - 10/27/03 04:24 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Tripping with guys like that is great, they'll see themselves and see that they are noobish and maybe become a better person :wink:


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: JAMsper]
    #2047742 - 10/27/03 05:08 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

yeah that's what i'm kind of hoping... i know its evil, but they won't listen to me and i actually look forward to them freaking out. anyway i'm not gonna spend too much time with them.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2047969 - 10/27/03 06:25 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I say if you want to watch them freak out. Then dont dose at the same time as them so if anything goes bad you can ditch them with no worries...you never know when they would do something stupid. Thats what I would do but its up to you do what you want.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2048293 - 10/27/03 09:06 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I say trip with 3 friends instead. Big groups can get scary. Also n00bs can freak out big time.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2048671 - 10/27/03 10:48 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

if they die or get hurt, welcome to jail, be careful when giving people drugs


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: ZippoZ]
    #2051369 - 10/28/03 08:45 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Hows this, tell them to eat less and wait till the trip kicks in then deside if they wanna do more?


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: DailyPot]
    #2051405 - 10/28/03 08:55 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

stupid friends= gurls?
if so, better be a sitter or get one. otherwise, get away from people, go to the mountains or something. then they can howl at the moon, and bug their little brains out.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: Suby]
    #2051528 - 10/28/03 09:33 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I know the same type of people. They're the types of kids who'll act drunk when everybody else is drunk just to fit in. In general, I don't like kids like that very much.

If it's Halloween I'd suggest letting them do whatever the hell they want. Just don't let them ruin the trip for you. In my experience there are certain friends of mine that I love to trip with. For some reason everything just seems to click when we're together. If you have some friends like that then hang out with them and ditch the nOObs. But no matter what, have fun.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: DailyPot]
    #2051997 - 10/28/03 11:36 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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Hows this, tell them to eat less and wait till the trip kicks in then deside if they wanna do more?




Already told them they're crazy and don't know what they're getting themselves into, but I know it won't affect them. I know asking them to do this would be hardly any different

And they're guys... They'll be chicks there but non of them tripping (gonna be annoying probably).

The problem is most of my friends don't treat mushrooms as I do, and will probably want to do something stupid like go to a party. I also have a much lower resistance to them so will be much more tripped out than them with an eighth (haven't done this much before). I only weight 140 pounds. I think I may lower my dose just so I can have some witts about me and not have to worry about my friends killing themselves.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: jarby]
    #2052952 - 10/29/03 06:21 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Avoid annoying people and people that wont be able to handle shrooms.


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: ]
    #2092969 - 11/11/03 04:50 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

So how did it go?


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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: DailyPot]
    #2102242 - 11/13/03 05:08 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Girls can ruin a trip... maybe something about sexual tension. Plus anyone who is sober can drastically influence your trip. Their brain is moving in totally different wavelengths.

And yes, the mountains are the place to be. Run, Jump, and definitely Howl. I always pick a night with lots of stars. Or a night with some sort of significance i.e. Harvest moon, equinox, aurora borealis, meteor showers. Small insignificances can be significant.

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Re: Stupid Friends [Re: DailyPot]
    #2104890 - 11/14/03 05:13 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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So how did it go?




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